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coolruningc
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
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Posted - 2012.05.06 00:08:00 -
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Ok I remember reading about CCP was planning some thing in eve some kind of side storeys or evens what ever, about the hidden race's in eve. The Joven's and the Talocan's. But that was about 2 years ago. I was hoping if CCP is done with T3 showing no sine of new ships e.g. Battle cruisers freights, Would it not be a good if at some point for CCP to start introducing these to hidden races. Slowly in to game buy that I mean as part of the 9th year celebration with a on going project for the next 5 years plus. Tank you for reading and fly safe. |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.05.06 00:28:00 -
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Why? Why would Eve need new races? What benefit would it add to the game?
CCP Greyscale wrote:Doing something just "because it would be cool/neat/awesome" is always a bad idea and will come back to bite you later ... when we start off with an awesome idea rather than an actual problem we want to fix or a feature that has a clear, functional and necessary goal, it generally requires painful fixes further down the road |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.05.06 09:23:00 -
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I propose they be a race of tall green amazonian women with three breasts. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Uronksur Suth
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.06 21:46:00 -
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coolruningc wrote:Ok I remember reading about CCP was planning some thing in eve some kind of side storeys or evens what ever, about the hidden race's in eve. The Joven's and the Talocan's. But that was about 2 years ago. I was hoping if CCP is done with T3 showing no sine of new ships e.g. Battle cruisers freights, Would it not be a good if at some point for CCP to start introducing these to hidden races. Slowly in to game buy that I mean as part of the 9th year celebration with a on going project for the next 5 years plus. Tank you for reading and fly safe.
Why? What would be the point? The only thing I want is an Apotheosis because I missed that anniversary handout and it looks cool. |
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
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Posted - 2012.05.06 23:14:00 -
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Heck, the 4 current races have no real differences in game play. So, why add more?
Nothing clever at this time. |
Baren
November 17th Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.07.19 19:53:00 -
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for new race ships maybe? new combine factions ships? |
Siobhan MacLeary
BRG Corp Acquisition Of Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.20 08:22:00 -
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What would be the point, from a designer's standpoint? CCP already has quite enough on their plate what with keeping us players in check and happy, iterating on Inferno, and working on the winter expansion.
The Jove race is CCP, for all intents and purposes - you cannot access their section of space without devhax, as far as I know.
The Talocan and Sleepers are NPC races, they are there to provide background lore for CCP to build on, not for players to play as. Unless you've forgotten, the Jove, Talocan, and Sleeper races were/are HIGHLY advanced compared to the techology in EVE now.
Oh, did I mention that the Sleepers are all in hibernation, the Talocan are all dead (so far as we know) and the Jove may-or-may-not be totally extinct as well? No? Well I just did. |
Baren
November 17th Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.07.20 21:28:00 -
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ask for more to get less |
Cyprus Black
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.21 03:02:00 -
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Before you can even think about suggesting new races for New Eden, you first have to spell New Eden correctly.
Then you have to get some game experience under your belt. Hijinks of a highsec pirate http://cyprusblack.blogspot.com/ |
SB Rico
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.08.19 11:34:00 -
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Siobhan MacLeary wrote:What would be the point, from a designer's standpoint? CCP already has quite enough on their plate what with keeping us players in check and happy, iterating on Inferno, and working on the winter expansion.
The Jove race is CCP, for all intents and purposes - you cannot access their section of space without devhax, as far as I know.
The Talocan and Sleepers are NPC races, they are there to provide background lore for CCP to build on, not for players to play as. Unless you've forgotten, the Jove, Talocan, and Sleeper races were/are HIGHLY advanced compared to the techology in EVE now.
Oh, did I mention that the Sleepers are all in hibernation, the Talocan are all dead (so far as we know) and the Jove may-or-may-not be totally extinct as well? No? Well I just did.
I am not sure how I stand on adding a new faction persay, but after 5 years and having trained to fly all 4 races sub caps I will say that personally it would give people like myself something to get excited about and something to work towards which isn't another 3-4 week l5 skill.
So the point from a devs view would be reengaging with long term, loyal players and it's gotta be a better thing to spend their time on than breaking (sorry unifying) inventories and the like :). Besides I would think designing new ship content might also be a fun thing for the devs as well. |
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Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
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Posted - 2012.08.23 00:01:00 -
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You mean Jove?
