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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.04.18 18:16:00 -
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Hi,
Today I fell - for my first time - for a scam in high-sec!! Someone named "Angry Clone" asked for help in hauling his ore. Because I made plans to mine today did I take his call as a good opportunity to make a new friend. He offered 50:50, but when I asked him what ship he was using did he reply that he's getting his Hulk for this. I offered him 25:75 (me:him) to give him a better deal, and since I cannot fly a Hulk. That is fair, is it? He said nothing.
We created a fleet and used a can, and I hauled a first 53k units to the nearest station. He then left and asked me to bring the rest, because he needs to change into his Hulk and so that we could start the mining operation. "Cool, finally some fun in mining!", I thought.
So far it sounded like it is going to be a great day. He asked me to return the rest of the can's content to the station. However, I could not do it because his can had turned yellow. We tried to get it white again, but we both did not know how to do it. Somehow it stayed yellow. We created a new fleet, but it did not change. He touched it again, but still no change, and we both wondered. He asked me to try it anyway, and I thought: oh well ... trust him and see if he is going to use it against me. People do scam in EVE a lot after all ...
And he did. Once I accepted to "steal" from the can, and by pulling the aggression timer, did he uncloak with an alternative char named "Ask Unbeatable" and shot me down. Even though we were in a fleet together did he use his corporation and another char to attack me.
All I lost was an Iteron (insured) with two T2 cargo expanders. Of course, I kept the 53k units of Veldspar. It sure did not look like an accident . Still, there is a loss of about -1mil ISK for me left.
So, this seems to be the latest scam. Just for the fun of it did I place a 5k bounty on him . It would be nice if CCP could fix this can business somehow. It is impossible to make friends when you just cannot trust anyone anymore, and anywhere!! -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while. |
RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.04.18 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound Just for the fun of it did I place a 5k bounty on him .
I like you
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Peac3Keep3r
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Posted - 2009.04.18 18:42:00 -
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So he went through all that trouble just to get a iteron killmail ? That's pretty lame imho.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.04.18 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 18/04/2009 18:50:37
Originally by: Peac3Keep3r So he went through all that trouble just to get a iteron killmail ? That's pretty lame imho.
No, that is not all. When I went back to the station and to get me a rookie ship was he waiting outside and he shot me down again.
Got me another Velator and he tried again, but then I got away. -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while. |
Peac3Keep3r
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Posted - 2009.04.18 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Peac3Keep3r on 18/04/2009 19:03:12
Originally by: Whitehound Edited by: Whitehound on 18/04/2009 18:50:37
Originally by: Peac3Keep3r So he went through all that trouble just to get a iteron killmail ? That's pretty lame imho.
No, that is not all. When I went back to the station and to get me a rookie ship was he waiting outside and he shot me down again.
Got me another Velator and he tried again, but then I got away.
You just prove my point there. He's killing rookie ships , omg he's a pro !
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Kumq uat
Gallente Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.04.18 19:05:00 -
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Next time look to see who the can belongs to before trusting people eh.
On a side note a friend and I pulled off a funny one recently. There is a guy named Orillion who was can flipping a friend of mine who had just started playing. I was in an Ishkur and Nybbas was in an Arazu. We had him mine into a can we created for him and the Arazu sat cloaked off the can. So this guy comes in with apparantly a faction fit Incurses of all things and flips the can on him. The Arazu uncloaks and scrams him and I warp in and nail him down. Very funny and some nice loot.
Then it gets funnier. He came back out in a Myrmidon to try and get revenge. He tries throwing 3 ogre I's at me and also has loaded a bunch of small blasters. Thanks to my Halo implants he cant touch me and the Arazu and I wreck his Myrm and make him cry in local for me to leave him alone. Good times. I orginaly was going to hold his Incurses down and make him type the lyrics to big girls dont cry in local but Nybbas is a bit blood thirsty heh.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.04.18 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 18/04/2009 19:29:21
Originally by: Kumq uat Next time look to see who the can belongs to before trusting people eh.
The can did belong to him and it was white the first time and when I hauled the first load for him! Afterwards one always knows it better, which is why I write about it. But you can never be sure before it happens, or else you end up trying to make everything right and perfect, and to go only by the rules. How is this going to be fun? -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while. |
Kumq uat
Gallente Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.04.18 19:30:00 -
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All he did was have his alt switch out the can then cloak it up. If something changes like a white can to yellow I would scrutinize it very hard.
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Cyrdax
Provehito In Altum
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Posted - 2009.04.18 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kumq uat I orginaly was going to hold his Incurses down and make him type the lyrics to big girls dont cry in local but Nybbas is a bit blood thirsty heh.
THEY DON'T CRYEEYYEEYYYY (they don't cryyy)
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.04.18 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 18/04/2009 20:04:22
Originally by: Kumq uat All he did was have his alt switch out the can then cloak it up. If something changes like a white can to yellow I would scrutinize it very hard.
See, I was being careful and I knew people do scams, which is why I checked. The can did belong to his corp, so why distrust him?
The point is that one never knows what will happen the next time you help someone. Trust does not come from doing everything right.
Frankly, the only ugly thing here really is the anti-stealing mechanism. Those who abuse it know the most about it and how to make it work against others and who know only little of it. It really makes the anti-stealing mechanism counter-effective when its intended purpose is used to kill others. Not that I am blaming CCP for my death. It sure is my fault ... -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while. |
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Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2009.04.18 22:39:00 -
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Hmm, "Ask Unbeatable" rings a bell... not in the positive sense I feel.
