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Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
123
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Posted - 2012.05.07 19:08:00 -
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Why - if it is a profession of EVE does CCP do nothing but neglect it and allow miners in EVE to become the brunt of hate. If it weren't for players willing to sit and perform what many consider the most boring aspect ever conceived in a game - this game wouldn't exist. Ore is everything in this game. It is used to make all the ships that people just feel the need to constantly destroy.
The last real effort CCP made to mining was when they introduced hulks and that was 6 years ago! Six years and mining has seen little to no changes since then.
Miners of EVE are the joke of the game. Isn't it time for CCP to either just remove that aspect from the game or fix it? When will the mining profession become a viable and as important of a profession as grief ganking seems to have become? |
Heinrich Rotwang
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:11:00 -
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For a miner, the only winning move is not to play at all. |
Janet Patton
Brony Express
11
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:13:00 -
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I just mine wrecks now instead of roids. Why do I have this sig? I don't smoke. |
Greyscale Dash
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:14:00 -
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Heinrich Rotwang wrote:For a miner, the only winning move is not to play at all.
This is completely wrong. Don't mine AFK. Everyone I know who lost a hulk was watching Netflix or reading or AFK while mining. |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
150
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:15:00 -
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Miners deserve your hate. Embrace it. +1 in local |
WilliamMays
Stuffs Inc.
8
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:17:00 -
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You're forgetting hidden belts, which were a nice addition. However, those belts could use some fine tuning.
Aside from that, you're 100% correct. It's as if ccp sees people mining, and think mining must be all good to go. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6457
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:20:00 -
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Miners are a large part of hate? What? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Darth Gustav
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
536
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:21:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Miners of EVE are the joke of the game.
Not our fault they keep shiptoasting threads like this one and perpetuating themselves as the proverbial punchlines.
Do you get it yet? It's not the mining that embitters us to you. It's the mewling.
He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3688
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:21:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Why - if it is a profession of EVE does CCP do nothing but neglect it and allow miners in EVE to become the brunt of hate. If it weren't for players willing to sit and perform what many consider the most boring aspect ever conceived in a game - this game wouldn't exist. Ore is everything in this game. It is used to make all the ships that people just feel the need to constantly destroy.
The last real effort CCP made to mining was when they introduced hulks and that was 6 years ago! Six years and mining has seen little to no changes since then.
Miners of EVE are the joke of the game. Isn't it time for CCP to either just remove that aspect from the game or fix it? When will the mining profession become a viable and as important of a profession as grief ganking seems to have become?
CP just massively buffed mining. Mining income has literally doubled in the last 2 months. That's probably the single largest buff any profession has recieved since at least 2006. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Riyal
Chode Extravaganza
27
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:21:00 -
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People that complain about getting run over, whilst standing in the middle of the road, are never going to command a lot of respect. |
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Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
150
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:22:00 -
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OP is a miner, is terrible at it, and is the brunt of other player's hate for whining. +1 in local |
WilliamMays
Stuffs Inc.
8
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:24:00 -
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Riyal wrote:People that complain about getting run over, whilst standing in the middle of the road, are never going to command a lot of respect.
this would make sense, if the road didnt go thru our living room.... |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
246
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:24:00 -
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Just guess but for the most part mining isn't broke, and has worked well or the players made it work.
Also those who complain the loudest get the most changes. And well there is no denying the loudest cry babies in the game by far are the PvP crowd. What was it last year people were throwing a tantrum and quitting cause they didn't get a PvP aspect of the game changed.
So changes to mining may come eventually but as CCP isn't being threatened, when they come, 9 out of 10 they will most likely be good changes and won't need to get reworked every year like the PvP side.
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Luis Graca
11
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:27:00 -
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Miner is a profession in game and if miners would think a little bit (it's not need much think just a little is enough) they would also benefit from this.
But seems to be better post in forum then to take advantage of the situation |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1805
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:45:00 -
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WilliamMays wrote:Riyal wrote:People that complain about getting run over, whilst standing in the middle of the road, are never going to command a lot of respect. this would make sense, if the road didnt go thru our living room....
Perhaps you shouldn't build houses over existing roads then.
Just as you shouldn't use the most expensive mining vessel avaiilable to AFK mine, with the most vulnerable fittings possible, in congested area's where it is difficult to see hostiles entering system with you. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Fredfredbug4
The Scope Gallente Federation
286
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Posted - 2012.05.07 20:50:00 -
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What more could you possibly add to a profession that consists of shooting rocks with lasers?
Mining needs to be completely re done. Simply adding onto it in the current form won't accomplish anything. |
Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
1018
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:05:00 -
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Maybe the problem isn't mining...maybe multiboxing is the problem. Many miners multibox a small armada of mining alts- that's why they don't want mining to be more interactive and less boring. Without multiboxing, we could have an actually enjoyable mining system. Even if CCP didn't change a thing, many miners would actually enjoy watching local + Dscan to avoid ganks, because that would keep them busy. Without multiboxing, there would be no more falcon alts, no offgrid booster alts, no war-immune npc corp freighter alts....New Eden would be the new Utopia.
-.- |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:06:00 -
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You target a rock and turn on your laser. I mean c'mon ****. I suppose if you really wanted to be 'pro' and feel like you're doing something enjoyable you could have 'ops' where several of you target a rock and turn on your laser. How the hell are you supposed to spice that up??
