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Pres Crendraven
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:34:00 -
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I wish CCP would come out with a smartphone sandbox. They will never capture the Top 20% but if they really enjoy working for niche players, the long tail of the other 80% could be served and I'm thinking short lead times of cellphone apps with CCP's quick development resources would be just the platform for finding other niches. look how fast Lego can respond with customer designed sets. Note the collaboration, lego provides tools, customers design sets. Customer solicits customers, lego uses their marketing to leverage customer designs even further. I certainly hope dust pushes them further toward the 20% envelope but it may not.
CCP keeps banging out stuff, their processes keep improving. Their response to costumers is weeks instead of months. I bet they could develop a sandbox template and pop this stuff out as fast as the next hit video comes out.
But Back to UO, If you look at inflation as relative to ship price, your only seeing part of the picture. Several indicators are converging rather than diverging. A whole new economy will be in Meta34me
Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3748
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:38:00 -
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nat longshot wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:This might have been me, although I'm not sure.
The point I was trying to make is that we don't want the same levels of inflation. That's why we'll do a lot of adjustments that may sometimes feel like nerfs, because we've managed to keeps EVEs economy healthy for 9 years and that needs to continue.
Edit: On a sidenote, I <3 UO very much. healthy have you see the cost of ship lately 210 mill for a rokh 90 mil for a domi. Soundwave the economy is way out of wack. No rogue drone drop now only isk and sal there now the only missions and npc i dont shot there worthless now. plex prices well i wont even go there. But when ships cost 2x what they cost less then a year ago something is broken and well ccp broke it.
What are the "correct" prices for those ships then?
In terms of buying power, they're still significantly cheaper than when I started playing (25M/hr was seen as top-end ratting in 2006; Ravens cost 125-130M) - and T2 mods and ships are still far cheaper. A Cerberus used to go for a price equivalent to almost four months of game time.
In terms of required player effort, ships are a lot cheaper than they used to be be, merely more expensive than they were recently. CCP have deemed (and I agree) that the level of effort was too low and needed to be raised. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
303
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:41:00 -
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Gealbhan wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:I sincerely hope not, but carebears are indeed the MMO cancer, they ruined UO (and every other good MMO in the market, see SWG). Actually PvPers ruined UO. Slaughtering newbs trying to get from Britain to the Moongate may have been lulz worthy but it lead to the creation of safe havens like Trammel because of it. UO has survived as long as it has Because of Trammel these days. Felucca is dead dead dead. EvE is not UO.
Carebears bitched in order to get their safe spots. They didn't take any precautions, they didn't travel in groups. They just died, then whined. They got their way.
When they got their way, subscription numbers plummeted. PvPers had zero interest in staying, and carebears had nothing to do besides grind for more money without any kind of real goal, and there were much, much better PvE games out in which they could do that (Everquest was out by then)
The game is kept alive by a few people who have several accounts, a large number of bots, and a large number of people who resub periodically to take a stroll down memory lane.
There are a huge number of free servers, and a huge number of T2A/Pre-Trammel/Current-game-without-trammel-rules have more players than any individual actual UO server.
Carebears killed it. People have a hard time determining what words mean. Words. -á |
Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
40
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:52:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:This might have been me, although I'm not sure.
The point I was trying to make is that we don't want the same levels of inflation. That's why we'll do a lot of adjustments that may sometimes feel like nerfs, because we've managed to keeps EVEs economy healthy for 9 years and that needs to continue.
Edit: On a sidenote, I <3 UO very much.
Hey there Genius
Remember to have someone pop your ego daily or hourly to make sure you do not screw over the player base with your nerfs |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3748
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Posted - 2012.05.13 07:58:00 -
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Ziranda Hakuli wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:This might have been me, although I'm not sure.
The point I was trying to make is that we don't want the same levels of inflation. That's why we'll do a lot of adjustments that may sometimes feel like nerfs, because we've managed to keeps EVEs economy healthy for 9 years and that needs to continue.
