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Dabnus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:06:00 -
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The stations of uncensored expression are closing down; the lights are going out; but there is still time for those to whom freedom and honour mean something, to consult together.
Capsuleers have, it seems to me, formed a true judgment upon the disaster which has befallen the Empire. They realise the far-reaching consequences of the abandonment and ruin of Jita. If in February, March or April, High Sec, Low Sec, South and West had jointly declared that they would act together upon Goonswarm if Herr Mittani committed an act of unprovoked aggression against this system, I hold that the Dictator would have been confronted with such a formidable array that he would have been deterred from his purpose.
But all these backward speculations belong to history. It is no good using hard words among friends about the past, and reproaching one another for what cannot be recalled. It is the future, not the past, that demands our earnest and anxious thought. We must recognize that the democratic, liberal and peaceful forces have everywhere sustained a defeat which leaves them weaker, morally and physically, to cope with dangers which have vastly grown. But the cause of freedom has in it a recuperative power and virtue which can draw from misfortune new hope and new strength. If ever there was a time when men and women who cherish the ideals of the founders should take earnest counsel with one another, that time is now.
All the universe wishes for prosperity. Have we gained it by the sacrifice of Jita? It has been destroyed and devoured. It is now being digested. The question which is of interest to a lot of ordinary capsuleers, common capsuleers, is whether this destruction of Jita will bring upon the world a blessing or a curse.
Shall we be able to say to ourselves: "Well, that's out of the way, anyhow. Now let's get on with our regular daily life." But are these hopes well founded or are we merely making the best of what we had not the force and virtue to stop? That is the question that the peoples in all their space must ask themselves today. Is this the end, or is there more to come?
To this has been added the cult of war. Children are to be taught in their earliest schooling the delights and profits of conquest and aggression. A whole mighty community has been drawn painfully, by severe privations, into a warlike frame. They are held in this condition by a party organisation, who derive all kinds of profits, good and bad, from the upkeep of the regime. The Goonswarm tolerate no opinion but their own. They feed on hatred. They must seek, from time to time, and always at shorter intervals, a new target, a new prize, a new victim. The Dictator, in all his pride, is held in the grip of his Party machine. He can go forward; he cannot go back. He must blood his hounds and show them sport, or else be devoured by them. All-strong without, he is all-weak within.
No one must, however, underrate the power and efficiency of a totalitarian state. Where the whole population of a great bro pact, amiable capsuleers are gripped by the neck and by the hair by Goonswarm tyranny - for they are the same things spelt in different ways - the rulers for the time being can exercise a power for the purposes of war and external domination before which the ordinary free societies are at a grievous practical disadvantage. We have to recognise this.
The culminating question to which I have been leading is whether the universe should meet this menace by submission or by resistance. Let us see, then, whether the means of resistance remain to us today. We have sustained an immense disaster. Empire lies at this moment abashed and distracted before the triumphant assertions of dictatorial power.
Far away, happily protected by forum anonymity, you, the capsuleers of New Eden are the spectators, and I may add the increasingly involved spectators of these tragedies and crimes. Will you wait until freedom and independence have succumbed, and then take up the cause when it is three-quarters ruined, yourselves alone?
"No."
There, in one single word, is the resolve which the forces of freedom and progress, of tolerance and good will, should take. It is not in the power of one alliance, however formidably armed, still less is it in the power of a small group of men, violent, ruthless men, who have always to cast their eyes back over their shoulders, to cramp and fetter the forward march of human destiny. The preponderant universal forces are upon our side; they have but to be combined to be obeyed. We must arm. Empire must arm. Low-Sec must arm, Null-Sec must arm. If, through an earnest desire for peace, we have placed ourselves at a disadvantage, we must make up for it by redoubled exertions, and, if necessary, by fortitude in suffering.
The people will stand erect, and will face whatever may be coming.
