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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
598
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Posted - 2012.05.06 17:57:00 -
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Thomas Kreshant wrote:Lapine Davion wrote: So once again, why not gather all your little pissed off mining buddies and come to VFK and put us in our place? It'd be a lot more effective than coming to the forums and whining about it.
Nope, not interested thanks for asking tho Oh well, continue whining on the forums then. That'll show us!
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
131
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Posted - 2012.05.06 17:58:00 -
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OP is right on the money. Miners are the tools of the game. When some PVP player loses an expensive ship, he turns to banking to repair his kill board. Nothing is risked. The loss of the ship is certain, of course, but the salvage is of greater value, and there is no loss recorded for his kill board. Killing the mining barge of a real player is worth the ship loss and add to the pilots badass image. There are even minutes of the CSM where this is discussed as one justification for leaving mining in the game, so that there are always sitting ducks to shoot. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
388
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Posted - 2012.05.06 18:00:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:OP is right on the money. Miners are the tools of the game. When some PVP player loses an expensive ship, he turns to banking to repair his kill board. Nothing is risked. The loss of the ship is certain, of course, but the salvage is of greater value, and there is no loss recorded for his kill board. Killing the mining barge of a real player is worth the ship loss and add to the pilots badass image. There are even minutes of the CSM where this is discussed as one justification for leaving mining in the game, so that there are always sitting ducks to shoot.
Did you say that Miners are huge tools? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
388
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Posted - 2012.05.06 18:00:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:OP is right on the money. Miners are the tools of the game. When some PVP player loses an expensive ship, he turns to banking to repair his kill board. Nothing is risked. The loss of the ship is certain, of course, but the salvage is of greater value, and there is no loss recorded for his kill board. Killing the mining barge of a real player is worth the ship loss and add to the pilots badass image. There are even minutes of the CSM where this is discussed as one justification for leaving mining in the game, so that there are always sitting ducks to shoot.
Miners, this guy just called you all tools, are you going to take that? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2012.05.06 18:04:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote: Oh well, continue whining on the forums then. That'll show us!
Why would I want to show you?
I think the game is currently great, nothing much to whine about flying round exploring high sec doing a little salvaging it's all good. |
Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2012.05.06 18:05:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote: Miners, this guy just called you all tools, are you going to take that?
People are entitled to their opinions, leave the nice man alone. |
Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
153
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Posted - 2012.05.06 18:16:00 -
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Guys, sometimes when I use this ship in a mission, the rats kill it. I think CCP should reduce the rat damage. Its just not fair.
[Megathron, gankfit] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range 100MN Afterburner II
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L
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Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.05.06 18:18:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:It is griefing. Plan and simple..
were this true CCP would action them
I was goong to ask what the last time someone was banned for this but then I thought "has ANYONE EVER been banned for this?"
Lapine Davion wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:CCP could stop botting miners by changing the way mining is done and make it more interactive, they won't, they won't because then all those people that do bot, especially the botters for the large corps would stop playing. They don't try to stop mission botters either...it would cut into their wallet and they know it. CCP says that they give players the means to play the game as they like, yet they really don't.
If they did hulks would have a better tank and require a couple of BS's to take it down - in a gank situation. Risk vs reward. When an alt can train up and fly a ship that cost 2mil and blow up a ship that cost 300mil that is an imbalance.
Nobody is saying totally remove the ability to take out a hulk, but at least make it harder for people to grief. It is griefing. Plan and simple. This has nothing to do with botters. It has everything to do with people that just love to mess with other players.
Sure EVE is a cold hearted ***** at times, but is shouldn't be that way 24/7.
I am not advocating less violence. I am advocating that the game be balanced. You want to gank that miner it should a risk. It should cost. And it should be somewhat difficult. As it stands now, it doesn't take much to pop a barge. All it takes is an alt with enough skill points and 2 mil isk. You can do it less than week. It is a throw away character. Where is the balance for risk vs reward in that. There is none. So once again, why not gather all your little pissed off mining buddies and come to VFK and put us in our place? It'd be a lot more effective than coming to the forums and whining about it.
Or better yet and more effectively, take you an all your mining buddies and unsub a while. Its the only thing CCP gives a **** about http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.05.06 18:20:00 -
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oops http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
149
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Posted - 2012.05.06 18:24:00 -
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Takseen wrote:Guys, sometimes when I use this ship in a mission, the rats kill it. I think CCP should reduce the rat damage. Its just not fair.
[Megathron, gankfit] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Tracking Computer II Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range 100MN Afterburner II
Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L Modal Mega Neutron Particle Accelerator I, Antimatter Charge L
Large Auxiliary Thrusters I Large Auxiliary Thrusters I lolfail. You can easily fit another rig on there... +1 in local |
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Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
202
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Posted - 2012.05.06 18:29:00 -
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People do not play eve because it's a happy, pleasant, rainbow and sunshines place. New Eden is a cold, dark, scary place where a man can make unimaginable wealth if he's willing to put his ass on the line.
