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The Sinister
House of Templars Knight's of the Black Sun
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:57:00 -
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Its simple mechanics:
1. Invite to Duel tab.
2. Duel accept window with the traditional advise.
3. Both duelers lockdown (Cant be targetted by any other players during Duel).
4. A 15 minute timer (In case non of the duelers cant break each others tank, after 15 minutes Flag goes down).
5. Finally a green wreck only lootable by Duel winner. |
The Sinister
House of Templars Knight's of the Black Sun
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:58:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:The Sinister wrote:In this game there should be a way to demostrate who is the better pilot, but the truth is that it dosnt exist. Success in Eve Online is measured by how many friends you have by your side rather than how good a pilot you are. I just would like to see a way for single pilot to be measured against another pilot in a fair way, but to be honest i dont see it happening. All i can see is people afraid of the idea that 1 pilot can demostrate that he is better than You under same circunstances. Welcome to EVE-Online, internet spaceship MMORPG. You seem to be new here.
Been Playing since 2003. |
Vladimir McSquizzle
Red Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.10 00:13:00 -
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EmpireOfDust wrote:Sandbox... Artificial restrictions **** it up. Also RanDOM capitalisation HELPS me get My point across. ^^ This |
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
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Posted - 2012.05.10 04:11:00 -
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The Sinister wrote: whats the point of playing Eve if u cant do it SOLO. I dont like depending on others to success.
Welcome to EVE, it's an MMO that you play on the internet with other people.
SLAPD - Star Scientist, I science stars |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
670
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Posted - 2012.05.10 07:45:00 -
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Schalac wrote:The Sinister wrote: And i think this is a fail suggestion. I agree with you.
I am also agree.
Every decent pilot respects agreed 1vs1s, maybe you should leave hisec .
In the beginning high security space was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Tysinger
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2012.05.10 08:13:00 -
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Dear OP...
You are a Fkn ******. |
Abbadon21
Cosmic Cimmerians The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2012.05.10 14:17:00 -
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Solo PVP is possible without a duel system, so are fair 1vs1's. I wrote an article about how to get a fair 1vs1 here: http://www.eveproguides.com/the-1vs1/
It's not 100% fool proof but most the time it works. Learn How PRO Players Make Billions of ISK and Dominate PVP: http://www.EVEProGuides.com |
Ava Starfire
Skadi's Call Defiant Legacy
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Posted - 2012.05.10 14:59:00 -
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The Sinister wrote:Well almost no one Honors a 1 vs 1 fight these days. Thy always have a Remote Repair gang on stand by and you never get a 1 vs 1 in the end. So i propose new mechanic that allows us to get a fair 1 vs 1 Fight. After all PVP stands for Player Vs Player and not Player Vs PlayerS. I want assurance that if i engage in a fight it will be only 1 vs 1 and no me vs many. And i think this is a fail suggestion.
Not sure if trolling or stupid. Or genius?
Edited, cause reading, its hard |
Abannan
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:03:00 -
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You wan't an assured wayof fighting people 1 v 1 with no interference or anything?
Wrong game mate |
Princess Nexxala
The Rock Hard Roosters Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:36:00 -
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Why are people always trying to ruin the sandbox?
Just no, learn to find 1v1 if that is what you are in to...its easy as hell. I especially enjoy forcing a 1v1 when the person expects to be saved by his blob. Stuff like that is what makes Eve so much fun.
There are plenty of crap WoW clones that can offer you structured PvP with rules...that doesn't belong in Eve. Is sexy time? |
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Dare Knight
The 0ffice of Secret Intelligence The 0ffice
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:41:00 -
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We do have a fair 1v1 system. It's fair until I kill you 1v1, then it's not fair anymore to you.
I can see it now. The big giant Duel Flag popping up in space with rock music kicking in to signify the duel. Can we get a PvP flag that we can toggle on and off, too? |
Idicious Lightbane
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:52:00 -
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The Sinister wrote:Its simple mechanics:
1. Invite to Duel tab.
2. Duel accept window with the traditional advise.
3. Both duelers lockdown (Cant be targetted by any other players during Duel).
4. A 15 minute timer (In case non of the duelers cant break each others tank, after 15 minutes Flag goes down).
5. Finally a green wreck only lootable by Duel winner.
I can already think of a multitude of ways this would be abused, people 'dueling' to get through gate camps, hell, an entire fleet could have dual buddies and if they are trapped/don't like the odds just form up duals and move past the enemy fleet with 0 risk, or if you are about to die form up a dual with your alt. Besides that people in high-sec 'dueling' 24/7 with their alt so that no-one can touch them, or in any space for that matter. It would mean absolute safety in high, low and nullsec whenever you want. You could fix some of these exploits but never all of them.
