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Vas Vadum
Wormhole Physics
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Posted - 2012.05.08 19:42:00 -
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Excuse me CCP, I don't mean any of this topic in a rude way, I just didn't want you taking this topic badly in any way as sometimes without knowing so, I type things and someone takes it the wrong way.
I just had a discussion with friends in game and pointed out a few facts and figured we could put it up for discussion more publicly. Likely, this could increase the number of people buying larger amounts of plex at once instead of buying one at a time.
Vas on his Fun Facts page wrote:PLEX costs SOMEONE $19.95, this is the only way to get PLEX into the game. One PLEX gives you 30 days of game time. Subscriptions for 1 month at a time cost $14.95. This also gives you 30 days of game time. Subscription for 3 months is $38.85. 3 PLEX costs someone... (1 at a time: $59.85) [6 PLEX divided by 2: $52.49] {28 PLEX divided by 9.33~ : $52.49} Subscription for 6 months is $71.70. 6 PLEX costs someone.... (1 at a time: $119.70) [6 PLEX package: $104.97] {28 PLEX divided by 4.66~ : $104.97} Subscription for 1 year is $131.40. 12 PLEX costs someone..... (1 at a time: $239.40) [12 PLEX package: $209.94] {28 PLEX divided by 2.33~ : $209.94} PLEX costs $19.95 each. 28 individually bought PLEX is $558.6. Buying 28 PLEX, each PLEX's value is $17.495. Best PLEX value is $17.50, Subscription 1 month $14.95. Best subscription monthly value is $10.95. Now. If you thought PLEX was free, you are dead wrong. It ends up costing a lot more for the people who buy it. But at least you yourself get to play free. So CCP wants more players to play for free. They make more money this way!
Fun Fact Page: https://sites.google.com/site/sangyvas/eveonline/funfacts Fun Facts Short URL: http://tinyurl.com/vasfunfacts
I wish EVE posts could have color. >.>
CCP: If this is somehow against the rules please let me know and I'll remove my post, and maybe even the info on the fun fact page. It's all publicly available information anyway though so I don't see it as against the rules. Just someone has to do the calculations to get the accurate info. |
Danfen Fenix
Vita Aequitas Veritas The Paganism Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.08 19:43:00 -
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Duh, they are a business after all |
Tillin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.08 19:45:00 -
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So I play for free by buying up PLEX with scammed isk from some dumb pubbie... And some other dumb pubbie wastes extra real life cash on buying overpirced PLEX for me to buy with the stolen isk I acquired from his dumb pubbie brethren?
Win. Win. |
Vas Vadum
Wormhole Physics
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Posted - 2012.05.08 19:46:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:Duh, they are a business after all I figured someone would still have some more input on this and for others who didn't know could find this interesting and helpful in their decisions. AKA if someone's gonna buy PLEX to sell, they may just want to buy more than 1 at a time.
As you can see on my page I have it semi colorized and stuff for better look. |
Tillin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.08 19:50:00 -
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Vas Vadum wrote: Pretty much.
So... Working As Intended.
Oh and on a completely unrelated topic... I feel that a guy with your head for numbers could be a real asset to Goonswarm. Get in touch and we'll discuss your application. |
Vas Vadum
Wormhole Physics
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:05:00 -
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I post a relatively thought out topic of gathered data and math and still no likes? Pfft! :P
CCP, I know you can't technically say anything about such stuff but if you see the topic, would you care to tell me if I am right? Would you rather have people play free with the PLEX method or subscribe instead? |
Romar Agent
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:09:00 -
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Tillin Sylph wrote:So I play for free by buying up PLEX with scammed isk from some dumb pubbie... And some other dumb pubbie wastes extra real life cash on buying overpirced PLEX for me to buy with the stolen isk I acquired from his dumb pubbie brethren?
Win. Win. See, CCP is like public welfare. Bringing together those who cannot afford their games without help and those who won't break a sweat paying for two.
So... Working As Intended. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:14:00 -
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Every PLEX I have ever bought from the market has always cost me less than any of the destroyers I sell.
That's all I care about.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
630
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:22:00 -
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Vas Vadum wrote:I post a relatively thought out topic of gathered data and math and still no likes? Pfft! :P
CCP, I know you can't technically say anything about such stuff but if you see the topic, would you care to tell me if I am right? Would you rather have people play free with the PLEX method or subscribe instead? There was discussion earlier about how CCP's finance section might be conservative (discounting more highly) future plex sales as opposed to future subscription money.