Pilots don't feel accomplished overcoming a rock in space. Players play eve because every new ship, every upgraded modules, every single isk is a triumph. Withotu adversity, there is no victory, no reward, and no game.
The only thing between you and the cold void of space is a thin sheet of rolled tungsten and the good will of the guy with the bigger gun, and that is exciting. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4084
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Posted - 2012.05.06 18:29:00 -
[462] - Quote
guys I was ratting in an istabbed nyx and I got popped by 3 hurricanes and a bomber this is unfair "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
600
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Posted - 2012.05.06 18:47:00 -
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Xander Riggs wrote:The only thing between you and the cold void of space is a thin sheet of rolled tungsten and the good will of the guy with the bigger gun, and that is exciting. You don't like shield tanking, I take it?
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
2145
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Posted - 2012.05.06 18:49:00 -
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Another one of these clueless threads. More dumb people seem to be playing Eve day by day. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Xander Riggs
EVE University Ivy League
202
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Posted - 2012.05.06 19:00:00 -
[465] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Xander Riggs wrote:The only thing between you and the cold void of space is a thin sheet of rolled tungsten and the good will of the guy with the bigger gun, and that is exciting. You don't like shield tanking, I take it?
I do both, actually, but armor is my first love. It was more a turn of phrase. "A man with a drone-boat has nothing but time on his hands." |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
389
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Posted - 2012.05.06 19:02:00 -
[466] - Quote
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:It is griefing. Plan and simple.. were this true CCP would action them I was goong to ask what the last time someone was banned for this but then I thought "has ANYONE EVER been banned for this?" Lapine Davion wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:CCP could stop botting miners by changing the way mining is done and make it more interactive, they won't, they won't because then all those people that do bot, especially the botters for the large corps would stop playing. They don't try to stop mission botters either...it would cut into their wallet and they know it. CCP says that they give players the means to play the game as they like, yet they really don't.
If they did hulks would have a better tank and require a couple of BS's to take it down - in a gank situation. Risk vs reward. When an alt can train up and fly a ship that cost 2mil and blow up a ship that cost 300mil that is an imbalance.
Nobody is saying totally remove the ability to take out a hulk, but at least make it harder for people to grief. It is griefing. Plan and simple. This has nothing to do with botters. It has everything to do with people that just love to mess with other players.
Sure EVE is a cold hearted ***** at times, but is shouldn't be that way 24/7.
I am not advocating less violence. I am advocating that the game be balanced. You want to gank that miner it should a risk. It should cost. And it should be somewhat difficult. As it stands now, it doesn't take much to pop a barge. All it takes is an alt with enough skill points and 2 mil isk. You can do it less than week. It is a throw away character. Where is the balance for risk vs reward in that. There is none. So once again, why not gather all your little pissed off mining buddies and come to VFK and put us in our place? It'd be a lot more effective than coming to the forums and whining about it. Or better yet and more effectively, take you an all your mining buddies and unsub a while. Its the only thing CCP gives a **** about
Thus proving that miners don't really care about the success of Eve at all. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
407
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Posted - 2012.05.06 19:06:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Thus proving that miners don't really care about the success of Eve at all. A) they care about "their" eve B) they don't give a **** about "your" eve...
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
389
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Posted - 2012.05.06 19:08:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Thus proving that miners don't really care about the success of Eve at all. A) they care about "their" eve B) they don't give a **** about "your" eve...
Their Eve is the same one we all play. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
407
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Posted - 2012.05.06 19:13:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Thus proving that miners don't really care about the success of Eve at all. A) they care about "their" eve B) they don't give a **** about "your" eve... Their Eve is the same one we all play. "Goons aren't out to ruin the game, they're out to ruin *your* game" - somehow, I"m not so sure about that.
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Josef Djugashvilis
148
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Posted - 2012.05.06 19:15:00 -
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How often do goon alts post nonsense in the forums, just so other goons can attack their 'supposed' views?
The real aim being self - promotion by the goons, on the basis of 'any publicity is good publicity.'
You want fries with that? |
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Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
154
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Posted - 2012.05.06 20:14:00 -
[471] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:How often do goon alts post nonsense in the forums, just so other goons can attack their 'supposed' views?
The real aim being self - promotion by the goons, on the basis of 'any publicity is good publicity.'
Funny, 6 months ago everyone was accused of being a CCP dev alt instead. And Devs are accused of being Goons. Argh its so confusing!
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
389
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Posted - 2012.05.06 20:17:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Thus proving that miners don't really care about the success of Eve at all. A) they care about "their" eve B) they don't give a **** about "your" eve... Their Eve is the same one we all play. "Goons aren't out to ruin the game, they're out to ruin *your* game" - somehow, I"m not so sure about that.