Besides that it's completely against the philosophy of the game, which is you are never safe anywhere.
If you want some 1v1's that are almost always honored try this:
1. Join Red vs Blue, they have a strict agreed upon 1vs1's must be honored rule, and will kick people from corp who break the rule.
2. Ask for a 1vs1 in a low-sec, if someone agrees, fleet up with them, and have it at your own safe spot. No-one can warp to him, if he drops fleet leave as he's warping his friends in, but that takes time.
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Cap James Tkirk
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.05.10 17:49:00 -
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i believe in WoW they have legal 1v1 so yaaaaaa |
The Sinister
House of Templars Knight's of the Black Sun
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:42:00 -
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This is what happens when u try to go PVP Solo.
Started fighting a drake with my Myrm in low sec and guess what happens next.
http://www.shadownetworks.org/eve/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=279
The reality of Eve is that for u to get a 1 vs 1 fight u need to be Verry ******* Lucky. |
The Sinister
House of Templars Knight's of the Black Sun
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:43:00 -
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Idicious Lightbane wrote:The Sinister wrote:Its simple mechanics:
1. Invite to Duel tab.
2. Duel accept window with the traditional advise.
3. Both duelers lockdown (Cant be targetted by any other players during Duel).
4. A 15 minute timer (In case non of the duelers cant break each others tank, after 15 minutes Flag goes down).
5. Finally a green wreck only lootable by Duel winner. I can already think of a multitude of ways this would be abused, people 'dueling' to get through gate camps, hell, an entire fleet could have dual buddies and if they are trapped/don't like the odds just form up duals and move past the enemy fleet with 0 risk, or if you are about to die form up a dual with your alt. Besides that people in high-sec 'dueling' 24/7 with their alt so that no-one can touch them, or in any space for that matter. It would mean absolute safety in high, low and nullsec whenever you want. You could fix some of these exploits but never all of them. Besides that it's completely against the philosophy of the game, which is you are never safe anywhere. If you want some 1v1's that are almost always honored try this: 1. Join Red vs Blue, they have a strict agreed upon 1vs1's must be honored rule, and will kick people from corp who break the rule. 2. Ask for a 1vs1 in a low-sec, if someone agrees, fleet up with them, and have it at your own safe spot. No-one can warp to him, if he drops fleet leave as he's warping his friends in, but that takes time. You can only Duel in empire (Hi SEC) mate and cant jump gates if in a duel either |
CATPAIN KIRK
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:46:00 -
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Cap James Tkirk wrote:i believe in WoW they have legal 1v1 so yaaaaaa
GO AWAY INPOSTER!
I liek the OP's idae, the OP is very smrt and experient. |
Dare Knight
The 0ffice of Secret Intelligence The 0ffice
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Posted - 2012.05.10 20:56:00 -
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CATPAIN KIRK wrote:Cap James Tkirk wrote:i believe in WoW they have legal 1v1 so yaaaaaa GO AWAY INPOSTER! I liek the OP's idae, the OP is very smrt and experient.
Can we get the STAR team in here? I think they need to propose basic spelling and grammar in the New Player Experience tutorials.
(Yes, I got the joke, and lol'd at work sitting at my desk) |
Lost Greybeard
Fenrir's Dogs of War Union 0f Revolution
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Posted - 2012.05.10 22:39:00 -
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The Sinister wrote:If it is a terrible idea then propose something Better. Something that brings 1 vs 1 PVP to game. and ill accept it
Join NPC corp. Both players drop something in a can. Both players steal from other player's can. Now you can shoot each other and no one else can step in without getting CONCORDed.
Wow, I can see how you couldn't figure that out, that was like imaginary vector calculus stacked on top of rocket surgery and not something even an idiot could come up with in three seconds or anything. |
Dare Knight
The 0ffice of Secret Intelligence The 0ffice
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Posted - 2012.05.10 23:16:00 -
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Lost Greybeard wrote:The Sinister wrote:If it is a terrible idea then propose something Better. Something that brings 1 vs 1 PVP to game. and ill accept it Join NPC corp. Both players drop something in a can. Both players steal from other player's can. Now you can shoot each other and no one else can step in without getting CONCORDed. Wow, I can see how you couldn't figure that out, that was like imaginary vector calculus stacked on top of rocket surgery and not something even an idiot could come up with in three seconds or anything.
