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DP Mephisto
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Posted - 2004.09.04 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: DP Mephisto on 04/09/2004 10:24:02 Edited by: DP Mephisto on 04/09/2004 10:23:30 Hi all, Since the other thread was kind of full I decided to make a fresh one.
My latest map can always be found on the following link: Latest version. Thanks eve-guardian.
All of my previous maps can be seen at the historical map. section.
Note: This map needs input to stay updated.
Input can be described as:
- A new hotspot system ( Who vs Who, where )
- A hotspot system that isnÆt a hotspot anymore
- A new alliance
- A new peace treaty
- A new found NAP
- A new found war (between alliances)
- Extending alliance territory
Input can be given in the following four ways:
- [email protected]
- Ingame mail towards DP Mephisto
- A weekly discussion at channel ôalliancemapö, every Friday from 1700 till 1800 Eve time. I would like to invite everyone from any alliance to get a realistic image of the current situation.
- A reply on this thread.
I would like to keep this thread constructive. Help to keep it up-to-date !
Note to forum moderator(s): Would it be possible to keep my thread clean the same way its done with Quarath thread ?
Greetz, DP Mephisto
Eve-Concepts: Player vs player action trough the agent system
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DP Mephisto
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Posted - 2004.09.04 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: DP Mephisto on 04/09/2004 10:24:02 Edited by: DP Mephisto on 04/09/2004 10:23:30 Hi all, Since the other thread was kind of full I decided to make a fresh one.
My latest map can always be found on the following link: Latest version. Thanks eve-guardian.
All of my previous maps can be seen at the historical map. section.
Note: This map needs input to stay updated.
Input can be described as:
- A new hotspot system ( Who vs Who, where )
- A hotspot system that isnÆt a hotspot anymore
- A new alliance
- A new peace treaty
- A new found NAP
- A new found war (between alliances)
- Extending alliance territory
Input can be given in the following four ways:
- [email protected]
- Ingame mail towards DP Mephisto
- A weekly discussion at channel ôalliancemapö, every Friday from 1700 till 1800 Eve time. I would like to invite everyone from any alliance to get a realistic image of the current situation.
- A reply on this thread.
I would like to keep this thread constructive. Help to keep it up-to-date !
Note to forum moderator(s): Would it be possible to keep my thread clean the same way its done with Quarath thread ?
Greetz, DP Mephisto
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DP Mephisto
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Posted - 2004.09.04 10:52:00 -
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The eve guardian seems to be offline at the moment, excuses for that. I hope it will be back online soon Eve-Concepts: Player vs player action trough the agent system
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DP Mephisto
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Posted - 2004.09.04 10:52:00 -
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The eve guardian seems to be offline at the moment, excuses for that. I hope it will be back online soon Eve-Concepts: Player vs player action trough the agent system
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DP Mephisto
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:02:00 -
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Koval keep it constructive. Your reply has nothing to do with my thread. And if you think my map hasnÆt got anything to do with the real situation, then convince me to up-date trough constructive arguments.
I would be the last one to flame anyone but, I donÆt like you!
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DP Mephisto
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:02:00 -
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Koval keep it constructive. Your reply has nothing to do with my thread. And if you think my map hasnÆt got anything to do with the real situation, then convince me to up-date trough constructive arguments.
I would be the last one to flame anyone but, I donÆt like you!
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:14:00 -
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What I got when I clicked the link had seriously nothing to do with the real situation.
At least I was of the impression that there was no alliance called 'The connection was refused while trying to connect www.eveguardian.com' holding all of EVE last I checked.
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Shirei
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:14:00 -
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What I got when I clicked the link had seriously nothing to do with the real situation.
At least I was of the impression that there was no alliance called 'The connection was refused while trying to connect www.eveguardian.com' holding all of EVE last I checked.
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DP Mephisto
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:17:00 -
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Lol, yea again sorry Eve-Concepts: Player vs player action trough the agent system
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DP Mephisto
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:17:00 -
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Lol, yea again sorry Eve-Concepts: Player vs player action trough the agent system
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:18:00 -
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Well there is a simple equation at play here: chaps that spend a little time and effort producing maps and political assessment to inform novice pilots of the realities of 0.0 space travel = positive impact on the community of pilots.
Whereas, chaps that simply knock everything and post unhelpful negative comments with knee jerk repetitive monotones = waste of everyone's time.
If the PA (or any other reactionary mineral cartel-based alliance) don't like DP Mephisto's map then you could either do as he suggests and bring some debate and facts to support your point of view or:
(and here's a crazy thought)
You could present your own map!
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:18:00 -
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Well there is a simple equation at play here: chaps that spend a little time and effort producing maps and political assessment to inform novice pilots of the realities of 0.0 space travel = positive impact on the community of pilots.
Whereas, chaps that simply knock everything and post unhelpful negative comments with knee jerk repetitive monotones = waste of everyone's time.
If the PA (or any other reactionary mineral cartel-based alliance) don't like DP Mephisto's map then you could either do as he suggests and bring some debate and facts to support your point of view or:
(and here's a crazy thought)
You could present your own map!
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Koval
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:20:00 -
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ok, remove your claims to branch/tenal and mark tenal, branch, deklein, fade as warzone with pa, this war is not over yet and u can't change it everytime when there is a movement. We killed 6 SOL battleships in tenal since yesterday with no losses, and we keep it under control atm. You are the side in this conflict, so it's simple u wanna use your work against PA, but if u want this thread clean, be professional.
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Koval
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:20:00 -
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ok, remove your claims to branch/tenal and mark tenal, branch, deklein, fade as warzone with pa, this war is not over yet and u can't change it everytime when there is a movement. We killed 6 SOL battleships in tenal since yesterday with no losses, and we keep it under control atm. You are the side in this conflict, so it's simple u wanna use your work against PA, but if u want this thread clean, be professional.
