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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert It's because your single processor is hyperthread-enabled and the system shows this as 2 CPU's.
No kidding? I did not know that.
Cool...learned something new today!
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert It's because your single processor is hyperthread-enabled and the system shows this as 2 CPU's.
No kidding? I did not know that.
Cool...learned something new today!
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Khali Nephtys
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Khali Nephtys on 25/08/2004 20:45:42 The VPU recovery issues with ATI cards is known about. More information is here
I had to disable fast write and agp acceleration to get it to work on mine, it looks like ATI are going to fix this in the next driver update.
Khabs am pehkt...........seize the stars.
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Khali Nephtys
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Khali Nephtys on 25/08/2004 20:45:42 The VPU recovery issues with ATI cards is known about. More information is here
I had to disable fast write and agp acceleration to get it to work on mine, it looks like ATI are going to fix this in the next driver update.
Khabs am pehkt...........seize the stars.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:55:00 -
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AGP Fast Write provides NO performance benefits to ATI graphics cards while drastically reducing stability. So turn it OFF.
And...try the Omega drivers: http://www.omegadrivers.net
Just make sure you uninstall the ATI control panel before you install the omegas and turn your anti-virus off during the driver install. (they're good ideas even when you're switching between different ATI driver versions...)
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.08.25 20:55:00 -
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AGP Fast Write provides NO performance benefits to ATI graphics cards while drastically reducing stability. So turn it OFF.
And...try the Omega drivers: http://www.omegadrivers.net
Just make sure you uninstall the ATI control panel before you install the omegas and turn your anti-virus off during the driver install. (they're good ideas even when you're switching between different ATI driver versions...)
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell AGP Fast Write provides NO performance benefits to ATI graphics cards while drastically reducing stability. So turn it OFF.
Really? Do you have more info on this?
Fast Write allows the system to write directly to the video card bypassing writing the instruction to system memory first. This should result in a speed increase irrespective of the video card you use (assuming it supports Fast Write). The increase is reported to be 1-5% so you may or may not notice a difference (but every little bit helps).
That said Fast Write will seriously destabilize a system if the video card does not support it. This feature is also tied closely to the motherboard and its BIOS so while your video card may support the feature if your mobo and/or BIOS arenĘt up for it you may experience real problems.
I have a Radeon 9800 XT with Fast Write turned on and I have zero trouble with it.
All of that said if you are experience crashes/lockups related to the video card (as is the case here) it is a good idea to turn it off along with all other speed boosting features and see if you get stability. Once the system is stable go back and start turning things on one at a time and see what happens then back off the step that destabilizes your system and you should be set.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.08.25 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell AGP Fast Write provides NO performance benefits to ATI graphics cards while drastically reducing stability. So turn it OFF.
Really? Do you have more info on this?
Fast Write allows the system to write directly to the video card bypassing writing the instruction to system memory first. This should result in a speed increase irrespective of the video card you use (assuming it supports Fast Write). The increase is reported to be 1-5% so you may or may not notice a difference (but every little bit helps).
That said Fast Write will seriously destabilize a system if the video card does not support it. This feature is also tied closely to the motherboard and its BIOS so while your video card may support the feature if your mobo and/or BIOS arenĘt up for it you may experience real problems.
I have a Radeon 9800 XT with Fast Write turned on and I have zero trouble with it.
All of that said if you are experience crashes/lockups related to the video card (as is the case here) it is a good idea to turn it off along with all other speed boosting features and see if you get stability. Once the system is stable go back and start turning things on one at a time and see what happens then back off the step that destabilizes your system and you should be set.
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2004.08.26 02:21:00 -
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www.rage3d.com go there and ask if none of these suggestions fix your problem. Great site with thousands of users ready to help you with any problem you might have with the card.
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I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2004.08.26 02:21:00 -
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www.rage3d.com go there and ask if none of these suggestions fix your problem. Great site with thousands of users ready to help you with any problem you might have with the card.
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I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 25/08/2004 20:45:29 It's because your single processor is hyperthread-enabled and the system shows this as 2 CPU's.
Hyperthreading: A single CPU that pretends to be two independent CPUS to the software. It can thus execute two program threads simulaneously. This improves performance when many programs are running at once. You might get 110% to 130% of a regular single CPU. Don't expect it to perform like a true dual pair, though.
