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Eternum Praetorian
Malum Crusis
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:30:00 -
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From a petition
Quote: Players are permitted to join a corporation that is at war as long as they are docked or logged off. We see no indication of any exploit involved in this matter. If you have any other questions or problems, please let me know.
I also see no indication of an exploit when people join a corporation that is at war, when they are docked and logged off. However, I feel that, perhaps, my little query was misunderstood by CCP.
So allow me to clarify...
1.) A corp member/members are at war and are getting their spread wide with antimatter 2.) Said pilots/pilots exit corp so they can fly around empire freely with impunity 3.) They rejoin corp so they can gank a Golem running a mission.
Now is THAT an exploit? No. But.... it should not be a mechanic available to pilots who are at war. It suffices to say that a pilot should have a 24 hour cool down (or something) before they can reenter their corporation because I believe that such shenanigans are not in the spirit of EVE ONLINE and INFERNO's new "attempt at awesomeness".
CCP, should fix this with inferno... or shortly their after.
It would go a long way in terms of polishing off how wardecs are fought as a whole. It is just kind of lamesauce and it needs some looking into.
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masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
466
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:31:00 -
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Risk averse best averse?
You should feel pro, not fighting for your space nation. You're running from fights with the greatest of ease. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
652
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:46:00 -
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Think the wardec changes might prevent that? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Eternum Praetorian
Malum Crusis
779
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:47:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Think the wardec changes might prevent that?
Oh really? Do tell, I have not been keeping up with all the dev blogs.
[Edit] Oh you were actually asking, my bad. I miss read.
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Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
323
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:49:00 -
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24 hour cooldown for wardecced corps seems immensely reasonable. |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
467
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:50:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:24 hour cooldown for wardecced corps seems immensely reasonable.
No. It needs to be at least 72 hours. Both joining and leaving. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
968
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:52:00 -
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It is an outrage that CCP aren't introducing any war dec mechanics changes to inferno that address this very issue... OH WAIT THEY ARE.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:52:00 -
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Not sure if it's in the Inferno changes but a Dev did say they'd watch this activity and change it if need be when the original wardec changes were mentioned/discussed. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
652
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:52:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Elise DarkStar wrote:24 hour cooldown for wardecced corps seems immensely reasonable. No. It needs to be at least 72 hours. Both joining and leaving. Seems a bit harsh. Oh well. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Eternum Praetorian
Malum Crusis
779
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:54:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:It is an outrage that CCP aren't introducing any war dec mechanics changes to inferno that address this very issue... OH WAIT THEY ARE.
Thank you for your kind and well thoughtout reply. Can you please direct me to said information?
Man... I love being a part of this kind and inspiring community (wipes a tear from his Brutor eye)
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Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
647
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:56:00 -
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GTFO of highsec?
Problem solved, who cares about wardecs when they are not needed. You want to use them, then deal with the consequences of highsec shenanigans (like neutrol rep) or if used against you leave corp for NPC. Or leave highsec, where you don't encounter it. Every option works, except for a short timer (like 30 minutes) before you get accepted or leave a player corp the entire new mechanics are not even needed....like thos neutral reps where you could just leave the system or dock up, cause nothing says you have to take that kind of abuse. |
Eternum Praetorian
Malum Crusis
780
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Posted - 2012.05.09 22:58:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:GTFO of highsec?
Problem solved, who cares about wardecs when they are not needed. You want to use them, then deal with the consequences of highsec shenanigans (like neutrol rep) or if used against you leave corp for NPC. Or leave highsec, where you don't encounter it. Every option works, except for a short timer (like 30 minutes) before you get accepted or leave a player corp the entire new mechanics are not even needed....like thos neutral reps where you could just leave the system or dock up, cause nothing says you have to take that kind of abuse.
Meds dude. Meds. Welcome to the Inferno expansion... an expansion dedicated to empire wars. <3
So I guess CCP takes a **** on you.
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Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
323
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:00:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:GTFO of highsec?
Problem solved, who cares about wardecs when they are not needed. You want to use them, then deal with the consequences of highsec shenanigans (like neutrol rep) or if used against you leave corp for NPC. Or leave highsec, where you don't encounter it. Every option works, except for a short timer (like 30 minutes) before you get accepted or leave a player corp the entire new mechanics are not even needed....like thos neutral reps where you could just leave the system or dock up, cause nothing says you have to take that kind of abuse.