Depending on what you believe, the relative discount you receive on the sub might be correlated to their discount on future plex sales, as forecast from past plex sales. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
630
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:23:00 -
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Romar Agent wrote:Tillin Sylph wrote:So I play for free by buying up PLEX with scammed isk from some dumb pubbie... And some other dumb pubbie wastes extra real life cash on buying overpirced PLEX for me to buy with the stolen isk I acquired from his dumb pubbie brethren?
Win. Win. See, CCP is like public welfare. Bringing together those who cannot afford their games without help and those who won't break a sweat paying for two. So... Working As Intended. To each according to their need, from each according to their ability !
Ie: From the idiot according to their excessive isk to sense ratio, to you according to your game time need !! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Testerxnot Sheepherder
Treasures Collectors
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:31:00 -
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This is nothing but a good thing, not only does CCP get their deserved profit, but I can - as an individual - play for free.
The only thing needed to keep this going is of course the people buying PLEX for real money. |
MotherMoon
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:32:00 -
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Danfen Fenix wrote:Duh, they are a business after all
WHAT?! |
Sirinda
Lead Farmers Academy Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.05.08 20:39:00 -
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OH NOES! THEY'RE TRYING TO TURN A PROFIT! *gasp*
Seriously OP, biomass yourself.
0/10
EDIT: If this is not a troll I don't know what is. |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.08 21:00:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Romar Agent wrote:Tillin Sylph wrote:So I play for free by buying up PLEX with scammed isk from some dumb pubbie... And some other dumb pubbie wastes extra real life cash on buying overpirced PLEX for me to buy with the stolen isk I acquired from his dumb pubbie brethren?
Win. Win. See, CCP is like public welfare. Bringing together those who cannot afford their games without help and those who won't break a sweat paying for two. So... Working As Intended. To each according to their need, from each according to their ability ! Ie: From the idiot according to their excessive isk to sense ratio, to you according to your game time need !!
Scammers of all corporations, Unite!
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.05.08 21:14:00 -
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OP, if you're not trolling your post certainly sounds like one due to its title.
What you say is true. CCP makes more money from PLEX sales than from regular subs. Otherwise, there would be no point in ever getting a regular sub over PLEX. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2012.05.08 21:32:00 -
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There are three types of math. Absolute, government and corporate.
One makes sense from a realistic standpoint and the other two are whatever the entity stating it as fact wants it to be. So if CCP, for instance, says you are saving money by giving it to them, then you are. It's only in school that you learn saving means not giving money away. And who cares about school. Those theories are so old fashioned.
Mr Epeen Me too!-á I ate one sour, too! |
Vas Vadum
Wormhole Physics
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:39:00 -
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Sirinda wrote:OH NOES! THEY'RE TRYING TO TURN A PROFIT! *gasp*
Seriously OP, biomass yourself.
0/10
EDIT: If this is not a troll I don't know what is.
This is not troll. I do not troll. Just because you only read the title does not make the rest of the topic trolling. I was stating a fact, because some people did not understand that CCP actually makes more money on PLEX than they do with subs. Some of my friends thought PLEX was a part of the game that CCP added in, they did not know someone somewhere else in the world buys this plex to put it in the game. So I collected some data to show that PLEXing is keeping this game more alive and to help some users make decisions like buying more than one plex at once to sell if they are planning to sell plex regularly as it'll be cheaper for them in the long run.
I do not troll, please remember that.
Petrus Blackshell wrote:OP, if you're not trolling your post certainly sounds like one due to its title.
I am sorry this sounds like trolling in some way, I did not mean for it to sound trollish. |
Shian Yang
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:44:00 -
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Vas Vadum wrote:I am sorry this sounds like trolling in some way, I did not mean for it to sound trollish.
Greetings capsuleer,
I can see you did not intend for it to sound as if you were deliberately attempting to provoke a response. However, what you have "outed" is reasonably common knowledge to anyone with a basic familiarity of New Eden and how pilot licensing is handled. I suspect this is why you have been labelled as a "troll" with the post, even though it was not intended as such.
For reference, I purchase my licenses in six packs.
Regards,
Shian Yang |
Torneach
Emrys Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:45:00 -
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Do you hate Cartoon network too? |
Vas Vadum
Wormhole Physics
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:50:00 -
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Shian Yang wrote:Vas Vadum wrote:I am sorry this sounds like trolling in some way, I did not mean for it to sound trollish. Greetings capsuleer, I can see you did not intend for it to sound as if you were deliberately attempting to provoke a response. However, what you have " outed" is reasonably common knowledge to anyone with a basic familiarity of New Eden and how pilot licensing is handled. I suspect this is why you have been labelled as a "troll" with the post, even though it was not intended as such. For reference, I purchase my licenses in six packs. Regards, Shian Yang
It could also be a part of my Aspergers, I am bad with writing things sometimes and some people get the wrong impression from me. I know some people did not know this information and I collected it so it would be here on the forums for others to find out. Since PLEX and Sub prices never change, I shouldn't ever need to update the calculations.
