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Leon Caedo
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Posted - 2009.04.25 02:54:00 -
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Please be kind as I am rather new to PvP, and have very little experience.
I was in a 1v1 fight against an interceptor while I was in my vexor. My loadout was basically this: http://www.battleclinic.com/forum/index.php/topic,14022.0/Multi-Role-Vexor-Fit.html
except replace all the t2 with t1 and much cheaper 1600mm plate, lol. Also, I had a cap recharger instead of a webber, because I was planning on ratting a little bit.
Anyways, my 5 light drones couldn't scratch his shields and got decimated pretty fast by him. So then I was left with my 2 ogres (useless now), 2 hammerheads, and 1 hobgoblin.
I was cap stable and out repping his damage, but after about 15 min a few of his friends finally joined so they could kill me.
My question: What should I have done in this situation? Brought a webber and had faster light drones?
He stayed out at 14-20 km so I don't know if I could have webbed him even if I tried.
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Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt
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Posted - 2009.04.25 03:36:00 -
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Warrior II drones, Drone Navigation Computer, Web.
Any of those should help you take out smaller targets.
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wowtard
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Posted - 2009.04.25 03:46:00 -
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Needed Warrior II drones. Good luck getting into blaster range against that interceptor. You were the juicy target in this fight unfortunately.
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Leopold Caine
Amarr Ordo Nigrorum Susurri Ordo Magna
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Posted - 2009.04.25 08:26:00 -
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All stated above. Gallente drones are generaly the most damage dealing, and least fast ones. I once saw a swarm of hobgoblins I trying to catch a Sentinel and failing. ________________________________________
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Doktor Soet
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.25 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: Doktor Soet on 25/04/2009 09:50:37 well hard to give u an advice that will work in every or even most situations. to many different ceptors out there with pros and cons. and what will kill one ceptor makes the next one laugh. when i`m in a ceptor i always have drones in my overview. small drones especially warriors 2 r the only thing i pay attention very much (next to scrams). if i see small drones going for me i start shooting them, same did this ceptor pilot. so its in my opinion pretty pointless to use faster drones to catch ceptors cause every ceptor pilot that has a clue will kill them as fast as possible. generally if u get tackled be a ceptor and u cant kill him use ecm drones against him. from my expirience they land a jam before he can kill all of them. an overheated web and or scram also might be an option. if ur fighting in belts u can make a ceptor pilot a harder time if u move next to the roids. its hard to tackle someone and keep always the right range to not get scramed or webbed. cause i promise u sometime the ceptor will "fail" and bump from a roid and maybe thats exactly the moment u can land a web on him. even fighting next to a station or stargate might cause him to fail (i sometimes also do ) eventually small lasers with scorch may also help a little (rly just a little). personally i had good results with laser on my myrmidon against frig sized targets. better results then with blasters or auto canonns cause of their limited range.
but honestly there r a lot of if and maybies and a lot comes down to the pilot skills. as said above if u cant kill it try to run. so 5 small ecm drones can be a live saver and ur best option.
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Jaina Proudmoar
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.04.25 14:32:00 -
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Overheat web and scram, burn close to him, sic guns and drones onto him.
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Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.04.25 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: Intigo on 25/04/2009 19:05:26 For OP: An Interceptor that keeps range is practically impossible to stop unless you have Heavy Neuts. Other than getting lucky with ECM drones there is nothing you could have done in that situation.
Originally by: Doktor Soet Edited by: Doktor Soet on 25/04/2009 09:50:37 well hard to give u an advice that will work in every or even most situations. to many different ceptors out there with pros and cons. and what will kill one ceptor makes the next one laugh. when i`m in a ceptor i always have drones in my overview. small drones especially warriors 2 r the only thing i pay attention very much (next to scrams). if i see small drones going for me i start shooting them, same did this ceptor pilot. so its in my opinion pretty pointless to use faster drones to catch ceptors cause every ceptor pilot that has a clue will kill them as fast as possible. generally if u get tackled be a ceptor and u cant kill him use ecm drones against him. from my expirience they land a jam before he can kill all of them. an overheated web and or scram also might be an option. if ur fighting in belts u can make a ceptor pilot a harder time if u move next to the roids. its hard to tackle someone and keep always the right range to not get scramed or webbed. cause i promise u sometime the ceptor will "fail" and bump from a roid and maybe thats exactly the moment u can land a web on him. even fighting next to a station or stargate might cause him to fail (i sometimes also do ) eventually small lasers with scorch may also help a little (rly just a little). personally i had good results with laser on my myrmidon against frig sized targets. better results then with blasters or auto canonns cause of their limited range.
but honestly there r a lot of if and maybies and a lot comes down to the pilot skills. as said above if u cant kill it try to run. so 5 small ecm drones can be a live saver and ur best option.
"You can't kill it."
You are clueless. If he has decent drone skills and scram + web Warrior 2s will rip through an Interceptor in no time. You're more than welcome to shoot them, but a well-piloted Vexor who is right on top of you will be able to scoop them before they die and the Interceptor will go down.
"Useless to use faster drones vs interceptors"
Good lord, the things you say...
Edit: Nevermind, checking up a bit - you're just blatantly clueless. ___________________
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.04.25 20:16:00 -
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A webber is a ceptor's worst nightmare, but you have to get close enough to use one. A 2-point scram will also slow him way down.
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Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.04.25 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jimer Lins A webber is a ceptor's worst nightmare, but you have to get close enough to use one. A 2-point scram will also slow him way down.
2pt scrams are way worse. They're the new Web. ___________________
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Arthello
Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.04.27 00:20:00 -
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There's many things you could've done like people already mentioned. 1) Warrior drones, 2) web, 3) scrambler or 4) Neutralizer.