Edit: On a sidenote, I <3 UO very much. Hey there Genius Remember to have someone pop your ego daily or hourly to make sure you do not screw over the player base with your nerfs
Oh look, the problem posts complaining about the solution. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
600
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Posted - 2012.05.13 08:24:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:This might have been me, although I'm not sure.
The point I was trying to make is that we don't want the same levels of inflation. That's why we'll do a lot of adjustments that may sometimes feel like nerfs, because we've managed to keeps EVEs economy healthy for 9 years and that needs to continue.
Edit: On a sidenote, I <3 UO very much.
Interestingly enough, it turns out that datacore farming in hisec is an issue about passive income, whereas moon goo farming in nullsec 23/7 is not. How convenient. EVE residents: 5% WH; 8% Lowsec; 15% Nullsec; 72% Highsec. CSM 7: 1 highsec resident out of 14.-á
CSM demographics vs EVE demographics, nothing to worry about... |
Tash Rockski
STAHLSTURM Test Friends Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.05.13 08:42:00 -
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Degren wrote:Gealbhan wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:I sincerely hope not, but carebears are indeed the MMO cancer, they ruined UO (and every other good MMO in the market, see SWG). Actually PvPers ruined UO. Slaughtering newbs trying to get from Britain to the Moongate may have been lulz worthy but it lead to the creation of safe havens like Trammel because of it. UO has survived as long as it has Because of Trammel these days. Felucca is dead dead dead. EvE is not UO. Carebears bitched in order to get their safe spots. They didn't take any precautions, they didn't travel in groups. They just died, then whined. They got their way. When they got their way, subscription numbers plummeted. PvPers had zero interest in staying, and carebears had nothing to do besides grind for more money without any kind of real goal, and there were much, much better PvE games out in which they could do that (Everquest was out by then) The game is kept alive by a few people who have several accounts, a large number of bots (roughly 90% of the game population bots, look up some UO macro sites), and a large number of people who resub periodically to take a stroll down memory lane. There are a huge number of free servers, and a huge number of T2A/Pre-Trammel/Current-game-without-trammel-rules have more players than any individual actual UO server. Carebears killed it because they knowingly joined a hardcore game and asked for it to not-be-so-hardcore anymore. Terrible troll. Subs increased at a higher rate after the introduction of Renaissance, spiking in mid 2003 when people started to realize "meh, AoS is ****" and left in droves.
The reason freeshards had no trammel/felucca is they never had the population to mirror worlds. http://eve-corp-management.org |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3748
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Posted - 2012.05.13 08:56:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:This might have been me, although I'm not sure.
The point I was trying to make is that we don't want the same levels of inflation. That's why we'll do a lot of adjustments that may sometimes feel like nerfs, because we've managed to keeps EVEs economy healthy for 9 years and that needs to continue.
Edit: On a sidenote, I <3 UO very much. Interestingly enough, it turns out that datacore farming in hisec is an issue about passive income, whereas moon goo farming in nullsec 23/7 is not. How convenient.
Yes, it's almost as if there are significant qualitative differences between the two
Speaking of "interestingly", I notice you still haven't updated the false information in your sig, despite repeated having to concede that it's wrong.
Or is EVE University not a hi-sec organisation any more? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
600
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Posted - 2012.05.13 09:25:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:This might have been me, although I'm not sure.
The point I was trying to make is that we don't want the same levels of inflation. That's why we'll do a lot of adjustments that may sometimes feel like nerfs, because we've managed to keeps EVEs economy healthy for 9 years and that needs to continue.
Edit: On a sidenote, I <3 UO very much. Interestingly enough, it turns out that datacore farming in hisec is an issue about passive income, whereas moon goo farming in nullsec 23/7 is not. How convenient. Yes, it's almost as if there are significant qualitative differences between the two Speaking of "interestingly", I notice you still haven't updated the false information in your sig, despite repeated having to concede that it's wrong. Or is EVE University not a hi-sec organisation any more?