A quote by a drunk guy from how many years ago? A guy who is now the lead of a team involved in making sure the game is clear of cheaters and bots? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
601
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Posted - 2012.05.06 20:19:00 -
[473] - Quote
Takseen wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:How often do goon alts post nonsense in the forums, just so other goons can attack their 'supposed' views?
The real aim being self - promotion by the goons, on the basis of 'any publicity is good publicity.' Funny, 6 months ago everyone was accused of being a CCP dev alt instead. And Devs are accused of being Goons. Argh its so confusing! I wonder if some of the accusers were actually goon alts. So confusing..
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
389
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Posted - 2012.05.06 20:20:00 -
[474] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Takseen wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:How often do goon alts post nonsense in the forums, just so other goons can attack their 'supposed' views?
The real aim being self - promotion by the goons, on the basis of 'any publicity is good publicity.' Funny, 6 months ago everyone was accused of being a CCP dev alt instead. And Devs are accused of being Goons. Argh its so confusing! I wonder if some of the accusers were actually goon alts. So confusing..
And now we come to the horrifying truth. We are all Goon or Dev alts. Every single poster in GD. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
601
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Posted - 2012.05.06 20:27:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Takseen wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:How often do goon alts post nonsense in the forums, just so other goons can attack their 'supposed' views?
The real aim being self - promotion by the goons, on the basis of 'any publicity is good publicity.' Funny, 6 months ago everyone was accused of being a CCP dev alt instead. And Devs are accused of being Goons. Argh its so confusing! I wonder if some of the accusers were actually goon alts. So confusing.. And now we come to the horrifying truth. We are all Goon or Dev alts. Every single poster in GD. I can't unread it now ...
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2012.05.06 20:30:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Takseen wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:How often do goon alts post nonsense in the forums, just so other goons can attack their 'supposed' views?
The real aim being self - promotion by the goons, on the basis of 'any publicity is good publicity.' Funny, 6 months ago everyone was accused of being a CCP dev alt instead. And Devs are accused of being Goons. Argh its so confusing! I wonder if some of the accusers were actually goon alts. So confusing.. And now we come to the horrifying truth. We are all Goon or Dev alts. Every single poster in GD.
I wanted to be a Goon alt but they wanted to charge me 500 mil ISK |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
389
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Posted - 2012.05.06 20:30:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Takseen wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:How often do goon alts post nonsense in the forums, just so other goons can attack their 'supposed' views?
The real aim being self - promotion by the goons, on the basis of 'any publicity is good publicity.' Funny, 6 months ago everyone was accused of being a CCP dev alt instead. And Devs are accused of being Goons. Argh its so confusing! I wonder if some of the accusers were actually goon alts. So confusing.. And now we come to the horrifying truth. We are all Goon or Dev alts. Every single poster in GD. I can't unread it now ... It does make things so much more fun to read in this context. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
389
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Posted - 2012.05.06 20:31:00 -
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Thomas Kreshant wrote:Lapine Davion wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Takseen wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:How often do goon alts post nonsense in the forums, just so other goons can attack their 'supposed' views?
The real aim being self - promotion by the goons, on the basis of 'any publicity is good publicity.' Funny, 6 months ago everyone was accused of being a CCP dev alt instead. And Devs are accused of being Goons. Argh its so confusing! I wonder if some of the accusers were actually goon alts. So confusing.. And now we come to the horrifying truth. We are all Goon or Dev alts. Every single poster in GD. I wanted to be a Goon alt but they wanted to charge me 500 mil ISK
It's okay, you can be a Dev alt. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Josef Djugashvilis
150
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Posted - 2012.05.06 21:30:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Takseen wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:How often do goon alts post nonsense in the forums, just so other goons can attack their 'supposed' views?
The real aim being self - promotion by the goons, on the basis of 'any publicity is good publicity.' Funny, 6 months ago everyone was accused of being a CCP dev alt instead. And Devs are accused of being Goons. Argh its so confusing! I wonder if some of the accusers were actually goon alts. So confusing..
Sorry, but I would never join any corp which uses terms such as, aspie, sperg, pubbie etc.
The use of such terms lets down the user far more than it could ever insult the intended target.
I am for too old for such childish school ground nonsense. You want fries with that? |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
389
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Posted - 2012.05.06 21:32:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Takseen wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:How often do goon alts post nonsense in the forums, just so other goons can attack their 'supposed' views?
The real aim being self - promotion by the goons, on the basis of 'any publicity is good publicity.' Funny, 6 months ago everyone was accused of being a CCP dev alt instead. And Devs are accused of being Goons. Argh its so confusing! I wonder if some of the accusers were actually goon alts. So confusing.. Sorry, but I would never join any corp which uses terms such as, aspie, sperg, pubbie etc. The use of such terms lets down the user far more than it could ever insult the intended target. I am for too old for such childish school ground nonsense.
Okay? Good for you on pointing out how great you are for not using mean words? Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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