I have no idea what this does for comatability with games.
thank God!
i do have HT ready on CPU and Mobo. thx m8 ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 25/08/2004 20:45:29 It's because your single processor is hyperthread-enabled and the system shows this as 2 CPU's.
Hyperthreading: A single CPU that pretends to be two independent CPUS to the software. It can thus execute two program threads simulaneously. This improves performance when many programs are running at once. You might get 110% to 130% of a regular single CPU. Don't expect it to perform like a true dual pair, though.
I have no idea what this does for comatability with games.
thank God!
i do have HT ready on CPU and Mobo. thx m8 ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Khali Nephtys Edited by: Khali Nephtys on 25/08/2004 20:45:42 The VPU recovery issues with ATI cards is known about. More information is here
I had to disable fast write and agp acceleration to get it to work on mine, it looks like ATI are going to fix this in the next driver update.
well i sure hope its soon
and i'll try disableing fast write and agp acceleration. thx luv ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Khali Nephtys Edited by: Khali Nephtys on 25/08/2004 20:45:42 The VPU recovery issues with ATI cards is known about. More information is here
I had to disable fast write and agp acceleration to get it to work on mine, it looks like ATI are going to fix this in the next driver update.
well i sure hope its soon
and i'll try disableing fast write and agp acceleration. thx luv ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell AGP Fast Write provides NO performance benefits to ATI graphics cards while drastically reducing stability. So turn it OFF.
And...try the Omega drivers: http://www.omegadrivers.net
Just make sure you uninstall the ATI control panel before you install the omegas and turn your anti-virus off during the driver install. (they're good ideas even when you're switching between different ATI driver versions...)
hmmm? i've heard alot of bad things about the Omega drivers i think i'll stick with the ATI drivers just to be safe. thx anyways. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell AGP Fast Write provides NO performance benefits to ATI graphics cards while drastically reducing stability. So turn it OFF.
And...try the Omega drivers: http://www.omegadrivers.net
Just make sure you uninstall the ATI control panel before you install the omegas and turn your anti-virus off during the driver install. (they're good ideas even when you're switching between different ATI driver versions...)
hmmm? i've heard alot of bad things about the Omega drivers i think i'll stick with the ATI drivers just to be safe. thx anyways. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:24:00 -
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oh and special thanks to Mon you've a great help m8 you really seem to know your shi--stuff
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:24:00 -
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oh and special thanks to Mon you've a great help m8 you really seem to know your shi--stuff
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:39:00 -
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this probably isn't relevant but i would get an athlon 64 in there instead of that P4, just because 64bit is the future and you will get extra performance :D
(also i hate intel and love AMD but whatever) ----------------
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:39:00 -
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this probably isn't relevant but i would get an athlon 64 in there instead of that P4, just because 64bit is the future and you will get extra performance :D
(also i hate intel and love AMD but whatever) ----------------
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OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.28 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS www.rage3d.com go there and ask if none of these suggestions fix your problem. Great site with thousands of users ready to help you with any problem you might have with the card.
i did check out this site and there is ALOT! of good info but i'm affraid nothing is working i suggest to everyone if your planning on buying the ATI X800? DON'T ITS CRAP! i can't even play StarCraft: Brood Wars without my system crashing
Also the only suggestion the Tech on rage3d.com could give me was to try changeing my AGP speed to 4x instead of 8x, of course this didn't work either so i'm only left with one choice, send my x800 back and get the brand i've always trusted "NVIDIA" thanks for all your help people, greatly appreciated. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
OmegaTron
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Posted - 2004.08.28 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: ErrorS www.rage3d.com go there and ask if none of these suggestions fix your problem. Great site with thousands of users ready to help you with any problem you might have with the card.
i did check out this site and there is ALOT! of good info but i'm affraid nothing is working i suggest to everyone if your planning on buying the ATI X800? DON'T ITS CRAP! i can't even play StarCraft: Brood Wars without my system crashing
Also the only suggestion the Tech on rage3d.com could give me was to try changeing my AGP speed to 4x instead of 8x, of course this didn't work either so i'm only left with one choice, send my x800 back and get the brand i've always trusted "NVIDIA" thanks for all your help people, greatly appreciated. ------------------------------------------------ A Plague is comming.... |
Karial
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Posted - 2004.08.28 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Karial on 28/08/2004 22:52:51 Edited by: Karial on 28/08/2004 22:48:52 X800 works fine with this game, mine runs wonderfully. I also play the other games you mentioned without any issues.