I am griefing you, thanks for noticing. EVE residents: 5% WH; 8% Lowsec; 15% Nullsec; 72% Highsec. CSM 7: 1 highsec resident out of 14.-á
CSM demographics vs EVE demographics, nothing to worry about... |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3748
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Posted - 2012.05.13 09:27:00 -
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If you think making a fool out of yourself in public is "griefing" me, then good luck and go to it. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
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ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
62
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Posted - 2012.05.13 10:12:00 -
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I think to satisfy those who miss fighting in WOW and UO, CCP should carry on with WiS and change it to fighting orcs in station. |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
122
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Posted - 2012.05.13 10:15:00 -
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So after reading this whole thread...
- The subscription base for Eve is growing over nine years.
- Carebears infiltrated the game and are a cancer to Eve's survival. - Some stats pointing towards null sec players having high sec alts add to this number.
- High sec space is getting deadlier or friendly, depending upon your stance. - A deadlier high sec space will be the death knell for Eve. - A friendlier high sec space will be the death knell for Eve.
- Other online games were mentioned with reasons for their downfall. - Carebear infiltration (or split to a separate server) were the reasons for these games' downfall. - Player versus player type players left to their own kind had nothing to do and left the game. - Side note about many of these types are not as hardcore as they think they are.
- One developer posted here. - Some players feel he will lead Eve to the promised lands. - Some players feel he will lead Eve to side with a prominent alliance due to past affiliations.
- The typical CCPAKs were out in this thread over the typical whiners. |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
306
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Posted - 2012.05.13 10:18:00 -
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Tash Rockski wrote:Terrible troll. Subs increased at a higher rate after the introduction of Renaissance, spiking in mid 2003 when people started to realize "meh, AoS is ****" and left in droves.
The reason freeshards had no trammel/felucca is they never had the population to mirror worlds.
Terrible troll, patently wrong on all counts. Yes. ALL. COUNTS. Renaissance led to a surge in subs because it was a ~new xpac~... however, the subs died off long before AoS was released or even announced. When it was announced, another spike occurred because OMG PALADINS AND NECROMANCERS...then that quickly died off again, too.
There are freeshards with Trammel. There are freeshards with no Trammel.
Quite a few of the no Trammel servers have populations exceeding any current (and several peak) UO server(s). Three or four of the trammel servers do too, but...yeah.
My point still stands on all facets (lul)
Trammel killed UO. Carebears requested Trammel. People have a hard time determining what words mean. Words. -á |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
602
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Posted - 2012.05.13 11:17:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:If you think making a fool out of yourself in public is "griefing" me, then good luck and go to it.
Did you notice how i still claim that there are 14 CSM members, too? EVE residents: 5% WH; 8% Lowsec; 15% Nullsec; 72% Highsec. CSM 7: 1 highsec resident out of 14.-á
CSM demographics vs EVE demographics, nothing to worry about... |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
573
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Posted - 2012.05.13 11:27:00 -
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ctx2007 wrote:I think to satisfy those who miss fighting in WOW and UO, CCP should carry on with WiS and change it to fighting orcs in station.
Like this. shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.13 11:32:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Degren wrote:n the new world, there was quite literally zero risk, so the economy got completely ****** and inflated. Everyone went mob-killing (ratting) in the best gear (deadspace) instead of basic blacksmithed (t2) gear, no one cared about ore/minerals anymore, etc, etc.
It was the deathknell for UO. Subscriptions dropped off massively and it never recovered. The game is god awful now, but a carebears absolutely sweetest heaven, full of opportunities for massive gold-accumulation and nothing to spend it on. A horrible way to go...
And how actual changes are going to make it different? |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1369
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Posted - 2012.05.13 11:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:highonpop wrote:Highsec is safer than ever? I'm guessing someone was not online last weekend... Yes, and last weekend is a good illustration: it's now so safe that a concentrated alliance effort is required to produce a kind of carnage that was almost common-place before.
It's not due to CONCORD being made more powerful, it's due to players getting ganked frequently enough that they had to adapt or die. So they adapted. Now the gankers are complaining that there's very little in the way of slow, fat prey around. They've fished out the waters and are now demanding that the Government do something about it.
