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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.09 17:18:00 -
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CCP Affinity wrote:We are still going through all the Incursion feedback and we share your concerns about the Incursion changes during the escalation patch. We are very interested in hearing your feedback and suggestions and will continue discussions with the Incursion Community.
We want to make sure we have all the feedback and time to discuss solutions with you all so we will aim to fix this in June or July - after Inferno.
After Inferno you are going to be swamped with Crimewatch problems if the Burn Jita fiasco's are any indicator. Looks like you'll be doing a post mortum on more then one community: I don't think you'll be getting any more feedback from the lo/NULL sec incursion comunitites they appear to have already died. I don't recall much more then a speck of blue in any lo/NULL SEC bar in the Journal. Has a single NULL SEC Incursion MOM site been completed? Be interesting to see what happens when an Incursion messes with an alliances bridges to see i they can bring it down quickly. CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.09 17:44:00 -
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CCP Affinity wrote: I have already been in talks with Ronin and Serge and quite a few other people within the community - it's been a really good learning experience for me :)
Please contact "Cozmic Cowboy" he's the leader of the loose Armor Community known as The Ditanian Fleet you seem to be only contacting the shield fleets. "Vily " used to be one of the Goons running the lo/NULL SEC incursions ( last I heard though Villy was put in charge of a bunch of fleets by Mittani so I sorta doubt he's the one still running it but can probably point you in the right direction) I think I may know 1 or 2 of the lo sec Incursion runners but they tend to keep quiet about it so I won't drop any names there. CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.09 21:28:00 -
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Levy Break wrote:
Also, incursions are comparable to wormholes without the commitment of going into a wormhole, I'm not sure if that's good or bad. Pre-patch wormhole dwellers made more, but it was all indirect through the sale of loot, which made incursioning look more profitable.
I tend to agree with the above but actually Wormhole NPC buy orders inject more ISK into Eve then Incursions. The wormhole PvE residents on top of that get the melted nano ribbons salvage which I am told generates more income then the NPC buy orders ( blue loot ) thier reward for the risk& pain of moving things out of W-Space. I've seen ccp diagoras provide statistics on the number of Incursion runners for a day in February (~1700) but I've never seen a statistic on the number of runners of sleeper sites. Many W-Space residents I'm told do gas mining too.
I understand that now more of the Incursion runners are in shield fleets but I have not heard of any contact with the armor fleets. Once again the main contact for the armour community is: https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Cozmic%20Cowboy CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.10 04:22:00 -
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Here's a link to to the original Incursion fixes feedback thread in GD: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=61055&p=1
There was ALOT of trolling & its diicult seperate the wheat from the chaff. There were some gems in there though. I honestly feel even though it was started by CCP Greyscale it was ignored in near totally by CCP DEVs.
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:03:00 -
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Aareya wrote:Herr Ronin wrote:Firstly i would like to say on how wrong you are, Incursions needed to be Nerfed, Are you aware that people made insane amount of isk per day, I will give you some Information about my Wallet regarding Incursions.
Herr Ronin's Wallet Review
Isk Per Hour: 130-160 Million
Hours Put In Each Day: 4-6 Hours
How Much Was I Earning: If i was lucky and Blitzing OTA wall's i would be earning : 700 - 900 Million Per Day.
Now you are telling us that CCP didn't need to Nerf Incursions, I think you need to look into the subject a bit more, I am aware that public fleets were not earning that much, Are you aware that there was many Blitzing community's like ISN, There was around five to seven of them, So calculate these community's running two Vanguard fleets 24/7 Ratting in Nullsec: 75-140 million per hour Yes, the ISK generation of high sec incursions needed to be nerfed. However, for lowsec/nullsec incursions, the ISK payout wasn't too far out-of-balance. Solo ratting is easy, can be done instantly with little coordination. Incursions in lowsec/nullsec require a certain # of participants, coordination, and the necessity to dedicate pilots for scouting, as these fleets attract PVP'ers looking to get expensive kills.
The truely INSANE null sec ratting done I beleive in the "Forsaken Hubs (?)" by super CAP Titans was netting 200-300 million an hour. NULL SEC ISK generation ( and W-Space ) dwarfed Incursions in many many areas CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:11:00 -
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Last night 3-5 hours before down time I was FCing a Vanguard fleet with 2-3 newcommers to Incursions. I DO NOT DARE BRING THEM INTO OTAs. To put it simply: THEY WOULD HAVE DIED. We had the situation once again that in the 4 Vanguard systems of the Amarr incursion was populated by 100% OTAs. I tried to get more logi so we could upgrade to an assault but the numbers were not there ( armor community has been MORE then decimated by the NERF ) I eneded up having to disband
CCP Affinity STACKING OF SITES is a real problem how about putting an exception in the system spawning code so that no Vanguard system becomes 100% OTA's, no Assault system becomes 100% NCN's, or no HQ system becomes 100% TCRC's, PLLLLLEEEEEAAASE CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.11 08:19:00 -
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Is it only anecdotal or are the amounts of unbsubs I'm hearing about over the nerf close to true? CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2012.05.12 11:27:00 -
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xVx dreadnaught wrote:Capitano Rivel wrote:Inucrsion Short-Term fix thread is evolving... dada dada daa daaa CONGRATULATIONS your Incursion Short-Term fix thread has evolved into high vs null sec trolling thread. http://mlfw.info/f/4753/ Well i gave several possible short term fixes as ideas and a more evolved long term expansion idea that they could use as a project for the future development of incursions... but I didn't get a comment on it from a Dev, I guess since I'm only a long time member of the incursion community, my opinion doesn't matter to CCP in a thread titled "Post-escalation Incursion Changes"
The total lack of responces/contact from CCP with the armor community is **** poor IMHO. If CCP is only going to talk to the shield community in HI SEC and let the rest of the communities die like it appears to have happened in lo/NULL SEC well shame of you CCP. Sorry CCP Affinity but just leaving this in the lap of a single CCP DEV to handle is just in my eyes a delaying tactic hoping things will blow over. CCP SoundWave's and his single thread with no replies followed by your thread there means IMHO that CCP is for the most part seeing if everything will just die down and they are out of touch too many game players.
I'll give it 1 more month I guess before I unsub for a bit in disgust CCP Soundwave "Incursions are not a big issue in terms of isk globally" |
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