Excellent suggestions so far on how to troubleshoot this problem. I'd suggest running a test on your system memory to make sure it is not just a bad stick of RAM causing your issues. All of the problems you mentioned are very indicative of this problem. http://www.memtest.org/download/1.20/memtest86+-1.20.floppy.zip
Also, P4's have a quad-pumped fsb (200*4=800) so 200 is correct (unless you are overclocking), saw that question somewhere in there.
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Karial
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Posted - 2004.08.28 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Karial on 28/08/2004 22:52:51 Edited by: Karial on 28/08/2004 22:48:52 X800 works fine with this game, mine runs wonderfully. I also play the other games you mentioned without any issues.
Excellent suggestions so far on how to troubleshoot this problem. I'd suggest running a test on your system memory to make sure it is not just a bad stick of RAM causing your issues. All of the problems you mentioned are very indicative of this problem. http://www.memtest.org/download/1.20/memtest86+-1.20.floppy.zip
Also, P4's have a quad-pumped fsb (200*4=800) so 200 is correct (unless you are overclocking), saw that question somewhere in there.
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Thomdril Merrilin
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Posted - 2004.08.29 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Thomdril Merrilin on 29/08/2004 00:34:37 I had a similar problem with my 9800 XT 256mb when it first came out...
It was all down to dodgey RAM.
Make sure it aint faulty/incorrect speed etc.
I had a dodgey stick in mine and I tried EVERYTHING to fix it, but it was all down to a dodgey ram stick...
Note. Just read the above post. CHECK THE RAM.
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Thomdril Merrilin
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Posted - 2004.08.29 00:32:00 -
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Edited by: Thomdril Merrilin on 29/08/2004 00:34:37 I had a similar problem with my 9800 XT 256mb when it first came out...
It was all down to dodgey RAM.
Make sure it aint faulty/incorrect speed etc.
I had a dodgey stick in mine and I tried EVERYTHING to fix it, but it was all down to a dodgey ram stick...
Note. Just read the above post. CHECK THE RAM.
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Sinjin Smythe
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Posted - 2004.08.29 02:13:00 -
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Quote: i'm only left with one choice, send my x800 back and get the brand i've always trusted "NVIDIA"
Amen! These days nvidia and ATI are tied in the performance race pretty much, but you can ALWAYS count on nvidia for stability and compatibility. Go with 6800GT you wont regret it! (unless of course the problem is heat, then you will be worse off, but it sounds like it isnt)
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Sinjin Smythe
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Posted - 2004.08.29 02:13:00 -
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Quote: i'm only left with one choice, send my x800 back and get the brand i've always trusted "NVIDIA"
Amen! These days nvidia and ATI are tied in the performance race pretty much, but you can ALWAYS count on nvidia for stability and compatibility. Go with 6800GT you wont regret it! (unless of course the problem is heat, then you will be worse off, but it sounds like it isnt)
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Matthew Johnson
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Posted - 2004.08.30 14:45:00 -
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Got a Saphire X800 Pro running nicely. Had three or four hard-reboots in the first week, but the went away. I think I had some surges or spices in my power supply at home. Oh....the "Watt" number for you power supply only shows its overall power. But you system sucks power from different lines, like the 5 Volt line, or the 12 Volt line. One way to determine if your power supply is strong enough is to get a oscilloscope from a friend and check the quality of the powerline. But such equipment is not very common. +++ Trade...good for you, good for me +++ |
Matthew Johnson
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Posted - 2004.08.30 14:45:00 -
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Got a Saphire X800 Pro running nicely. Had three or four hard-reboots in the first week, but the went away. I think I had some surges or spices in my power supply at home. Oh....the "Watt" number for you power supply only shows its overall power. But you system sucks power from different lines, like the 5 Volt line, or the 12 Volt line. One way to determine if your power supply is strong enough is to get a oscilloscope from a friend and check the quality of the powerline. But such equipment is not very common. +++ Trade...good for you, good for me +++ |
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