Did you hear those trumpets playing worldwide just now?
Look at what you've done... |
StonerPhReaK
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2012.05.11 02:38:00 -
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1 vs 1 are(n)a already exists.
Sisi
Mods please lock this thread. |
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Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.11 02:49:00 -
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The Sinister wrote:If it is a terrible idea then propose something Better. Something that brings 1 vs 1 PVP to game. and ill accept it
1v1s are for tards and should never be brought to this game.
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
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Posted - 2012.05.11 03:43:00 -
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The Sinister wrote:If it is a terrible idea then propose something Better. Something that brings 1 vs 1 PVP to game. and ill accept it
Schalac has already given you the best answer possible.
Here tis again: Evemail Loren Gallen - He honors 1v1's. Others in his corp do too - I was informed that they get corp kick for dishonoring a 1v1 agreement.
I have had arranged fights with him in the past and it's good fun if you both have something big to brawl in. He smashed my Raven up into space dust and even though I lost my ship - It was some of the best fun i have had PvPing in eve.
Eve does not need a dedicated 1v1 mechanic as it would defeat the purpose of a sandbox game. Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Daphny Naarma
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.11 08:31:00 -
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Ofc OP's suggestion could be implemented without exploit: just make it a beacon (limited space pocket) in some of the bigger systems and restrict the "duels" to that area. No one that doesn't want to take part won't be disturbed and there will be no immortal miners. Those who want to duel go there and get happy, those who don't - no one is forcing them to warp there.
Making it global however, is indeed a terribad idea.
Either way, ccp already added wow instancing by "looking for guardian link achiev an geerscore" (read: Incursions), so if "Ogrimmar gates" were added, it's really no big deal. The impact on other players won't be nearly as big.
Wouldn't even be hard to defend this "lore wise". "Some of the major factions decided to set up designated recuperation areas for pilots to blow some steam blah blah...", or the likes.
And no, personally I don't really care. It only struck me that so many raged about it, when there is such an easy and non-invasive solution. |
Chimay
Next Era Dawn
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Posted - 2012.05.13 06:25:00 -
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The Sinister wrote:I strongly believe that a 1 vs 1 PVP system will make Game More FUN. Eve is a social game basicaly YOU cant do everything all by your self. And maybe just maybe if we had the chance to do this SOLO it would make EVE more interesting for new comers.
I love 1v1, hard to find and I like your suggestion. Most blob for ego protection so the idea in gerenal will be hated in the masses, but just know they are out there if you do a lot of hunting.
Edit: It should be fun reviewing the KB of the solo kills with worth from the people that may flame my response. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
694
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Posted - 2012.05.13 08:31:00 -
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No. Don't break the sandbox.
If you want stupid, meaningless dueling go to SiSi, or ask people for 1vs1s. Or just hunt people solo.
In the beginning high security space was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Axel Greye
Nova Ardour
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Posted - 2012.05.13 09:52:00 -
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all the people in this thread saying 1v1 does not exist are the people who are ruining the business for us legitimate 1v1ers. D:<
if you want a legitimate 1v1, find me in Dodixie. :D |
lanyaie
284
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Posted - 2012.05.13 10:37:00 -
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You can want whatever you feel like but you're not getting it. I dont post often, but when I do i'm probably trolling you |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.05.14 00:11:00 -
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This is eve, you dont get what you want. You get what you get.
wow is that way >>> Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
83
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Posted - 2012.05.14 00:19:00 -
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Guessing what happens next:
You never checked D-scan, you get pwnd by a gang.
You did check D-scan but did not consider the time it takes to kill a drake
You checked it, saw it was clear, engaged and never rechecked during the fight at all.
You died to being stupid.
Wanna see what happens when you solo pvp?
http://kb.eveaquila.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23190 http://kb.eveaquila.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23256 http://kb.eveaquila.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=22898 http://kb.eveaquila.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=22451 http://kb.eveaquila.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=22442
The problem with you is, you dont look. You take the first fight you see and just leeroy right into a situation where you can not win or escape, you are stupid, useless and most likely on my kb somewhere. My killboard is not impressive but its proof that solo pvp is about, as are 1v1's however most of the time expect them to bring friends, just learn to deal with it rather than derping 1 myrm and then going on the forums giving it nag nag nag i want 1v1's nag nag nag.
Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins Amarr 7th Fleet
2
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Posted - 2012.05.14 17:50:00 -
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Or you could just be polite and ask.
http://a7th.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13363731
http://a7th.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13360774
Both were good fights, nicely arranged 1v1. |
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