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Katalci
Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.09 03:07:00 -
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This is a terrible idea. It serves no purpose -- mining yield/tank are already very well balanced; it's just that miners are too stupid to fit their ships properly.
Brooks Puuntai wrote:Would think reducing the yield and increasing the defenses of barges/exhumers would be a better solution. You can already do this by, you know, fitting your ship differently.
Bootleg Jack wrote:The root issue has nothing to do with mining or miners.
There is so much disposable wealth in the game that people can afford to lose dozens of ships.
The risk model is hosed, people who can afford to lose that many ships are not actually taking any risk.
So essentially you have a part of the population participating in zero risk PvP with another part of the population who are so broke they cannot replace the ship they are flying. You misunderstand the "risk" part of it. It doesn't matter if the gankers have much risk, because the reward is very slim (in terms of in-game tangible value), maybe a strip miner or two that'll sell for a few million. (And they do have risk; it's just that the risk is 100% -- you lose your ship every time. What makes you convert 100% to 0%, I have no idea.) It's a very, very low ISK/hour activity, worse than actual mining on average. You also risk failing to gank and get any reward at all.
The risk needs to come to the miners, whose ONLY risk is ganking while they continuously profit. |
Katalci
Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:59:00 -
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AureoBroker wrote:While i hold no hope about honorable engagements and such (it's part of the EVE beauty having the lack of those), it's SUPPLY DISRUPTION, which would be qualified under "market" and not under "pvp". You're engaging in an activity which is VERY akin to ratting. People won't shoot back in any form. Won't react. The outcome of the activity is expected with less than 1% of variance. Now, excuse me for that, but i thought pvp was about surviving AND killing. The simple fact that you're interacting with another player does not make it PVP, unless any market activity (be it on the supply or demand side) is considered pvp. "Killing miners isn't pvp because they're so stupid that they're effectively NPCs." Did you think before you wrote this horrific post?
Brooks Puuntai wrote:Andrea Roche wrote: Why dont you ask CCP to remove mining barges from the game then?
I wouldn't mind them doing this. So long as they replace them with a T3 version that allows customization based off of need. How mind-bogglingly stupid do you have to be to think that something has to have subsystems for it to be customizable? |
Katalci
Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:03:00 -
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AureoBroker wrote:It's not about miners being dumb. Yes it is. |
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