Anyway, you need to be set to +10 standing to be allowed to take from some strangers can. If they cant get that done after you explain it, they're out for a kill.
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Mutnin
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Posted - 2009.04.18 23:03:00 -
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That's a hell of a lot of time and effort just to get a single hauler kill..
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Dargaro Inozowa
Gallente 0REC0RE
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Posted - 2009.04.18 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kumq uat So this guy comes in with apparantly a faction fit Incurses of all things and flips the can on him. The Arazu uncloaks and scrams him and I warp in and nail him down.
Originally by: Kumq uat He came back out in a Myrmidon to try and get revenge. Arazu and I wreck his Myrm and make him cry in local for me to leave him alone.
Flipper tears. Just as tasty as carebear tears, but worth just a little bit more.
Also, that's pretty hilarious. Doesn't look like he knew what he was doing in this ships.
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Misina Arlath
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.04.18 23:10:00 -
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This is a bit of a lame way to get a kill yeah.
Probably be more fun (and more often) if he just mined into the can of his alt/corp mate and waited for can flippers to come around.
Optionally, just fly into low-sec and pretend to rat while your friend is sitting around cloaked.
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rubico1337
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Posted - 2009.04.18 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Peac3Keep3r So he went through all that trouble just to get a iteron killmail ? That's pretty lame imho.
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Mik kyo
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.19 00:09:00 -
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lol ask you noob
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Sator deHarak
Caldari Shut Up And Play
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Posted - 2009.04.19 04:23:00 -
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A funny one I pulled today, some dude was suicide ganking, so I dropped a can and put the loot (a caracal) into my can (either he got the good stuff, or it dropped crap) And started offering it in local (I'm in a vaga). of course, hauler comes, takes, gets ganked. I go in local "what have we learned?" and proceed to drop another can with the caracal in it, and fly off. (if there's a caracal in Uedema on the sivala gate, yeah, I'm not around there anymore.)
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.04.19 04:36:00 -
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I fell for a scam once.. This guy told me he was sterile..
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.04.19 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin I fell for a scam once.. This guy told me he was sterile..
I am not quite sure if this belongs into here ... It sure is not funny when some kid tries to make me his wife. It only sucks when these kids cannot find any other challenges in EVE than this.
And yes, only one of the two T2 cargo expanders that I had installed dropped. This should have made it a loss for him, too. It is a little less worth than those 53k of veldspar he left with me. Still, I carry the higher loss.
Originally by: Omara Otawan Anyway, you need to be set to +10 standing to be allowed to take from some strangers can. If they cant get that done after you explain it, they're out for a kill.
Thanks. But, can I trust you on this? -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while. |
Shade Millith
International House of PWNCakes Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.04.19 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Peac3Keep3r So he went through all that trouble just to get a iteron killmail ? That's pretty lame imho.
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Trellish
The Perfect Storm Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2009.04.19 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Trellish on 19/04/2009 17:11:04
Originally by: Kumq uat I orginaly was going to hold his Incurses down and make him type the lyrics to big girls dont cry in local
You sir, Rock!
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Bai ZongTong
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.04.19 18:26:00 -
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so i bought a DCII for 399,999,999isk
was that cheap?
In conclusion, I think you should vote Larkonis Trassler for CSM.
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.04.19 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Bai ZongTong so i bought a DCII for 399,999,999isk
was that cheap?
Yes. Obviously what I say isn't always what my alliance thinks. I hate to break it to you, but this is in fact my signature. |
Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.04.19 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Known
Originally by: Bai ZongTong so i bought a DCII for 399,999,999isk
was that cheap?
Yes.
Not if he meant to buy a DCU II.
What is a DC II? -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while. |
dr doooo
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Posted - 2009.04.19 23:49:00 -
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I for one agree with the op. CCP need to fix this somehow, otherwise everyone within EVE are not going to be able to be friends.
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Bai ZongTong
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.04.19 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Agent Known
Originally by: Bai ZongTong so i bought a DCII for 399,999,999isk
was that cheap?
Yes.
Not if he meant to buy a DCU II.
What is a DC II?
Disney Channel II
In conclusion, I think you should vote Larkonis Trassler for CSM.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.04.20 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: dr doooo
I for one agree with the op. CCP need to fix this somehow, otherwise everyone within EVE are not going to be able to be friends.
That is the most compelling argument that has ever been made on this subject.
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Cyrdax
Provehito In Altum
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Posted - 2009.04.20 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound I fell for a scam!
and i liked it
i hope c+p don't mind it
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.04.20 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 20/04/2009 15:31:17
Originally by: Cyrdax and i liked it
I appreciate your sympathy for my loss, but this was like watching a hamster humping a pair of folded socks. No matter if this hamster leaves a stain on the socks, or not, you just are not making any plans to wear them. It's cute to watch him do what he does, though. -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while. |
Jim GNARKILL
Gnarkill INC
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Posted - 2009.04.20 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound Edited by: Whitehound on 20/04/2009 15:31:17
Originally by: Cyrdax and i liked it
I appreciate your sympathy for my loss, but this was like watching a hamster humping a pair of folded socks. No matter if this hamster leaves a stain on the socks, or not, you just are not making any plans to wear them. It's cute to watch him do what he does, though.
w.t.f. thats the strangest analogy ive ever heard of
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