So no, EVE is not turning into UO. It's just that after 9 years of being blown up for being stupid, the stupid folks are gradually learning to not be stupid. Don't fly more than 1B ISK worth of cargo in a freighter -> fewer ganks. Nothing to do with CONCORD, everything to do with gankers shooting everything that moves, so things learn to stop moving.
It's low sec all over again. The stupids are the ones with the guns shooting everything that moves then complaining that hisec is too safe because they have nothing left to shoot.
4000 Hulks dead so far, and the month isn't even half way through. I think that speaks volumes about how "safe" hisec is. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3748
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Posted - 2012.05.13 11:38:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Malcanis wrote:If you think making a fool out of yourself in public is "griefing" me, then good luck and go to it. Did you notice how i still claim that there are 14 CSM members, too?
It's consistent with your general refusal to allow mere facts to influence your arguments. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.13 12:05:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:It's low sec all over again. The stupids are the ones with the guns shooting everything that moves then complaining that hisec is too safe because they have nothing left to shoot.
4000 Hulks dead so far, and the month isn't even half way through. I think that speaks volumes about how "safe" hisec is.
Null sec "hard core" pvp fans are bored because they have nothing serious to do.
Low sec "hard core" pvp fans are bored because other than gate/station camping it's hours of nothing to do.
High sec carebears (regular casuals) are getting their already small income nerf at each patch patching the patch of last patch.
Lets see how good the game "shake" will be the next 6 months.
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Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us
112
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Posted - 2012.05.13 12:05:00 -
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So if I have this straight, Carebears are the Jews of 1930's Germany, anything that is wrong it is automatically their fault.
I think you should cry moar. I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3748
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Posted - 2012.05.13 12:07:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:It's low sec all over again. The stupids are the ones with the guns shooting everything that moves then complaining that hisec is too safe because they have nothing left to shoot.
4000 Hulks dead so far, and the month isn't even half way through. I think that speaks volumes about how "safe" hisec is. Null sec "hard core" pvp fans are bored because they have nothing serious to do. Low sec "hard core" pvp fans are bored because other than gate/station camping it's hours of nothing to do. High sec carebears (regular casuals) are getting their already small income nerf at each patch patching the patch of last patch. Lets see how good the game "shake" will be the next 6 months.
Perhaps you're unaware - or jst choose not to remember - that 0.0 income has seen a couple of minor downward adjustments also. Almost as if... as if... CCP wanted to reduce income globally, and now after years of only getting buffed, it's hi-sec's turn Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.13 12:29:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:It's low sec all over again. The stupids are the ones with the guns shooting everything that moves then complaining that hisec is too safe because they have nothing left to shoot.
4000 Hulks dead so far, and the month isn't even half way through. I think that speaks volumes about how "safe" hisec is. Null sec "hard core" pvp fans are bored because they have nothing serious to do. Low sec "hard core" pvp fans are bored because other than gate/station camping it's hours of nothing to do. High sec carebears (regular casuals) are getting their already small income nerf at each patch patching the patch of last patch. Lets see how good the game "shake" will be the next 6 months. Perhaps you're unaware - or jst choose not to remember - that 0.0 income has seen a couple of minor downward adjustments also. Almost as if... as if... CCP wanted to reduce income globally, and now after years of only getting buffed, it's hi-sec's turn
Nerf individual player income was and will never be a good choice, null sec anoms got buff recently again because the impact was not the one expected.
So to make it simple atm, the good way to make huge amounts of isk is to either have tech moons or trade at station hubs. Moon mining "should" be nerf, witch I strongly doubt without further information than just rumours about ring mining, when is trading going to get a good nerf stick by significantly increasing taxes and make it as interesting as PI?
And yes I'm already expecting the argument about price repercussion on buyer, but this has consequences equally ^^ |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
602
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Posted - 2012.05.13 12:53:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:It's consistent with your general refusal to allow mere facts to influence your arguments.
I would seriously consider the possibiltiy that i haven't bothered myself to update my signature since Fanfest.
I've been thinking about updating it but don't really come to like anything I figure...
#1: Quote:"Crucible did nothing for me, but now Inferno just removed my skin color... so please keep the good work CCP"
This one would suit to my main, just she's cancelled.