Ya, why doesn't everyone leave every security area that they have minor problems with instead of trying to get CCP to remedy them for everyone?
That would end well.
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D3F4ULT
59
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:05:00 -
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lol High sec kiddies getting mad. Cute. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
652
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:08:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:lol High sec kiddies getting mad. Cute. If you find this cute, wait until you see Jita local.. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Janet Patton
Brony Express
12
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:22:00 -
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Go ahead and destroy your corp history! Why do I have this sig? I don't smoke. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
652
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:30:00 -
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Janet Patton wrote:Go ahead and destroy your corp history! My corp history is already shot ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
D3F4ULT
60
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:48:00 -
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Janet Patton wrote:Go ahead and destroy your corp history!
"I'm sorry Johnson, we can't hire you because you won't sit the fu** still. We need commitment, hardwork, and steady head. I hope you find better work somewhere else son."
Its people like you that slowly forget that this is a game about spaceships. Remember playing WoW on a hardcore level and dealing with twits like you getting into a different guild and end up out performing the previous guild that denied me because of my guild history.
In short, recruit who ever when not at war, don't give permissions. Or you just may be that dumb. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
652
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Posted - 2012.05.09 23:53:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Janet Patton wrote:Go ahead and destroy your corp history! "I'm sorry Johnson, we can't hire you because you won't sit the fu** still. We need commitment, hardwork, and steady head. I hope you find better work somewhere else son." Its people like you that slowly forget that this is a game about spaceships. Remember playing WoW on a hardcore level and dealing with twits like you getting into a different guild and end up out performing the previous guild that denied me because of my guild history. In short, recruit who ever when not at war, don't give permissions. Or you just may be that dumb. To be honest, yeah. That's a bit silly.
Like I see some corps have a ridiculous alliance history because they wardec over and over. Yeah, it's a game mechanic... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Janet Patton
Brony Express
13
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Posted - 2012.05.10 00:22:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Its people like you that slowly forget that this is a game about spaceships. Remember playing WoW on a hardcore level and dealing with twits like you getting into a different guild and end up out performing the previous guild that denied me because of my guild history.
In short, recruit who ever when not at war, don't give permissions. Or you just may be that dumb.
Does my silly comment upset you that much? If you can carry the new guild to said glory, this should be a non issue for you. :) Why do I have this sig? I don't smoke. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
653
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Posted - 2012.05.10 00:26:00 -
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Does anyone really care if you leave and rejoin a corp over and over? We all know how the NPC corp thing works in relation to wardecs, it's just a player's version of decshielding... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Eternum Praetorian
Malum Crusis
780
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Posted - 2012.05.10 00:29:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Does anyone really care if you leave and rejoin a corp over and over? We all know how the NPC corp thing works in relation to wardecs, it's just a player's version of decshielding...
No. But it starts to matter when you drop corp, fly across empire completely safe to avoid the fleets hunting you, just to rejoin in a distant system to score a kill. You then drop again, rinse and repeat.
That is just not a good game mechanic, and it should be addressed in an empire-wardec based expansion.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6519
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Posted - 2012.05.10 00:43:00 -
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They talked about this during the FF wardec roundtable.
I don't think any details have been posted about it yet, but the basic idea that arose was that, if you leave a corp during a war, you will not be allowed to rejoin it until the war is over. Or some such. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Eternum Praetorian
Malum Crusis
781
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Posted - 2012.05.10 00:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:They talked about this during the FF wardec roundtable.
I don't think any details have been posted about it yet, but the basic idea that arose was that, if you leave a corp during a war, you will not be allowed to rejoin it until the war is over. Or some such.
That would be unexpectedly sensible of CCP if they actually go ahead with it. * Keeps fingers crossed.
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Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2012.05.10 03:52:00 -
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While it sucks for the guy getting attacked.. I'd say if you're running a mission during a wardec, you should be prepared for any eventualities at all time..
I mean just as easily you could get ganked by a gang because they don't like your glasses.. Welcome to Eve. |
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