They was supposed to be the 5th race.... but ccp changed plans and now people cant use them... and they are cut from the star-gate net.... |
De'Nab
The Studmuffin's ROL.Citizens
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Posted - 2012.08.23 15:51:00 -
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Not sure about adding a new race, but I would like to see a huge epic arc mission involving The Jovians.
Although my current flavour of the month would be to maybe use some of Tony Gonzalez's work including the New Eden system (where it all began) and Terran artifacts, as was alluded to in his books Empyrean Age & Templar One.
Just my 2 cents |
Phox Jorkarzul
Deep Void Industrial Group Damned Nation
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Posted - 2012.08.24 12:23:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:I propose they be a race of tall green amazonian women with three breasts.
YES PLEASE......
But for real I don't want I new race.....It would be pointless and waste.
Much rather see the creation of T3 Battleships, Redoing PoS's, fixing faction warfare, fixings moon mining, fixing blaster boats ( I have come to think that it's not the weapon system but the ships), or the half a thousand other thing in EVE that need to be looked at. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.08.24 12:48:00 -
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Yes we could play panda bears....
Oh wait a crap game is using this to make an even crappier expansion (and charging money for it) Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Blastil
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.08.24 13:50:00 -
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I will try to use reason:
1) creation of a new race would be a time-consuming useless venture, requiring hundreds of thousands of man hours to design, develop, balance and create art assets (that last one especially) for an entire new race.
2) It would be such a sink of time, and return only a slightly valuable return, people would simply ignore the new race, and here's why: skill training in EVE is time based, and so this new race of pilots would be completely useless for 6 months until they can get into t2 ships of their racial tier. People in EvE wouldn't even bother making characters of that race, they'd just add the skills into their existing character, and train them. Since you can only train one character at a time, people aren't going to generate an alt in this race, unless they start a new character from scratch. And they probably won't choose this new race.
3) there is no room in EVE for a 5th player race. The Jove doesn't count. They're almost extinct. The Lore simply doesn't support this.
What IS more reasonable, and something I WOULD support would be adding more pirate factions that you can run missions for and aquire blueprints for. the 5 current pirate factions are great, but you can't have too much of a great thing I suppose =D But i agree with the majority of people in here who would rather see POS's and so forth. |
Kitt JT
League of Non-Aligned Worlds Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2012.08.26 23:39:00 -
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Ok lets all be honest here.
We all know that once ccp is done fixing and balancing and overhauling everything that needs it (we're talking like 5 years down the road here), ccp is going to go back to jesus-features.
This will include re-opening of the eve gate, and allowing us to move into and conquer the space surrounding earth. At this time, terrans will be added. Their ships would be new, and cool, and different, and since all the other races ships would be balanced, it would be a great time to add another race. Of course, there was a cataclysmic war on their side of the wormhole that saw the corporations nuked back into the stone age. They happened to advance at the same rate that the people in new eden advanced in, and all their ships are balanced.
Furthermore, since they USED to be much more advanced, there would clearly be many archeological and PVE activities around.
This all goes without saying that there would be lots of great opportunities to flesh out some kickass lore here.
Sure. I can get behind adding a whole new race. |
Obsidiana
White-Noise
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Posted - 2012.08.27 19:27:00 -
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Role players would love some fresh content, but no one cares about them. >;}
Seriously tho, while there is no need for more race, it would not be the first time they were added. I just would like to see them look drastically different from the current ones. In fact, I would want them to look like races that don't exist.
As for more ship line-ups, I think the last addition of races should be a model for the next. Just make them a part of the other races. For the Amarr, but my vote is for the Ealur. That said, the Ammatars would be a more mainstream choice. Start them off with Amarr ships and Minmatar guns. :P On a more serious note, I would like to see the seven Minmatar tribes playable, such as the Thukker tribe.
It should be noted that CCP originally intended for more playable races. This was curbed because of problems with the system that existed at that time. With the homogenization of the races, it does not add to the game play of EVE as it once would have.
I wish that initial skills were a little different with the bloodlines. They should be designed for mains or alts. A new character with some science and industrial skills would be nice. Maybe start a Gallente character out with (the upcoming) ORE skills for miners.
Btw, the Jovian race did exist, but not to players. CCP John Proctor is an example of one. Since the Incarna expansion, they have not been updated and are, in essence, removed from the game. So, that means Jovians would have to be re-added and opened to players. Here is a picture of a Jovian agent, which were open to the public by mistake at one point. |
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