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colt steele
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Posted - 2009.05.13 14:30:00 -
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hi guys,
ive been scanning now for a few days so im still very new to this but do love they way it works :) ive been scanning a lot of systems but so far have not come across any GRAV sites in empire. i have found them in worm holes np's but not empire.
do grav sites spawn in empire still? i have been able to find every other kind of site but no grav sites so far.
P.S ive found loads of wh's prety much every second system has a wh in it :) |
Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.05.13 14:58:00 -
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They still show up. I ran across a large kernite, omber, and jaspet site Sunday morning. The changes in the scan system do mean that it can take longer when you're looking for a specific type of site than it did before.
Prior to the Apocrypha change, you warped into a system, dropped a multispectral probe, did one scan cycle (taking 2-8 minutes typically depending on your skills and equipment) and you'd get a list of the types of sites present in the system. If you were just looking for gravimetric sites and none showed up, you could move on to the next system. Once you found one with grav sites, it might take you 20 minutes to 3 hours to pinpoint it, but you knew it was there.
Now you have to at least partially run down each signature in a system, until you get to 25% signal strength at least to tell what type of site it is. I've seen as many as 9 different returns in a single system in hi-sec, just scanning for Cosmic Signatures before. You'll tend to spend more time in each system with signatures now than you did before, though you can find one site a lot faster than previously. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
Qual
Gallente Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2009.05.13 16:21:00 -
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There are less traveled parts of empire that will drown you in grav sites. Trick is finding those less traveled parts. (Clue: Look for no stations and low belt count.)
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |
Ikserak tai
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Posted - 2009.05.13 19:06:00 -
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Just resign yourself to shuttling 2-3 ships 25 jumps from where your home base is, finding a station, and your Gravimetric road show is well on its way.....
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colt steele
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Posted - 2009.05.13 21:13:00 -
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its funny you should say move 25 jumps, ended up moving quite a few ships 22 jumps away from home base to an area of empire which is prety empty and has loads of systems with no stations in it, but so far still no grav sites, plenty of worm holes though, but perty much sod all else!
im begining to think grav sites dont exist on my copy of the client!
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Callista Omenswarm
Astronautical Engineering
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Posted - 2009.05.14 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Qual (Clue: Look for no stations and low belt count.)
Not always, I find grav sites regularly in the busier parts of Citadel and Lonetrek.
There's just little point as unless it is a huge Kernite field, there's better money in just mining Veld/Scord.
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King Rothgar
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.05.14 14:39:00 -
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I found a grav site in low sec yesterday. Had gneiss in it, I ignored it as I care not for mining.
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Youngmuad
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Posted - 2009.05.14 16:11:00 -
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I got a small hemorphite/jaspet/kernite/omber in a 0.7 Pretty nice :) DOn't worry, signatures are random so just wait and you'll get what you want... One thing though, it seems that gravimetric types are a bit harder to find (maybe they have a smaller signature radius)...
Hope that helps
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Swearte Widfarend
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Posted - 2009.05.14 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Swearte Widfarend on 14/05/2009 16:14:57 I've been scanning regularly since Apocrypha deployment. Grav sites are not as common as others, I've seen maybe 5 or 6, but it doesn't matter what sec. status - from 0.8 - 0.4 I've found Grav sites.
King Rothgar: you looking for losec miners in those grav sites
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Celia Therone
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Posted - 2009.05.15 05:11:00 -
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Scanning since Apocrypha went live I've found ten different types of high sec grav sites in 0.5-0.8 sec systems and another two in low sec. Found multiples of some of the high sec sites (e.g. 3 Large Omber).
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colt steele
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Posted - 2009.05.15 06:50:00 -
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many thanks for the help guys,
so far still no luck but ill keep trying, i try and scan about 20 systems then take a break ill just have to spread out to cover more systems.
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Implicatus
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Posted - 2009.05.17 18:18:00 -
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20 systems and no luck??? you seriously have the worst luck. Are you finding anything else? (just a check :P )
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Kibbler
Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.05.17 18:42:00 -
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I'd spend a little time looking into the wormholes themselves. I've found a lot of massive belts in W-space, loaded with the best ores in the game.
I'd argue you'd be way safer out there than low-sec, too; just watch for probes as you mine, and don't forget to bring a probe launcher incase you get stuck. ;D
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Irdia Freelancer
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Posted - 2009.05.18 00:39:00 -
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I've found quite a number of grav sites in hi-sec.
Yesterday I had another jaspet/hemo/omber site and it wasn't a grav site. Another lookout site and I've had this about 6x recently. It has 25k jaspet and 15k hemo, about 1.5 mil veld and heaps more omber/veld in the 2nd pocket. Is a non grav site thats quite common but still has 95,000 mtrs in just jaspet/hemo ores.
I found a small grav site other night which had about 26 jaspet rocks and 15 kern, plus other omber->veld. It was 30 min before downtime so had moved after downtime.
Also found a large grav site with kernite/omber(maybe veld etc, but I dont see as dont show it on my overview). It had only the +5%/10% kern rocks, ie no plain which is where the isk is (materials for war prep supplies).
Found about 3 grav sites with omber and lower. That just the last 10 days and all in hi-sec. Also had about 5 sites that neeed hacking which I didn't have (now trained ready for next site requiring hacking).
The escalations also been okay. Few 10 mil deadspace drops, about 8 of 1-2 mil deadspace drops, and one t2 imp contracting 55 mil'ish.
