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So...it's up to you. You the pilots, traders, industrialist, miners and salvagers of high sec to take a stand if you wish to see high sec become less of the killing grounds that they are.
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How ironic is it that CCP talks about risk-vs-reward yet allows players to skill up throw away alts, that can easily get into one of the cheapest ships in the game, where upon they can fly in high sec and blow up a ship 300 times the value of the ship they are flying?

Price a catalyst.
Price a hulk.

People in low and null sec scream that there is a huge imbalance in regions and that high sec players don't take the kind of risk people in low sec and null sec take.

Bulldung...complete and utter bulldung.

People in high sec are at just as much risk, if not more, than people in null sec and low sec. There is zero risk involved when a player can easily skill up an alt to fly a destroyer that only cost around 2 mil to buy and arm it. So tell me people of null and low sec with your camped gates and well protected play areas - how is where you play any different than the people that play in high sec?

Anyone that has played the snooze fest that is 0.0 knows that this risk - vs - reward is total BS. If anything the average pilots that do fly hulks and orcas in high sec take bigger risk than anyone playing in null sec. Especially when a person can so easily get into a cheap ship and blow the crap out of them any time they please.

CCP allows this - calls it game play when in actuality it is them laughing at you for thinking you are safe. People in high sec are the least safe people playing EVE. Yes it is griefing...it is griefing because it is so easily done. CCP doesn't care. The people that use the tactic do not care.

They are trolling you and all you do is - go get another tube of lube and say - "please sir...may I have some more."

If you want this to stop it is up to us high sec players to unite. Demand justice! Demand that this form of griefing be stopped. Unite under one flag and declare war on CCP. Stop being a victim. Start being assertive! Demand your rights as a player that CCP fix this unabashed exploit and bring some sense of fair game play to an area of space that is suppose to be the lesser of three evils. As it is now that is not the case - high sec is the most dangerous place for players to play EVE.

So...it's up to you. You the pilots, traders, industrialist, miners and salvagers of high sec to take a stand if you wish to see high sec become less of the killing grounds that they are. Bring balance back to this region of space by petitioning CCP to stop trolling you and to provide the game of EVE that is fair to all who play it and not just a chosen few.

Oh and while you toss that whole "hurrr 300 mil ship dying to a much cheaper one" you should probably stay out of nullsec where expensive ships die to much, much cheaper ones all the time

see ratting tengus dying to solo hurricanes

Aww, not the Titans dying to Hurricanes?

I have started several posts discussing this. I got an ingame email from someone who wants to start a blog.
The only hope high players have left is as you say unite under a banner, then organize for next year's CSM to put at least 4 members in the top seven to form a bloc to counter the null sec zealots.

Null sec risk, is risk taken on willingly. High sec "risk" is taken on unknowingly by choosing to be totally oblivious to the world you live in.

Catalysts blow up Hulks because they're AFK and aren't taking the proper precautions to avoid getting blown up. End of story.

How ironic is it that CCP talks about risk-vs-reward yet allows players to skill up throw away alts, that can easily get into one of the cheapest ships in the game, where upon they can fly in high sec and blow up a ship 300 times the value of the ship they are flying?

Price a catalyst.
Price a hulk.

People in low and null sec scream that there is a huge imbalance in regions and that high sec players don't take the kind of risk people in low sec and null sec take.

Bulldung...complete and utter bulldung.

People in high sec are at just as much risk, if not more, than people in null sec and low sec. There is zero risk involved when a player can easily skill up an alt to fly a destroyer that only cost around 2 mil to buy and arm it. So tell me people of null and low sec with your camped gates and well protected play areas - how is where you play any different than the people that play in high sec?

Anyone that has played the snooze fest that is 0.0 knows that this risk - vs - reward is total BS. If anything the average pilots that do fly hulks and orcas in high sec take bigger risk than anyone playing in null sec. Especially when a person can so easily get into a cheap ship and blow the crap out of them any time they please.

CCP allows this - calls it game play when in actuality it is them laughing at you for thinking you are safe. People in high sec are the least safe people playing EVE. Yes it is griefing...it is griefing because it is so easily done. CCP doesn't care. The people that use the tactic do not care.

They are trolling you and all you do is - go get another tube of lube and say - "please sir...may I have some more."

If you want this to stop it is up to us high sec players to unite. Demand justice! Demand that this form of griefing be stopped. Unite under one flag and declare war on CCP. Stop being a victim. Start being assertive! Demand your rights as a player that CCP fix this unabashed exploit and bring some sense of fair game play to an area of space that is suppose to be the lesser of three evils. As it is now that is not the case - high sec is the most dangerous place for players to play EVE.

