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Vishere Rykane
Minmatar Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.10 15:49:00 -
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I'm not exactly sure which direction I need to take this character (what skills I need to train). I can fly a Hulk, and can use T2 mining / combat drones. She also has enough shield skills to survive one disco suicide BS for those high sec pirates with itchy trigger fingers.
But now I'm kind of lost, I'm having trouble trying to figure out what skills I need for the broad goals I've got laid out for this character.
I want this toon to be able to:
Build Amarrian ships, atleast up to battleships Have some basic trade skills. Be able to reprocess and refine perfectly. Be a very effective miner.
What are some skills that maybe I've missed to acheive this, I have 1 mil SP in industry and I feel like i'm at a dead end for high sec mining which seems odd considering 1 mil SP feels really low.
As for the shipbuilding part, I'm not even sure where to start or what skills I need to be looking at. I've been looking through the guides posted but I still feel like I must be missing something.
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Lukriss
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Posted - 2009.04.10 15:58:00 -
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Perhaps if you posted your skilltree it would be easier to help you.
But you're definitely missing something in industry. - Production Efficiency V? (More or less required if you're serious about manufacturing) - Refinery Efficiency V? (IV can do for a start, but you'll want to get it to V for the Scrapmetal Processing) - <ore> Processing IV? (III can do for a start for T1 Crystals, but you'll want to get T2, start getting T1 crystals for the all ores you mine, then get T2)
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Vishere Rykane
Minmatar Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.10 16:05:00 -
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Edited by: Vishere Rykane on 10/04/2009 16:05:31 API Key: 27C84B67E04748CF92F22D1EF7DA2EC03EB518D0B8CC4DDDA97EE585320CE196
Go to town. ...
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Nida Darksun
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Posted - 2009.04.10 18:17:00 -
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For High sec mining, I would suggest you have all your high sec ores at level V for perfect refine.
I currently have about 6.5 mil in Industry and there are still many things i want to train. Ice processing for 1 working on that.
Building is anothing animal in itself. Capital building to Level 4 but still need alot of skills to build the T2 stuff.
Figure out what you would like to do, what interests you and train for it.
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Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
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Posted - 2009.04.10 18:46:00 -
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You only need the ore skills to 4 for T2 crystals and that combined refinery efficiency to 2 or 3 to get perfect refine at your typical high sec station, not including standings with the owner to reduce taxes. I wouldn't waste any time on level 5 ore skills.
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Tyran Scholus
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Posted - 2009.04.10 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Nida Darksun For High sec mining, I would suggest you have all your high sec ores at level V for perfect refine.
I don't think that's necessary, I have Refinery Efficiency 5 and most of my high-sec ores just to 3, but in a station with 50% base refine I come up with 0 waste.
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ingenting
20th Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.11 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: ingenting on 11/04/2009 09:28:31
Originally by: Vishere Rykane API Key: 27C84B67E04748CF92F22D1EF7DA2EC03EB518D0B8CC4DDDA97EE585320CE196
useless without user id number.
try http://ineve.net if u dont wanna give out ur api _________________ - "Welcome to EVE, remember to insu *BAAOOM*... Told you, newb."
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Sanguis Sanies
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.11 16:09:00 -
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Vishere Rykane
Minmatar Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.16 17:45:00 -
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Updated with Character skill info. Sorry for the delay, things came up. ...
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Cyonix Maur
Caldari Durt Industries Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.16 19:06:00 -
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Edited by: Cyonix Maur on 16/04/2009 19:06:09 if u want good mining/reprocessing skills i sudjest u start off with
Veldspar Processing V Scordite Processing V Pyroxeres Processing V Omber Processing V Kernite Processing V Plagioclase Processing V Ice Harvesting V <- if your into ice mining
Mining Upgrades iv Refinery Efficiency V
also work on capacitor skills to perma run your shield with out worries
Energy Management V Energy Systems Operation V Engineering V
also this is a must Exhumers V
this will make u a good very Hulk pilot...... well it will help you any how ;D
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GyokZoli
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.17 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Vishere Rykane Edited by: Vishere Rykane on 16/04/2009 17:43:22 Edited by: Vishere Rykane on 16/04/2009 17:42:48 I'm not exactly sure which direction I need to take this character (what skills I need to train). I can fly a Hulk, and can use T2 mining / combat drones. She also has enough shield skills to survive one disco suicide BS for those high sec pirates with itchy trigger fingers.
But now I'm kind of lost, I'm having trouble trying to figure out what skills I need for the broad goals I've got laid out for this character.
I want this toon to be able to:
Build Amarrian ships, atleast up to battleships Have some basic trade skills. Be able to reprocess and refine perfectly. Be a very effective miner.
What are some skills that maybe I've missed to acheive this, I have 1 mil SP in industry and I feel like i'm at a dead end for high sec mining which seems odd considering 1 mil SP feels really low.