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Veto Nalloc
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Posted - 2009.05.18 00:50:00 -
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Edited by: Veto Nalloc on 18/05/2009 00:50:57 just out of curiosity, why try to find grav sites in high sec anyways? i mean maybe u get a few decent low sec roids but like someone said already, u make more isk mining velds in high sec anyways. my corp ran a mining op today in 0.0 and made a hell of alot of isk off it and only 1 part was a grav site which was a large arkonor bistot and mercoxit, we left the mercoxit cos the guys that mine that stuff werent online today but still managed to make about 400mil off the site alone after taxes, wouldnt it be more fruitful and interesting to join a 0.0 corp that do mining as well of other things and earn ur isk that way safe in the company of ur corp mates in a system that u have well protected rather than just mine the same old same old...? just my 2 cents.
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La Gloria
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Posted - 2009.05.18 03:47:00 -
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Find a nice class 2, drop a med POS and a refining array, guns etc. You'll get 1-2 Grav sites a week and you'll have trouble clearing them. Your holds will be full of everything but Mexcotit.
Really.
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Qaedienne
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Posted - 2009.05.18 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: La Gloria
Find a nice class 2, drop a med POS and a refining array, guns etc. You'll get 1-2 Grav sites a week and you'll have trouble clearing them. Your holds will be full of everything but Mexcotit.
Really.
This. The only hard part will be getting the ore/minerals out of the WH, since the hole limits how many trips and how big of a ship can go through it.
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Ashmira Wintereyes
Caldari Free Spirits
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Posted - 2009.05.18 07:40:00 -
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Just for those not daring/able to venture into low-sec for mining trips and the records..
Last night i scanned down a gravity site in a 0.8 empire system which is pretty populated (25 man in the system at the time i found it)
The site held 6000 units of Vivid Hemorphite, 6000 units of Radiant Hemorphite, 12k of normal Hemorphite, 12k of Luminous Kernite and also alot of normal Kernite, Jaspet.
So yes, even in the higher hi-secs you can hit good 'beginner' gravity sites and make some isk (i took out about 12m before i had to log and picked up 3x hulk on my scanner in the system after a visit of a scanner vessel so i asume its gone now)
The only problem is the grav sites are rare in high-sec, i find gravity sites on a ratio of 1 to 4 on magneto/radar sites in high security space. or they are just scanned/stripped faster then a guy can say jackpot!
all in all, im not keen on hunting down gravity sites as my skills are not up to it to make a good isk/hour ratio on it and my alliance buddies that strip these sites in a short time are in low-sec most of the time and held up by wars most of the times, but sometimes a good site can make you some decent money. So dont hold back, scan them out and try to make some isks ;) make sure you have atleast some firepower/drones when in there.. the high-sec last night spawned a total of 2 rats while i was there but where killed by my drones before they even damaged my ships shields.
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Bubba Zenetti
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Posted - 2009.05.18 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Celia Therone Scanning since Apocrypha went live I've found ten different types of high sec grav sites in 0.5-0.8 sec systems and another two in low sec. Found multiples of some of the high sec sites (e.g. 3 Large Omber).
Yea you just need to get your scan strength up and use a ship with a bonus. Training your astrometric [whatever] skills to 2 and scanning in a tackling frig won't get you very far, though finding grav sites in W space seems a little easier.
If you aren't finding them you should read an exploration guide and pay special attention to the part where they tell you to train your astro skills all up to at least 4 and get astrometrics 5.
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Endurashfgh
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Posted - 2009.05.19 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Endurashfgh on 19/05/2009 00:26:53 Colt... have you scanned once scince apo release??
with new probe system scan str does not affect your chance to find a site! There is no "random" in scanning any more. If your probes are in the area that the site is in, you WILL pick it up on your system scan. Most of the scan skills are worthless now except to save a little time. And astrometrec accusation is completly worthless past 2 or 3 with the shortened scan time!
Grav sites are rare in High sec because nobody will mine them in lowsec.... end of story.
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colt steele
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Posted - 2009.05.19 06:07:00 -
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Edited by: colt steele on 19/05/2009 06:07:40 many many thanks for the replies guys :)
well success i moved from caldari space to amarr and the second day i was there i found a large omber site, roughly 1.4mil omber i got from it (someone was already in there mining it though). then the 2 systems after it i found medium omber/kernite sites. although they only had 300k of mins in them which is quite a step down from a large site. but at least i have found some now :)
to reply to some of the guys here, i went into worm hole's and scanned down grav sites straight away , would love to mine them but im worried about getting my orca in / out of the wormhole tbh. plus im thinking of the set up cost of buying a tower with a couple of guns on it and a refinery array, is it really worth it? also as a single player (albeit i use 4 accounts at once when mining) im also worried about defence. i would probably join a big indy corp but im trying to do T2 invention just now so i have my own pos in high sec to try that and dont really want to lose that, although ive not been to successfull at invention with only about 1/4 of the jobs being successfull. putting my skills for that from lv4 to 5 only actually adds another 2% to the success rate according to the stats ive seen.
anyway guys many thanks for the help here i think grav sites are just very rare in high sec :)
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Veto Nalloc
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Posted - 2009.05.19 07:00:00 -
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You use 4 accounts in mining? omg u could be earning billions a week off us in 0.0, and we do t2 invention aswell btw.
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Calleb
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Posted - 2009.05.19 07:08:00 -
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I wish I could find something other than grav sites TBCH - lol
I suspect that areas in space have a particular bias towards one type or another, so if you are having no luck where you are - as a poster said above - move to at least a different constelation and try again
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Adalwulff
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Posted - 2009.05.19 12:36:00 -
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I found a GRAV site on my first scan, haven't seen one since.
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