So...it's up to you. You the pilots, traders, industrialist, miners and salvagers of high sec to take a stand if you wish to see high sec become less of the killing grounds that they are. Bring balance back to this region of space by petitioning CCP to stop trolling you and to provide the game of EVE that is fair to all who play it and not just a chosen few.

The idiot npc forum alt demagogues that preceded you tried this already.

How ironic is it that CCP talks about risk-vs-reward yet allows players to skill up throw away alts, that can easily get into one of the cheapest ships in the game, where upon they can fly in high sec and blow up a ship 300 times the value of the ship they are flying?

Price a catalyst.
Price a hulk.

People in low and null sec scream that there is a huge imbalance in regions and that high sec players don't take the kind of risk people in low sec and null sec take.

Bulldung...complete and utter bulldung.

People in high sec are at just as much risk, if not more, than people in null sec and low sec. There is zero risk involved when a player can easily skill up an alt to fly a destroyer that only cost around 2 mil to buy and arm it. So tell me people of null and low sec with your camped gates and well protected play areas - how is where you play any different than the people that play in high sec?

Anyone that has played the snooze fest that is 0.0 knows that this risk - vs - reward is total BS. If anything the average pilots that do fly hulks and orcas in high sec take bigger risk than anyone playing in null sec. Especially when a person can so easily get into a cheap ship and blow the crap out of them any time they please.

CCP allows this - calls it game play when in actuality it is them laughing at you for thinking you are safe. People in high sec are the least safe people playing EVE. Yes it is griefing...it is griefing because it is so easily done. CCP doesn't care. The people that use the tactic do not care.

They are trolling you and all you do is - go get another tube of lube and say - "please sir...may I have some more."

If you want this to stop it is up to us high sec players to unite. Demand justice! Demand that this form of griefing be stopped. Unite under one flag and declare war on CCP. Stop being a victim. Start being assertive! Demand your rights as a player that CCP fix this unabashed exploit and bring some sense of fair game play to an area of space that is suppose to be the lesser of three evils. As it is now that is not the case - high sec is the most dangerous place for players to play EVE.

So...it's up to you. You the pilots, traders, industrialist, miners and salvagers of high sec to take a stand if you wish to see high sec become less of the killing grounds that they are. Bring balance back to this region of space by petitioning CCP to stop trolling you and to provide the game of EVE that is fair to all who play it and not just a chosen few.

You do realise the value of the ship is irrevalent. The Hulk could cost any where from 0 - infinate amounts of isk. It will still blow up as easily, if not looked after properly.


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This has to do with fair and balanced play. Right now it is so lopsided in regards to how easily a player can train up an alt and use it to do one thing - grief - end of story. Most of the griefing takes place in high sec against new players who have not had the chance to skill up to a level that allows them to put up safe guards against such un-even odds and absolute un-balanced circumstances.

People in low and null sec scream all the time that the risk vs reward for them is not in-line with the players of high sec. I call BS on that because we all know the truth. The truth is that a player can easily train an alt, buy a cheap throw away ship and grief whom ever they please at no risk to them. End of story.

yeah you have a point

those poor new players in their hulks

You are 100% right, nulsec is safer than highsec, and it is for good reason. It takes hundreds and sometimes thousands of people working together, leadership and logistics and defence groups to keep 0.0 safe. The safety is earned by the hard work and endless CTAs of the people who enjoy building something like that in EVE.

The safety of Highsec is not far behind, and you have to do literally nothing to obtain it. Fair.

Then perhaps null sec players should stop doing their damndest to drive new players away and instead - bring them into the fold and get them into that part of the game. Recruit people with less than 5 mil sp actively. Most established 0.0 corps won't even look at a 5 mil specced player let alone give them the time of day. So what is the new player to do while they skill up to the point that a 0.0 corp will even look at them - oh yea...grab a tube of lube because the very people that they maybe one day playing with in null and low sec will be doing their best to grief the crap out of them in high sec.

A player happily mining away in hi-sec, should not be attacked any more than a lone player happily belt ratting in lo-sec or 0.0 should be attacked.

Value of the ship is not irrelevant - not to a new miner or a freighter pilot - especially when you consider the amount of effort a new player probably put into obtaining enough ISK to get into it in the first place.

Then perhaps null sec players should stop doing their damndest to drive new players away and instead - bring them into the fold and get them into that part of the game. Recruit people with less than 5 mil sp actively. Most established 0.0 corps won't even look at a 5 mil specced player let alone give them the time of day. So what is the new player to do while they skill up to the point that a 0.0 corp will even look at them - oh yea...grab a tube of lube because the very people that they maybe one day playing with in null and low sec will be doing their best to grief the crap out of them in high sec.