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rValdez5987
Amarr Imperial Guard.
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Posted - 2009.05.13 19:54:00 -
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You people whine to much.
Either play the game or unsub. |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.13 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian Are you flying a brick? I thought you were flying a cov ops capable ship.
Silly me.
So tell me…
Once you decloak, how long does it take to lock you? Once you can MWD, how long do you let it run before turning the cloak on? Once you've turned the MWD on, what is your sig radius, and how long does it take to lock you then? In the time between turning the MWD on and hitting the cloak, how much has your ship accelerated?
——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.13 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian Do you people even know the definition of the word 'coast' in this context?
The MWD being on means you aren't coasting.
So you can either mwd back to the gate at full speed, whatever that is. Or hit the mwd, and then cloak and coast the rest of the way.
I don't see the problem here, and if you pull the Ace Card out of your collective ASSES you might realize you don't have to run back to the gate once you cloak. Ever heard of faking out an enemy?
Yeah, Jove forbid the average pilot in EvE can think outside the fotm strategy guide.
You lot fly your little noob alts.
LOLOLOLOL FAKE OUT! HAHAHAH HE SAID FAKE OUT! What the **** you gonna do, a spin move with a pump fake? Once hes got you locked and then scrammed what is your "fake" going to do for you? HAHAHAHA
P.S. You can't "coast" anymore **** face. They are nerfing that, hence the thread. Jesus. --
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Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.05.13 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian Do you people even know the definition of the word 'coast' in this context?
The MWD being on means you aren't coasting.
So you can either mwd back to the gate at full speed, whatever that is. Or hit the mwd, and then cloak and coast the rest of the way.
I don't see the problem here, and if you pull the Ace Card out of your collective ASSES you might realize you don't have to run back to the gate once you cloak. Ever heard of faking out an enemy?
Yeah, Jove forbid the average pilot in EvE can think outside the fotm strategy guide.
You lot fly your little noob alts.
I just realised, this must be the other alt of Anvalor. There is no way that two separate people this obtuse can populate this very thread at once!
At any rate, no, it doesn't work like that, you're stupid. Now go away ... -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
Anubis Xian
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Originally by: Anubis Xian Do you people even know the definition of the word 'coast' in this context?
The MWD being on means you aren't coasting.
So you can either mwd back to the gate at full speed, whatever that is. Or hit the mwd, and then cloak and coast the rest of the way.
I don't see the problem here, and if you pull the Ace Card out of your collective ASSES you might realize you don't have to run back to the gate once you cloak. Ever heard of faking out an enemy?
Yeah, Jove forbid the average pilot in EvE can think outside the fotm strategy guide.
You lot fly your little noob alts.
LOLOLOLOL FAKE OUT! HAHAHAH HE SAID FAKE OUT! What the **** you gonna do, a spin move with a pump fake? Once hes got you locked and then scrammed what is your "fake" going to do for you? HAHAHAHA
P.S. You can't "coast" anymore **** face. They are nerfing that, hence the thread. Jesus.
Do you need a dictionary? You never were coasting.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Anubis Xian
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Bartholomeus Crane
Originally by: Anubis Xian Do you people even know the definition of the word 'coast' in this context?
The MWD being on means you aren't coasting.
So you can either mwd back to the gate at full speed, whatever that is. Or hit the mwd, and then cloak and coast the rest of the way.
I don't see the problem here, and if you pull the Ace Card out of your collective ASSES you might realize you don't have to run back to the gate once you cloak. Ever heard of faking out an enemy?
Yeah, Jove forbid the average pilot in EvE can think outside the fotm strategy guide.
You lot fly your little noob alts.
I just realised, this must be the other alt of Anvalor. There is no way that two separate people this obtuse can populate this very thread at once!
At any rate, no, it doesn't work like that, you're stupid. Now go away ...
Well, I'm not stupid enough to jump into a gate camp I can't get out of.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian Do you need a dictionary? You never were coasting.
Of course not, since it's no longer possible with these changes. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Nyphur
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian Well, I'm not stupid enough to jump into a gate camp I can't get out of.
How do you magically know the camp is there? We're talking about the ship designed to gather intel on camps here, before it goes in you have no idea if there's a camp there. That's kind of its job as a scout, to jump in blindly.
Do you even play EVE?
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Anubis Xian
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Anubis Xian Do you need a dictionary? You never were coasting.
Of course not, since it's no longer possible with these changes.
You should apply for a new job, I hear Dense Veldspar is hiring.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Anubis Xian
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Anubis Xian Well, I'm not stupid enough to jump into a gate camp I can't get out of.
How do you magically know the camp is there? We're talking about the ship designed to gather intel on camps here, before it goes in you have no idea if there's a camp there. That's kind of its job as a scout, to jump in blindly.
Do you even play EVE?
O.O
I never jump blindly. Call me sane, but to do so is just dumb.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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TheEndofTheWorld
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Anubis Xian Well, I'm not stupid enough to jump into a gate camp I can't get out of.
How do you magically know the camp is there? We're talking about the ship designed to gather intel on camps here, before it goes in you have no idea if there's a camp there. That's kind of its job as a scout, to jump in blindly.
Do you even play EVE?
O.O
I never jump blindly. Call me sane, but to do so is just dumb.
Are you just trolling a random forum with your friend's account?
c/d
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian O.O
I never jump blindly. Call me sane, but to do so is just dumb.
That's.. Jesus christ, are you even reading? Do you have a magic crystal ball that gives you positive intel on a gate before your scout jumps in or something?