#2: Quote:"Shoot foreign mercenaries, get datacores: because research stems from the muzzle of a gun"
That would make sense if i ever bothered myself with invention/research and stuff.
#3: Quote:Inferno Wardec and Mercenary system: being wardecced by the alts of your hired guns since 2012. -did someone pay royalties to Augustus?
This one is ironical enough but, come on, how many people know that Augustus hired arsonists to convince people that they needed to hire Augustus' firefighters? EVE residents: 5% WH; 8% Lowsec; 15% Nullsec; 72% Highsec. CSM 7: 1 highsec resident out of 14.-á
CSM demographics vs EVE demographics, nothing to worry about... |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
405
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Posted - 2012.05.13 16:22:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Nerf individual player income was and will never be a good choice, null sec anoms got buff recently again because the impact was not the one expected.
So to make it simple atm, the good way to make huge amounts of isk is to either have tech moons or trade at station hubs. Moon mining "should" be nerf, witch I strongly doubt without further information than just rumours about ring mining, when is trading going to get a good nerf stick by significantly increasing taxes and make it as interesting as PI?
And yes I'm already expecting the argument about price repercussion on buyer, but this has consequences equally ^^
If individual player income is driving inflation up, then by all means it deserves to be nerfed. If that is currently the case in EVE though, is debatable.
And corporate/alliance-level passive income is important for null. The reason why it's imbalanced right now, has less to do with how much money can be made from a single moon and more with the ridiculously cheap jump and bridge mechanics, allowing alliances to control multiple regions, have complete safety and quick travel to their hinterlands, and enable alliances to NAP all their neighbors without facing boredom-rot, forming a coalition that can no longer be challenged.
Nerfing moon-income will change nothing to the underlying problems causing things like the high Tech prices, or even the impact of dronegoo on empire mineral prices for that matter.
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Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
120
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Posted - 2012.05.13 16:35:00 -
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Vas Ort Flam, Corp Por, In Nox, Corp Por, In Nox. |
Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
369
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Posted - 2012.05.13 17:00:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:I sincerely hope not, but carebears are indeed the MMO cancer, they ruined UO (and every other good MMO in the market, see SWG).
ITT: Vaju Enki outs himself as a node of cancer in the body politic of EVE. |
Pres Crendraven
19
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Posted - 2012.05.13 18:21:00 -
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What is driving inflation is trade. The bots aren't producing a super eficient market anymore and there is some collaboration to keep t2 products and reactions from falling as htey should. Demand has dropped with demand for hulks (a huge tech consumer) and many t2 hulls have been replaced by t3. Yet with the drop in demand, it continues to rise while stuff like minerals are dropping from reduced demand. It really looks like traders are able to push the market higher and higher though without the bots. Meta34me
Corp and Alliance details hidden to protect the innocent. |
Renivira Que
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.14 06:10:00 -
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I am a carebear, fear me for i am a decease rotting though Eve's flash, have been doing so for a month, 2 hours a week. Although i may become bored sooner. Seriously though, why can't you just arrive at conclusion that you need a high sec in which both griefers don't get too bored and carebears don't feel too safe ? As has been proven in this thread, succumbing too much to one type of players can cause trouble no matter what group that is. It's always some sort of balance. |
Rybern
13th Colony of Kobol
0
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Posted - 2012.05.14 07:19:00 -
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Before I started playing EVE longgg time ago, used to play a game called
"Runescape"
The game used to be fun with its own PVP system at a unsafe area called 'wilderness'... But then the carebears started whining about how they were keep getting killed and how it was unfair and what not.
So the devs caved into carebear pressure and removed the wilderness. There was effectively a period where one cannot get ANY random PVP encounters.
The result? The game dropped from its peak of 400k players online average to now 20k players average. The subscription dropped off so much to the point that the company is about to go bankrupt...