As for the shipbuilding part, I'm not even sure where to start or what skills I need to be looking at. I've been looking through the guides posted but I still feel like I must be missing something.
Character Info: Linkage
For perfect loot refine, you need Scrapmetal Processing 2 which needs: Refining 5, Refinery Efficiency 5 and Metallurgy 5
For perfect ore refine you just need the Ore Processing skills to level 2 (beside Refining 5, and yeah you are in hisec)
For T1 production you just need Production Efficiency 5 (and ofcourse researched BPO/BPCs). If you want to research the BPOs yourself then you need a few other skills and Laboratory access (having a POS is the easiest way).
For T2 invention/production you need a hell of a skillset (look for the guides).
For the trading: just look into the Trade category in your Charsheet, that's very simple and straightforward. Also for trading you need RL skill much more than ingame skills.
And about mining, there is not much to say. Train Mining 5, Exhumers 5, Mining Upgrades 5, Astrogeology 5 (but already trained), Mining Drones 5, Mining Foreman 5 if you have an alt (I think this is pretty much all).
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Iosue
Black Sky Hipsters
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Posted - 2009.04.17 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cyonix Maur
Veldspar Processing V Scordite Processing V Pyroxeres Processing V Omber Processing V Kernite Processing V Plagioclase Processing V
Having these skills to V is not necessary for a perfect refine or T2 mining crystals. I would suggest leaving all these at IV and use the time on more productive skills.
Also, don't forget that to get a truly perfect refine, you'll need standing with the NPC corp that owns the station. This will require lots of missions (need to get to 6.67 standings iirc). That being said, you might want to spend a little time on social skills like Social or Connections.
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Vishere Rykane
Minmatar Midnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.17 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Iosue
Originally by: Cyonix Maur
Veldspar Processing V Scordite Processing V Pyroxeres Processing V Omber Processing V Kernite Processing V Plagioclase Processing V
Having these skills to V is not necessary for a perfect refine or T2 mining crystals. I would suggest leaving all these at IV and use the time on more productive skills.
Also, don't forget that to get a truly perfect refine, you'll need standing with the NPC corp that owns the station. This will require lots of missions (need to get to 6.67 standings iirc). That being said, you might want to spend a little time on social skills like Social or Connections.
I was begining to wonder about the all V processing skills, my past info on it only said I need 4. As for standing; guess i need to find a way to raise it to 6.67 quickly. This toon can barely fly...well she actually cant even fly a rifter.
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Ryusoath Orillian
Minmatar INDUSTIENCE
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Posted - 2009.04.17 23:28:00 -
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exhumer V ? are you mental. thats only any good when ice mining. maybe if you have nothing else to train for... not worth it for ore mining in a hulk, get in a gang and get the gang bonuses
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.04.18 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Iosue
Originally by: Cyonix Maur
Veldspar Processing V Scordite Processing V Pyroxeres Processing V Omber Processing V Kernite Processing V Plagioclase Processing V
Having these skills to V is not necessary for a perfect refine or T2 mining crystals. I would suggest leaving all these at IV and use the time on more productive skills.
Not necessary unless you're refining at a 0.0 outpost, but in that case you're probably going to be mining better things, and would benefit more from Bistot/Ark/Crokite/Mercoxit/Gneiss skills etc.
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Governor LePetomane
Rock Ridge Brokerage Solutions
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Posted - 2009.04.18 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Vishere Rykane As for standing; guess i need to find a way to raise it to 6.67 quickly. This toon can barely fly...well she actually cant even fly a rifter.
The refining grind is a pain, but after you do some story lines and get faction standing it goes a little quicker. You can get there on L3 missions pretty easily, so that's a plus.
My best advice on that is to just swallow your pride and train into a passive drake. You've already got T2 drones and TSM IV for T2 hardeners, so the rest of the training shouldn't take long:
Shield Upgrades IV (Lg Shield Extender II, Shield Recharger II) Energy Grid Upgrades IV (Shield Power Relay II, Power Diagnostic System II) Caldari Cruiser III Battlecruisers IV (III will work, but IV is better obviously) Social IV Connections IV
Missile skills -- don't have to be that good honestly, here's a good short train:
Weapon Upgrades IV (BCS II) Missile Launcher Operation III Heavy Missiles III Missile Projection III Missile Bombardment III Rapid Launch III Target Navigation Prediction III Optional: Missile Launcher Rigging III (mechanic skill) because rigs can help buy you past crappy skills and you won't need shield rigs for L3 missions unless you're doing a lot of Blood Raiders.
Refinery Efficiency III has some crazy prerequisites, doesn't it? Always hated that.
I've heard it said, BTW, that courier missions will actually get you the standing faster than kill missions. Those things make me want to pull my toenails out (in game) though, so I can't confirm or deny that. Plus kill missions pay better. YMMV as always.
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