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piratezxp
Caldari Gene Works Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2009.05.14 21:27:00 -
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Yeah, this might sound alittle dumb, but meh? :P
Anyways - What exactly does the eve fitting screen take into account when adding up to the total effective hp a ship has, i only ask this because EFT and the fitting screen display different results, even know the shield recharge times are the same etc etc.
I understand already that the fitting screen wont take modules into consideration until u undock and turn them on.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.14 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 14/05/2009 22:38:40 EDIT: Oops! You meant the fitting screen not EFT. I missed that. Sorry. This may apply too that scree as well, but I'm not sure. I never really look at the fitting screen, as I use EFT.
EFT's Effective HP can be misleading. Also keep in mind that effective HP is different from actual HP.
They use: shield HP * bonus from shield resists + armor HP * bonus from armor resists + hull HP * bonus from hull resists
For example, if you have 60% shield resists across the board, then your EFFECTIVE bonus is 60%. If one of your resists is weaker, then the effective bonus will be lower.
The resist bonuses are assumed to apply equally to the incoming damage, but that isn't normally the case. EFT allows you to change the effective resist profile (right-click on stuff for the menus).
I like to set an incoming damage profile of 100% EM damage, as most ships are weak to EM and many PvP attackers will use EM for this reason. You will often find your EM effective HP to be much lower than the default Uniform Distribution.
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piratezxp
Caldari Gene Works Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2009.05.14 22:50:00 -
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Thank you for your post, great information. I was wondering also why the Hitpoints differ on the fitting screen in eft and also the one in eve's client?.
Strip fittings on both eft and also the eve fitting screen, and yet they have different overall hp's.
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.05.15 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: piratezxp Thank you for your post, great information. I was wondering also why the Hitpoints differ on the fitting screen in eft and also the one in eve's client?.
Strip fittings on both eft and also the eve fitting screen, and yet they have different overall hp's.
meh :D
Have you updated EFT's skills - there may be some bonus that's being applied to a ship that is related to your skills. Eve will have your current skills, EFT may be a little out of date if you haven't imported your skills recently.
Bonus Examples: A Phobos has a bonus to resistances, An Occator has an armour HP bonus.
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Apollo Gabriel
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Posted - 2009.05.15 01:18:00 -
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Just for clarity to the OP, look at your shields, let's say you are in a drake and have 7000 points, and your resists are 66 70 75 70,
Then your lowest is EM at 66, so you take 34 points of damage for ever 100 incoming EM, or roughly 1/3 of incoming EM, so then for EM damage, your EHP is 3*7000 ~ 21,000 EHP. The Fitting manager only reports your lowest EHP, for further clarity, Kinetic is 75 so you take 25 out of 100 or 1/4, then your EHP = 4*7000 = 28,000 EHP for Kinetic
Hope it helps, Fly as safely as you intend Apollo
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piratezxp
Caldari Gene Works Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2009.05.15 07:46:00 -
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Edited by: piratezxp on 15/05/2009 07:46:46 @ Baka - Yeah i downloaded EFT about an hour before posting this topic, and imported my API settings
As for the post above, i understand now, so effective hp is the effective hp for the lowest resistance, where as eft just shows a round about figure for all of the resistances.
I hope i read that right.
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