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Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 04/09/2004 11:29:26
Originally by: Jade Constantine You could present your own map!
That or we could simply accept that Quaraths map is the best map around which seems to be more accurate...
Or so it seems.... ---------------------------
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Barth3zzzNL
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Barth3zzzNL on 04/09/2004 11:29:26
Originally by: Jade Constantine You could present your own map!
That or we could simply accept that Quaraths map is the best map around which seems to be more accurate...
Or so it seems.... ---------------------------
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TRIGGER
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:25:00 -
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as always dp , a nice job , and certainly the only map i ever trust
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TRIGGER
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:25:00 -
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as always dp , a nice job , and certainly the only map i ever trust
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Koval ok, remove your claims to branch/tenal and mark tenal, branch, deklein, fade as warzone with pa, this war is not over yet and u can't change it everytime when there is a movement. We killed 6 SOL battleships in tenal since yesterday with no losses, and we keep it under control atm. You are the side in this conflict, so it's simple u wanna use your work against PA, but if u want this thread clean, be professional.
Umm but Halseth annouced you were dropping your claims to Branch and Tenal. Are you breaking your leaders word by sneak attacking into Tenal after Halseth proclaimed you were surrendering that region? Thats a bit low even for the PA!
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Koval ok, remove your claims to branch/tenal and mark tenal, branch, deklein, fade as warzone with pa, this war is not over yet and u can't change it everytime when there is a movement. We killed 6 SOL battleships in tenal since yesterday with no losses, and we keep it under control atm. You are the side in this conflict, so it's simple u wanna use your work against PA, but if u want this thread clean, be professional.
Umm but Halseth annouced you were dropping your claims to Branch and Tenal. Are you breaking your leaders word by sneak attacking into Tenal after Halseth proclaimed you were surrendering that region? Thats a bit low even for the PA!
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Koval
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:32:00 -
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i remember he announced we're pulling back from bkg to attack fade and deklein, it has nothing to do with dropping claims
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Koval
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:32:00 -
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i remember he announced we're pulling back from bkg to attack fade and deklein, it has nothing to do with dropping claims
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DP Mephisto
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:33:00 -
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Barth3zzzNL, nice to see you put so much research in you post, if you go back on this forum long enough u will see I am not riding on his pride.
Multiple people made maps earlier on in the game. Nobody is riding anyoneÆs pride having multiple maps at the same time will maybe show some differences, but itÆs the amount of effort the map maker is willing to put into it, to make the difference.
As answer on Koval somehow more constructive reply: make those attacks happen more often and I will change the way SOL and PA are shown.
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DP Mephisto
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:33:00 -
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Barth3zzzNL, nice to see you put so much research in you post, if you go back on this forum long enough u will see I am not riding on his pride.
Multiple people made maps earlier on in the game. Nobody is riding anyoneÆs pride having multiple maps at the same time will maybe show some differences, but itÆs the amount of effort the map maker is willing to put into it, to make the difference.
As answer on Koval somehow more constructive reply: make those attacks happen more often and I will change the way SOL and PA are shown.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 04/09/2004 11:39:05 hmm, i made a map once....
trusty old paint, who needs all the technical stuff when u have paint?!?
...it was a mess
anyway back to topic: hope EG is up soon.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 04/09/2004 11:39:05 hmm, i made a map once....
trusty old paint, who needs all the technical stuff when u have paint?!?
...it was a mess
anyway back to topic: hope EG is up soon.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Koval i remember he announced we're pulling back from bkg to attack fade and deklein, it has nothing to do with dropping claims
Yes Koval, but routed military leaders always announce retreats in such terms. "We concentrate on other fronts!" "Now is the time to consolidate at home" "This theatre is no longer a priority" etc etc, its just coded language for "we were wtfpwned and need to safespot in strategic terms".
Everyone knows that Koval, the art of political analysis (and mapmaking) is reading between the lines and interpreting what the leaders "mean" (not simply rote-copying down what they say).
Halseth has a job to do at this twilight time for the Pheonix Alliance and it involves selling his own people a diet of pleasing lies while preparing the ground for some kind of universal pullout/surrender. In order to get the best terms possible he feels he must present the PA as some kind of military threat hence talking up the capabilities and potentials of your fleet is his stock in trade.
I don't neccessarily condemn the chap for that (it is after the function of his position) but you would be foolish to believe it all at face value.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Koval i remember he announced we're pulling back from bkg to attack fade and deklein, it has nothing to do with dropping claims
Yes Koval, but routed military leaders always announce retreats in such terms. "We concentrate on other fronts!" "Now is the time to consolidate at home" "This theatre is no longer a priority" etc etc, its just coded language for "we were wtfpwned and need to safespot in strategic terms".
Everyone knows that Koval, the art of political analysis (and mapmaking) is reading between the lines and interpreting what the leaders "mean" (not simply rote-copying down what they say).
Halseth has a job to do at this twilight time for the Pheonix Alliance and it involves selling his own people a diet of pleasing lies while preparing the ground for some kind of universal pullout/surrender. In order to get the best terms possible he feels he must present the PA as some kind of military threat hence talking up the capabilities and potentials of your fleet is his stock in trade.
I don't neccessarily condemn the chap for that (it is after the function of his position) but you would be foolish to believe it all at face value.
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Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:57:00 -
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Keep up the cartography DP Mephisto.
Dont let the "do nothing moaners" get you down, presumably mummy took their crayons away and they cant draw their own maps.
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Omega Man
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:57:00 -
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Keep up the cartography DP Mephisto.
Dont let the "do nothing moaners" get you down, presumably mummy took their crayons away and they cant draw their own maps.
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