Liquor and nudity is about the only thing that would help. OR some explosions. . |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
145
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:11:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Why - if it is a profession of EVE does CCP do nothing but neglect it and allow miners in EVE to become the brunt of hate. If it weren't for players willing to sit and perform what many consider the most boring aspect ever conceived in a game - this game wouldn't exist. Ore is everything in this game. It is used to make all the ships that people just feel the need to constantly destroy.
The last real effort CCP made to mining was when they introduced hulks and that was 6 years ago! Six years and mining has seen little to no changes since then.
Miners of EVE are the joke of the game. Isn't it time for CCP to either just remove that aspect from the game or fix it? When will the mining profession become a viable and as important of a profession as grief ganking seems to have become?
Because the null ppl need someone to veat on when they get bored in null
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
seany1212
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
160
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:14:00 -
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For every one of these threads I see I laugh a little bit more, for every miner that threatens to quit as a result, for the ones that ACTUALLY do it, the other miners get a fraction richer at the fact that the whiney ragequitting miners minerals aren't hitting the market, keep quitting, while there is players in this game there will always be someone willing to put the grind in to make the isk
Also, TANK YO SHEET |
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SpaceSquirrels
278
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:15:00 -
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probably because the change to make it interesting would be just a complete 180 from what it is now. That's huge. You risk alienating a fair amount of the population, if you make it less afkable, but possibly "OP"/easy money if you make it like PI.
I think it's like a lot of political issues that people know need to be addressed, but suicide to do so. The only option is to ignore it and change the subject. |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
154
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:16:00 -
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There is nothing wrong with the miners so there is nothing to fix On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Draconyx
Oort Cloud Industries The OORT Cloud
3
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:17:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:You target a rock and turn on your laser. I mean c'mon ****. I suppose if you really wanted to be 'pro' and feel like you're doing something enjoyable you could have 'ops' where several of you target a rock and turn on your laser. How the hell are you supposed to spice that up??
Liquor and nudity is about the only thing that would help. OR some explosions.
Hmmm sounds vaguely familiar, you might want to talk to Wildy Inappropriate and ask Snowman to dance for you.
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Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
145
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:19:00 -
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seany1212 wrote:For every one of these threads I see I laugh a little bit more, for every miner that threatens to quit as a result, for the ones that ACTUALLY do it, the other miners get a fraction richer at the fact that the whiney ragequitting miners minerals aren't hitting the market, keep quitting, while there is players in this game there will always be someone willing to put the grind in to make the isk Also, TANK YO SHEET EDIT: Also, Also, what malcanis said...
malcanis alt detected
also cause ccp totally isnt known for making wide ranging knee jerk reactions
especially when subs dip
*hint summer
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
617
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:22:00 -
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Draconyx wrote:No More Heroes wrote:You target a rock and turn on your laser. I mean c'mon ****. I suppose if you really wanted to be 'pro' and feel like you're doing something enjoyable you could have 'ops' where several of you target a rock and turn on your laser. How the hell are you supposed to spice that up??
Liquor and nudity is about the only thing that would help. OR some explosions. Hmmm sounds vaguely familiar, you might want to talk to Wildy Inappropriate and ask Snowman to dance for you. Or better yet, you can target a POS and turn on your Large Pulse Laser.
Oh wait...
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
3691
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:37:00 -
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Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:seany1212 wrote:For every one of these threads I see I laugh a little bit more, for every miner that threatens to quit as a result, for the ones that ACTUALLY do it, the other miners get a fraction richer at the fact that the whiney ragequitting miners minerals aren't hitting the market, keep quitting, while there is players in this game there will always be someone willing to put the grind in to make the isk Also, TANK YO SHEET EDIT: Also, Also, what malcanis said... malcanis alt detected
I only post on Malcanis
(I posted on Pheusia for a couple of weeks while this account was unsubbed)
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Shian Yang
83
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:42:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote: If it weren't for players willing to sit and perform what many consider the most boring aspect ever conceived in a game - this game wouldn't exist. Ore is everything in this game. It is used to make all the ships that people just feel the need to constantly destroy.
Greetings capsuleer,
You and those that think like you are welcome to stop mining. This will allow those that mine in groups, fit properly and can properly defend their operations the opportunity to make more profit and they will readily step up to fill the void you left.
You can also think of it this way. The attempts on a miners' ship gives them an interactive, engaging activity in New Eden. There is no need for CCP to step in as other players are already providing that opportunity for them. They simply need to get away from the mindset of being solo and should do so in packs with security and so forth.
Engage with New Eden, don't look the other way and hope it won't notice you.
Regards,
Shian Yang |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1806
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:44:00 -
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CCP could change the mining mechanics to be as entertaining as a well oiled hooker and half the EVE population would still have a melt down over it. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Minabunny
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:45:00 -
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mining is not a ccp priority and never will be. |
seany1212
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
160
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Posted - 2012.05.07 21:51:00 -
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Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:seany1212 wrote:For every one of these threads I see I laugh a little bit more, for every miner that threatens to quit as a result, for the ones that ACTUALLY do it, the other miners get a fraction richer at the fact that the whiney ragequitting miners minerals aren't hitting the market, keep quitting, while there is players in this game there will always be someone willing to put the grind in to make the isk Also, TANK YO SHEET EDIT: Also, Also, what malcanis said... malcanis alt detected also cause ccp totally isnt known for making wide ranging knee jerk reactions especially when subs dip *hint summer
Just because you sit behind an alt doesn't mean I have to
Except there is a difference between actually breaking a game in the direction they were going compared to a minority crying on the forums (like there always is) |
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