Dictatorship - the fetish worship of one man - is a passing phase. A state of society where men may not speak their minds; such a state of society cannot long endure if brought into contact with the healthy outside world. The light of civilised progress with its tolerances and co-operation, with its dignities and joys, has often in the past been blotted out. But I hold the belief that we have now at last got far enough ahead of barbarism to control it, and to avert it, if only we realise what is afoot and make up our minds in time. We shall do it in the end. But how much harder our toil for every day's delay!
Is this a call to war? Does anyone pretend that preparation for resistance to aggression is unleashing war? I declare it to be the sole guarantee of peace. We need the swift gathering of forces to confront not only military but moral aggression; the resolute and sober acceptance of their duty by all the corporations, great and small.
WC
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1303
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:08:00 -
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Sweet, now I get to practice bombing runs!
Also, this. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
RDevz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:13:00 -
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tl;dr
Does this mean I finally get to use Starbase Defense Management for something other than shooting TEST?
~10,058~ |
Torneach
Hedion University Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:13:00 -
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Sure, sounds good.
Now, how is this going to be organized? |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
293
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:41:00 -
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Pleeeaaase do this. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
161
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:43:00 -
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Much too TL:DR, but the way I view it, is people really don't want goons out. One day some day, maybe the big alliances will get bored, say lets all go evict goons for a while, then implode after that gets done. |
Bane Necran
445
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:45:00 -
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Was only about 40 people there when i visited not long ago.
Hardly worth the effort. 0.0 is dead. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
907
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:47:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Was only about 40 people there when i visited not long ago.
Hardly worth the effort. 0.0 is dead. Confirming 0.0 is dead because people didn't cluster into one system when you happened to be there. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
293
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:50:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Was only about 40 people there when i visited not long ago.
Hardly worth the effort. 0.0 is dead.
When we're at home we tend to take all of our clothes off and spread ourselves all over the couch like any good fat man should.
(Neither of my two 0.0 duders are in VFK, and I base all of my isk generating far far away from the gangs that wander through there) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
554
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:51:00 -
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Come into VFK. Take your biggest and best ships. Titans, machs, tengus etc etc, bring them all in. Don't mind the people setting up bubble camps ~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Bane Necran
445
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:52:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Confirming 0.0 is dead because people didn't cluster into one system when you happened to be there.
It's the main hub for an alliance of thousands. Surrounded by completely empty systems, and systems with one person in them. It doesn't get more dead that that.
And i wasn't just there the one day. 40 would be the rough average from two samples. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
554
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:53:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Confirming 0.0 is dead because people didn't cluster into one system when you happened to be there. It's the main hub for an alliance of thousands. Surrounded by completely empty systems, and systems with one person in them. It doesn't get more dead that that. And i wasn't just there the one day. 40 would be the rough average from two samples. Guess it'll be an easy victory then. Better take all your faction ships for the victory screenshot. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
907
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:53:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:two samples. One sample is happenstance. Two is science. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Citamarret
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.05.04 00:56:00 -
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Just a word of warning - we're pretty heavily fortified in VFK so be sure to bring your most expensive ships. Better fit them with the good stuff, too. Sure would be embarrassing to show up unprepared. |
Nephilius
Knights of Athena Star Council
390
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:00:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:Much too TL:DR, but the way I view it, is people really don't want goons out. One day some day, maybe the big alliances will get bored, say lets all go evict goons for a while, then implode after that gets done.
And that is what Eve should be all about. People talk about burning, and chaos, and all that crap, but the truth is, New Eden is pretty damn stable.
And that's a shame. To call me a Carebear is a misnomer...while it is true that I am hairy like a bear (or two russian women), I really don't care.-á Like, at all.-á Call me an Apathybear.-á Just don't call if you need assistance. |
Bane Necran
446
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:00:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Bane Necran wrote:two samples. One sample is happenstance. Two is science.
I think it was 43 when i got there, and something like 36 when i logged in a day later. 40 is a generous average. And both those were during 'prime time'.