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Squat Hardpeck
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Squat Hardpeck on 13/05/2009 20:10:38 Perhaps a middle ground can be established? Ships that can utilize a Cov Ops cloak can still use MWD while cloaked, so these ships aren't hurt by the changes, while every other ship that uses a regular cloaking device is affected by these changes?
I can sort of see why they made these changes, as no cloakable ship should ever be immune to a gate camp, but perhaps it was a bit much with the 3 second delay.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian You should apply for a new job, I hear Dense Veldspar is hiring.
…and you should answer the questions I posted earlier to explain how you expect to coast once these changes go through. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Nyphur
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Squat Hardpeck Perhaps a middle ground can be established? Ships that can utilize a Cov Ops cloak can still use MWD while cloaked, so these ships aren't hurt by the changes, while every other ship that uses a regular cloaking device is affected by these changes?
I can sort of see why they made these changes, as no scout should ever be immune to a gate camp, but perhaps it was a bit much with the 3 second delay.
Officially, it's due to jamming and immediately cloaking. Nothing to do with scouts being immune to gate camps really, which to be fair they really should. Scouts that die when they encounter enemies would be pretty worthless on any pvp op.
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Anubis Xian
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Squat Hardpeck Perhaps a middle ground can be established? Ships that can utilize a Cov Ops cloak can still use MWD while cloaked, so these ships aren't hurt by the changes, while every other ship that uses a regular cloaking device is affected by these changes?
I can sort of see why they made these changes, as no scout should ever be immune to a gate camp, but perhaps it was a bit much with the 3 second delay.
Well, the mwd staying on while cloaked is all but an exploit.
But I'm honestly surprised this thread is so full of fail.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Chris Liath
Gallente Nex Exercitus Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:14:00 -
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At least you're not specialized in gallente turret-armed ships.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian But I'm honestly surprised this thread is so full of fail.
You shouldn't be, you're supplying most of it.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian Well, the mwd staying on while cloaked is all but an exploit.
So now you're saying that your precious coasting (which, again, is no longer possible) is an exploit? Make up your mind…
Quote: But I'm honestly surprised this thread is so full of fail.
That's ok. We'll forgive you if you answer the questions I posted. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Anubis Xian
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Anubis Xian You should apply for a new job, I hear Dense Veldspar is hiring.
àand you should answer the questions I posted earlier to explain how you expect to coast once these changes go through.
Well, my Cheetah can hit nearly 5.2km/s with no problem.
What is your cov ops packin? Water weight?
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian Well, my Cheetah can hit nearly 5.2km/s with no problem.
How long does it take to reach that speed? And what about the rest of the questions? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Anubis Xian
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Anubis Xian Well, my Cheetah can hit nearly 5.2km/s with no problem.
How long does it take to reach that speed? And what about the rest of the questions?
Even in an interceptor, you would be back to the gate before you hit the top speed.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 13/05/2009 20:25:21
Originally by: Anubis Xian Even in an interceptor, you would be back to the gate before you hit the top speed.
No you wouldn't. We're discussing the change hitting TQ tomorrow which may include a three second delay on activating your mwd after decloaking post-jump. So you're on normal thrusters for 3 seconds when reapproaching the gate, which is long enough for any camp to get a short range scram and a web or two on you.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian Even in an interceptor, you would be back to the gate before you hit the top speed.
How long does it take? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Herzog Wolfhammer
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Anubis Xian O.O
I never jump blindly. Call me sane, but to do so is just dumb.
That's.. Jesus christ, are you even reading? Do you have a magic crystal ball that gives you positive intel on a gate before your scout jumps in or something?
Hmmm
Be nice to have true scout drones you can send through a gate first.... that's an idea.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Total Comfort
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer Be nice to have true scout drones you can send through a gate first.... that's an idea.
That would actually be pretty awesome. Or we could use hacking on a stargate to view local in the next system or get an image of the overview at the other side of the gate or something.
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Feilamya
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Anubis Xian O.O
I never jump blindly. Call me sane, but to do so is just dumb.
That's.. Jesus christ, are you even reading? Do you have a magic crystal ball that gives you positive intel on a gate before your scout jumps in or something?
no he uses a noob alt in an ibis to scout for his covert ops. and btw THAT'S WHAT COASTING MEANS U NOOBS!!!
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer Be nice to have true scout drones you can send through a gate first.... that's an idea.
Nerf the Helios!! You heard it here first! ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:38:00 -
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Bartholomeus Crane
Gallente The Crane Family
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Posted - 2009.05.13 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Anubis Xian Well, my Cheetah can hit nearly 5.2km/s with no problem.
How long does it take to reach that speed? And what about the rest of the questions?
Even in an interceptor, you would be back to the gate before you hit the top speed.
A sensor booster HIC would lock you in less than 3 seconds. Sensor boosted interceptors in maybe 5. The three or so long range BS pop you in about 10. And with your huge sig radius, even missile ships will have a field day. So, no.
If this is your 'creative way' of busting gate camps you promised us: it sucks.
Listen, I know you've only played this game for a year or so, and you no doubt have a lot of fun playing with your alt in your little two man corps. And no doubt you're mommy never paid you enough attention after unfortunately dropping you on your head. But playtime is over now. You've made it abundantly clear that you have no idea what you are talking about, and repeatedly made an utter fool of yourself. So why don't you pick up whatever is left of your dignity, and go fail somewhere else? At least that way we don't have to respond to your misguided attempts at sounding all grown up all the time and have some time to ridicule you behind your back. Now, run along ... -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? |
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