That page and your post looks like it's made of troll. The forum is intended to be a friendly community to discuss topics of interest. Please remember that. |
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Torneach
Emrys Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.05.09 01:59:00 -
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Vas Vadum wrote:That page and your post looks like it's made of troll. The forum is intended to be a friendly community to discuss topics of interest. Please remember that.
Jokes. Have you heard of them?
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Shian Yang
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Posted - 2012.05.09 02:13:00 -
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Vas Vadum wrote:That page and your post looks like it's made of troll. The forum is intended to be a friendly community to discuss topics of interest. Please remember that.
Greetings capsuleer Vadum,
It would behoove me to point out the forums are to null-sec what Hulkagedon is to high-sec. It is not meant to be thus, but it is. Still, once you have scratched past the rampant idiocy there are some good discussions to be found.
Regards,
Shian Yang |
Mugged Yougot
NorCorp Security AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2012.05.09 02:27:00 -
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"What is this sorcery? I've spent all my money on PLEX instead of buying gametime directly! I demand justice, free playtime and all of CCPs firstborn children.. Om nom nom!" or was there something else you wanted to enlighten us about? I'm not sure if you are just stating the obvious, or if you are trying to reinvent the concept of the wheel here.. If you start being more direct with your approach of different things and cookies, I think less people will misunderstand you. ?
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Katalci
Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp
73
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Posted - 2012.05.09 03:34:00 -
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Guys CCP is LYING TO US THE PLEX AREN'T FREE
SOMEONE BUYS THEM OH MY GOD |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
119
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Posted - 2012.05.09 03:37:00 -
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I really liked the way you put "free" in quotes, like it is somehow not free for the people buying PLEX.
Buying PLEX costs more because you don't get the 'subscriber' discount that you get for putting a credit card in and letting them suck at your financial teat until you are a shrivelled up husk that does nothing but work and play eve.
Regardless, the people who buy plex with isk are happy because for them it really is free. The people that sell plex for isk are happy because they can buy their new gold plated space boat. CCP are happy because everyone else is happy.
In fact, the only person who isn't happy here is you OP. Why don't you buy a gold plated space boat, it might make you feel better.
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2012.05.09 04:00:00 -
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It's free market supply and demand.
Demand : There will always be people who's willing to pay RL cash for a quick injection of ingame isk. CCP gave them a legit option through PLEXes/GTCs. They don't have to be necessarily rich, as you can calculate the time you need to make x amount of isk (ingame) versus time spent to make a RL income.
Supply: There will always be people who has plenty of free time or game skill/knowledge that makes lots of isk ingame (through various means). They have the option to subcribe directly, but I think most would prefer to maintain their (multiple) accounts through PLEXes/GTCs.
Direct pre-paid 1-year subscription will always be cheapest option, it's not really a secret or anything.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
640
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Posted - 2012.05.09 04:01:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Why don't you buy a gold plated space boat, it might make you feel better. But rifters aren't gold plated, they are rust-covered...
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Mugged Yougot
NorCorp Security AAA Citizens
17
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Posted - 2012.05.09 10:43:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Why don't you buy a gold plated space boat, it might make you feel better. But rifters aren't gold plated, they are rust-covered... That's where you guys come in! I've heard Goon Swarm give all their members gold plated space yachts.. OP should catch a bargain and apply to you asap, before you run out of gold! |
malaire
402
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Posted - 2012.05.09 11:24:00 -
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Old news.
PLEX costs more than gametime because it has added benefit that it can be sold ingame for ISK. Buying PLEX just to get gametime is bad idea.
Also, only single PLEX costs 19.95. If you buy at least 2 it will cost 17.495 each, so buying 28 has exactly same per-PLEX price as buying just 2. (Except when they have special offers.)
New to EVE? Don't forget to read: The Manual * The Wiki * The Career Options * and everything else |
Halete
Teraa Matar White-Lotus
118
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Posted - 2012.05.09 11:37:00 -
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So, let me get this straight...
For PLEX to get into the game...
Someone has to buy the PLEX?
Well this is n--- what was the point of this thread again? Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. |
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