I've visited other central hubs for 0.0 alliances and those are actually higher numbers. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
907
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:04:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Bane Necran wrote:two samples. One sample is happenstance. Two is science. I think it was 43 when i got there, and something like 36 when i logged in a day later. 40 is a generous average. And both those were during 'prime time'. I've visited other central hubs for 0.0 alliances and those are actually higher numbers. Confirming 0.0 is dead because its residents don't sit in "hubs" and spin their ships. I heard Catch is dead because there are only 20 people in HED-GP. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Citamarret
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:08:00 -
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Goons don't actually play Eve Online.
I'm not really sure how we own any space. |
Bane Necran
446
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:11:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Confirming 0.0 is dead because its residents don't sit in "hubs" and spin their ships. I heard Catch is dead because there are only 20 people in HED-GP.
I already mentioned all the empty systems i passed through getting there, and all the systems with just one person in them.
You know as well as me that's very common in 0.0, and not an isolated event. In the past i've lived in what used to be the Northern Coalition's space, and also the drone regions when the Russians held it. It's always the same damn thing. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
356
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:17:00 -
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Please do this. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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Danel Tosh
EVE Protection Agency Intrepid Crossing
18
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:27:00 -
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Let The goons Retreat to VFK, While we burn down all thier remaining systems. attack them on all fronts so their resources are thinned. this way we could divide them, physicaly, economicaly, and mentally.
Dont get me wrong Im all up for burning VFK, but as it stands right know I think we should use subterfuge and misdirection to obliterate our foe.
-essencially we shouldnt attack were our enemy is strongest but rather where our enemy is the weakest. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
357
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:29:00 -
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Come at me bro. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
554
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:34:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Come at me bro. If only they would, in expensive T2 ships that needs lots of tech~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Lili Lu
219
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:36:00 -
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Dabnus wrote:Something . . . Something . . . More of something, rather long, not reading, still scanning for some statment that explains all this . . . "The people will stand erect, and will face whatever may be coming."
Ok, wtf is that,
wait look at that face! a FACE THAT WILL LAUNCH A THOUSAND SHIPS
GOOD HEAVENS MISS DABNUS YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL @_@
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1311
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:38:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Was only about 40 people there when i visited not long ago.
Hardly worth the effort. 0.0 is dead.
Hey, remember last time someone thought a goon system was dead and tried to launch an attack on the cyno jammer during off-hours?
SPOILER TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
554
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:41:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Was only about 40 people there when i visited not long ago.
Hardly worth the effort. 0.0 is dead. Hey, remember last time someone thought a goon system was dead and tried to launch an attack on the cyno jammer during off-hours? SPOILER Aww, you spoiled it.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Bane Necran
446
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:42:00 -
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Currently, 4 people are in VFK, according to the game map. Weekdays are abysmal it would seem.
Party going on in 2R-CRW, though, a whole 13 pilots. Camp that gate, fellows. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1311
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:43:00 -
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Bane Necran wrote:Currently, 4 people are in VFK, according to the game map. Weekdays are abysmal it would seem.
Party going on in 2R-CRW, though, a whole 13 pilots. Camp that gate, fellows.
Game map is goddamn awful. Don't rely on it.
I've seen it list 6VDT as having 30 people when there were 180, and I've seen it list systems with massive battles happening in them as empty.
Logging in to prove this when I should really keep on studying (damnit). TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
555
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:46:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Currently, 4 people are in VFK, according to the game map. Weekdays are abysmal it would seem.
Party going on in 2R-CRW, though, a whole 13 pilots. Camp that gate, fellows. Game map is goddamn awful. Don't rely on it. I've seen it list 6VDT as having 30 people when there were 180, and I've seen it list systems with massive battles happening in them as empty. Logging in to prove this when I should really keep on studying (damnit). 4 people doesn't even make any sense. I was there just now and local was over 1 page. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
358
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Posted - 2012.05.04 01:49:00 -
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If this does anything other than just feed Goons kills, I'll be very surprised. Damn nature, you scary! |
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