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Fad3dlight
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Posted - 2009.04.16 20:06:00 -
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Im fitting out a large domination tower
4 of each ecm (dread guristas variant) 12 domination medium artillery 12 angel small autocannon 4 webbers 4 scramblers
6 advanced labs 2 labs 1 corp hangar array
During war, i can offline the labs and put hardners to make shieldresist 50 percent across the board.
Is that ok? Do i need anything else defense wice? I got 3 alts on different accounts that can use pos guns. Im not trying to make a pos invincible, I just wanna make it suck ass taking out.
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Mealtrom
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Posted - 2009.04.16 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: Mealtrom on 16/04/2009 20:27:27 Fitz has an excellent thread covering various highsec POS fittings but the long and short of it is attacking that would be so ridiculously cost inefficient and time consuming that unless you **** off some big people you've got nothing to worry about. hardeners aren't the kind of thing you want to put on in an attack. To the contrary you want them on when the attack starts so you can turn them off to get more guns up and running for defense. Hardeners just delay the inevitable, guns do something about it. I would not recommend 4 webs/scrams since out of player control you probably won't be able to hold large targets down long enough to pop them and with control you can just point the webs. If you want extras just keep them offlined until you need them.
Oh and one more thing, that is going to be stupidly expensive. Everybody and their dog fits domi medium artillery while nobody rats for it, so the price has gone through the roof. If you feel its worth your money go nuts but be ready to shell out a couple bill for this.
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Fad3dlight
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Posted - 2009.04.16 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mealtrom Edited by: Mealtrom on 16/04/2009 20:27:27 Fitz has an excellent thread covering various highsec POS fittings but the long and short of it is attacking that would be so ridiculously cost inefficient and time consuming that unless you **** off some big people you've got nothing to worry about. hardeners aren't the kind of thing you want to put on in an attack. To the contrary you want them on when the attack starts so you can turn them off to get more guns up and running for defense. Hardeners just delay the inevitable, guns do something about it. I would not recommend 4 webs/scrams since out of player control you probably won't be able to hold large targets down long enough to pop them and with control you can just point the webs. If you want extras just keep them offlined until you need them.
Oh and one more thing, that is going to be stupidly expensive. Everybody and their dog fits domi medium artillery while nobody rats for it, so the price has gone through the roof. If you feel its worth your money go nuts but be ready to shell out a couple bill for this.
Ive already bought it. And it wasnt that expensive. Reason i went for faction fittings was simply more fit friendly.
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Mealtrom
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Posted - 2009.04.16 20:45:00 -
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I don't deny it. I run a medium POS and I absolutely couldn't formulate a half decent fit for it without faction gear. In fact mine is very similar.
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Yurda Dei
Gallente Central Logistics and Insider Trading Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.16 22:32:00 -
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With a high sec POS, as long as your POS managers are online daily, there really isn't a need to online defensive/offensive mods due to Concord protection. Keep in mind that you have 24 hours when the war dec comes out. During that time, you really should online your shield hardeners in case your gunners are not on site when the POS is attacked. As mentioned earlier, an excellent reference for POS defense by Lord Fitz is a must read.
Here is the link.
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Ishikari
Gallente Duct Tape Inc. New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.04.17 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Yurda Dei With a high sec POS, as long as your POS managers are online daily, there really isn't a need to online defensive/offensive mods due to Concord protection.
Concord wont defend your pos
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Dreamwalker
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Posted - 2009.04.17 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ishikari
Originally by: Yurda Dei With a high sec POS, as long as your POS managers are online daily, there really isn't a need to online defensive/offensive mods due to Concord protection.
Concord wont defend your pos
If you quote his whole response you see he is talking about the 24 hour window.
As for the online of defence, I prefer to go with 4 med guns online and 2 shield hardeners online at all time. Then when war dec on-lining the defence and offence and off-lining and storing the labs and factories.
Originally by: CCP Whisper Local chat in known 0.0, low sec and empire space will remain as it is today, in all it's insta-intel giving, afk cloaker panic inducing, jita trade spamming glory.
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Kalpaks II
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Posted - 2009.04.17 05:36:00 -
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Domination staff is a waist of isk Put more standard artillery instead, a lot of them, like 80 artillery 20 auto and 200 ECM, the same isk and .... we couldnÆt figure it out how to take such one down without damaging our own brains
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Fad3dlight
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Posted - 2009.04.17 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kalpaks II Domination staff is a waist of isk Put more standard artillery instead, a lot of them, like 80 artillery 20 auto and 200 ECM, the same isk and .... we couldnÆt figure it out how to take such one down without damaging our own brains
Domination stuff is more fit friendly. If I didnt use Domination all I could fit was 8 labs and 8 medium arties. no small autocannons, no ecm, no webbers, no scramblers. Do you understand why I bought Domination fittings now?
I think you are fairly new to pos fittings
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Kalpaks II
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Posted - 2009.04.17 09:19:00 -
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Edited by: Kalpaks II on 17/04/2009 09:19:22 Coool I am NEW ? :D
When you will be attacked offline your labs and online all 30 guns and eve without POS gunners you will pain in ^^^=&*!ö!
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Fad3dlight
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Posted - 2009.04.17 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kalpaks II Edited by: Kalpaks II on 17/04/2009 09:27:31 Edited by: Kalpaks II on 17/04/2009 09:19:22 Coool I am NEW ? :D
When you will be attacked offline your labs and online all 30 guns and even without POS gunners you will pain in ^^^=&*!ö!
Well, i didnt mean that as a offense. What i meant was simply to fit most guns on the pos i went for domination as they are much friendlier in the fitting section. We do have 3 pos gunners atm, but hoping for more but im not eccactly mass recruiting.
I do hope 24 guns and 16 ecm modules + 4 webs and 4 scramblers will be sufficient, Ive read the fitz fitting thread and I just cant fit more stuff on this pos, its impossible.
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Kalpaks II
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Posted - 2009.04.17 10:02:00 -
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Faction staff only makes POS more attractive for blowing it upà Other guns anchor them and load ammo, when your online guns will be incapacitated put next ones online û such chain makes more nuisance than pos shield itself
Believe me we were there û we incapacitated 10 butteries, then warps in noob and starts onlining one by one again, finally we gave up as they had some 200 ECM for such purpose à
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