If you're afraid of being tackled by ceptors while ratting my advice is fit a (med) neut + web. One cycle with the neut will turn off his mwd immediately and your web will slow him to a crawl while your drones eat him up. I know I'm a ceptor pilot by heart and when I come up against targets like that I pray while I try to get out of webbing range to gtfo.
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Doktor Soet
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.27 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
For OP: An Interceptor that keeps range is practically impossible to stop unless you have Heavy Neuts. Other than getting lucky with ECM drones there is nothing you could have done in that situation.
You are clueless. If he has decent drone skills and scram + web Warrior 2s will rip through an Interceptor in no time. You're more than welcome to shoot them, but a well-piloted Vexor who is right on top of you will be able to scoop them before they die and the Interceptor will go down.
and u pretty much said what i said in my post: 1) ceptor at range is next to impossible to kill 2) only killable if ceptor gets in web and scram range
look what i have written about how to get him into that range and that ur best bet r ecm drones. so u say absolutly the same i say and call me clueless?
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Robert Porpoga
Gallente Star Quarter One
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Posted - 2009.04.27 10:32:00 -
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Energy Neutralizers can work, you can only fit a medium to the vexor, so you won't get any good range from it. An other thing that maybe could work, fit a tracking disruptor on, and when you're in the same situation load the optimal range disruption script. If it's not a crow you might maybe force him to get closer. Star Quarter CEO |
Shanghai Pierce
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Posted - 2009.04.27 15:19:00 -
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logoffski!
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Kovaric
Gallente Fine Goods for Fine Gentlemen
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Posted - 2009.04.27 17:12:00 -
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Ok, noob here, but if he's orbiting at 20km and scrambling you he's using a warp disruptor? 1 point? A vexor could probably get away with 1 point of warp stabilizer in the lows... Warp off and laugh at him? Or try to kill him, and then warp off and laugh at him once he's started to eat into your buffer? Independant Trader |
SurrenderMonkey
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Posted - 2009.04.27 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: SurrenderMonkey on 27/04/2009 18:48:12
Originally by: Kovaric Ok, noob here, but if he's orbiting at 20km and scrambling you he's using a warp disruptor? 1 point? A vexor could probably get away with 1 point of warp stabilizer in the lows... Warp off and laugh at him? Or try to kill him, and then warp off and laugh at him once he's started to eat into your buffer?
Warp core stabilizers are for traveling long distances through low sec and for masochists who get off on being mocked/ridiculed. :D And more the latter than the former, really.
The best answer here was already given, I think, but overload your web/scram and get close enough. Warrior IIs will take him down in a hurry. To be fair, though, the OP was definitely outskilled (character skills wise) if they were up against an interceptor and only have a T1 fit/are worried about the cost of a 1600mm rolled tungsten. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp |
Mazlow Shartain
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Posted - 2009.04.28 14:56:00 -
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Edited by: Mazlow Shartain on 28/04/2009 14:56:03
Originally by: Doktor Soet Edited by: Doktor Soet on 25/04/2009 09:50:37 generally if u get tackled be a ceptor and u cant kill him use ecm drones against him. from my expirience they land a jam before he can kill all of them.
QFT
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zzCoins
GK inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:19:00 -
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Recall drones, stop shooting and wait until you can jump through a gate to escape
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Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt
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Posted - 2009.04.29 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: zzCoins Recall drones, stop shooting and wait until you can jump through a gate to escape
bwwaaaack bwaaack bwwack bwack, why even leave mostu with that sort of thinking?
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Smooth Jim
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Posted - 2009.04.29 07:16:00 -
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Well, you wont catch a ceptor in Vexor if ceptor pilot is not a moron. But I found Vexor very fun ship to PvP in it. How to do it:
Vexor fights with drones, if you fit 1600 plate PG becomes very tight. When I'm using Vexor in 0.0 (rare - mostly when I'm in comedy mail mood).
Dont remember exact fit but: 1600 plate, damage control - AB (MWD wont fit), full rack of mixture of small neutralisers + 1 Med NOS web + point.
It is really funny if U jump somewhere, there is solo HAC or Recon on the gate... you are trying to slowboat towards gate, he is always comming in web range trying to web you. All the ships like recons or similar will die. Once I took even mega to hull before I popped.
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Biscuit0
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.05 09:28:00 -
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Just get your drone skills up bro.
Vexors dying to inties is shameful, unless there's 20 of them.
If your manual piloting skills aren't too bad try something like.
highs: med neuts, tractor beam, salvager mids: mwd, point, large shield ext lows: 2x nano, 2x power diag sys
1 mixed heavy rack of ogres, hammerheads, hobgobs for cruiser and bigger targets 1 rack of warrior ii's
You need to learn how to break an inties orbit by piloting manually, trick him into getting close so maybe you can neut + pt (maybe I should use a scram/2pts) him.
Collect your T2 salvage and keep on truckin'
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.05 10:21:00 -
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Quote:
Warp core stabilizers are for traveling long distances through low sec and for masochists who get off on being mocked/ridiculed
... or Caldaris in FW :D
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Overheat web and scram, burn close to him, sic guns and drones onto him
Overheating is really the suggestion a fresh newbie to the game can put in practice. Oh wait.
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Krist Valentine
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.05.06 17:31:00 -
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pretty similar to how i fly a vexor, only i use a nos or a neut in the top slot where you use a drone link aug one note is that even though you get al ot more damage with the 2 heavy 2 mid 1 light drone setup, it axes your ability to adapt - i used to fly that but ive found 5 meds (hammer IIs) and 5 lights (warrior or hg IIs) to be much more reliable
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