All because the devs caved into carebear pressure! |
Jebediah MacAhab Dallocort
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.05.14 09:02:00 -
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A GUIDE TO COMMON COMPLAINTS ABOUT AND BY CAREBEARS BY SIR JEBEDIAH MACAHAB DALLOCORT V OF VERGE VENDOR
First of all, can we change the name? "Carebear" is starting to be used in so many different occupations and situations that it's losing all meaning. For the purpose of this guide, I'll define carebear as a miner, but I propose something like "Rockmaggot", which is both condescending and specific.
Onto the main course.
"THE CAREBEARS MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY"
Yeah, I feel rich making about 400k an hour (when I'm not sleeping, hauling, running around for parts, scouting fields, salvaging, or huddled in the station watching local while waiting for a few reds to go away), most of which is spent repairing or replacing my ships, whereas all you goons have to do is spend 15 minutes at an L4 to earn a few billion. This is a ******** argument and you should be spanked for making it.
"THE CAREBEARS ARE TOO SAFE"
Not really. Aforementioned ship replacement happens frequently. If you mine, you're going to get ganged by pirate corps or gankers, so a crucial part of the (smart) miner's budget is for replacing the ship you're currently flying around in. Sometimes you have to downgrade to a Navitas, too. Other times, xXxPirateDude420xXx and his merry crew of nolifers will make sure you won't leave the station for at least a week without incurring serious laser burns on your buttocks.
So no, we're not safe. At all. I sometimes wonder what nullsec is like, knowing fully well that I won't make it within 5 jumps of there without waking up in a vat.
"CAREBEARS BROKE THE ECONOMY"
Actually, the current inflation is from a low supply of ore brought on by botters getting banned (yay), plus the whole drone fiasco, and Goons deciding they needed to blow up everything with a mining laser on it because **** you it's mittens-day. Demand is also higher due to increased shipbuilding, which is due to stuff getting blown up more frequently, so congratulations for breaking your own ******* economy, idiots. Fortunately, it's making the whole ship replacement thing a bit easier for me since ore prices are higher than the average individual at Woodstock.
"CAREBEARS NEED PUNISHING FOR NOT FLYING A TANKED HULK"
Uh, hulks aren't intended to be tanked, from what I understand. You're supposed to fly with this cool thing called a fleet that watches your back for you while you mine crap in nullsec. Unfortunately, the whole wardec **** thing I mentioned above usually means the fleet's tied up while you're trying to make dough for replacement ships for the war while trying to swat rats and gankers in a minifleet of fellow Hulks and Orcas. If you're going to scream about plying the gaem rite, at least try to figure out the role of the ship you're so pissed about. They're not intended for solo mining, and those slots are meant for survey scanners, cargo expanders, and mining drones.
"GOONS ARE DELIBERATELY TRYING TO DESTROY THE ECONOMY"
No, they're just blowing **** up like they always do. Long before I made an account here, I heard of the Goonswarm's various exploits, and I've rolled with groups of goons in other games doing similar crap. The goons are basically like every other player on here, except they're from a... I dunno what the hell SA is anymore. A humor website with a forum? A forum with a humor website? A self-sentient server eating PCP by the handful? Anyway, they're better organized, have a common personality set, and are pretty much all asses. However, from my own experiences with members of their realm, they're barely able to organize stuff like Hulkageddon to any level of precision. It's just GO KILL, GET MONEYS sort of stuff, so trying to say they're capable of trying to deliberately screw the economy isn't plausable. Sure, it's a predictable side effect, but I highly doubt Mittens and Co. sat down one day at a round table and decided they were going to do A, B, and C to screw up the economy. It's far more likely that they just said, "You know what? Let's go blow up some Hulks and stuff."
"GOONS ARE INFLUENCING CCP"
Considering that they're literally the largest alliance in New Eden, yes, they probably are. However, most instances of this stupid complaint involve much more direct negotiations. No, I don't think CCP Soundwave has Mittens whispering in his ear while he sleeps. It's far more likely that the changes that are being made go in the direction that CCP just wants to go. They don't want WoW (I don't want WoW, for that matter), so they're going to steer the game clear of those rocks. Don't get me wrong, there is some goon influence, it just doesn't involve ninjas at board meetings.
"GOONS ARE OBSESSED ABOUT CAREBEARS"
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