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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.19 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej
Roleplaying in a video game is still playing a game. Same as not roleplaying in a video game. Some non-RP folks take stuff like killboard stats WAY too seriously. Some RP folks take the RP itself WAY too seriously. To assume that ALL RP folks take the entire game (or just FW, even) too seriously would be a mistake. Some people just want a little "flavor text" to go along with the pewpew to make it more interesting than simply "lol i pwn u," which by itself gets a little boring after a while.
An important thing to realize is that when you are roleplaying this conflict - ie your character is speaking as your character would speak in local, it does provide a level of abstraction between the conflict and the person behind the screen. Sometimes this abstraction is all the difference between hot-tempered abuse and smacktalk and just enjoying the war.
I've yet to visualize a roleplayer losing their temper and hammering the keyboard with their knuckles in anger at a ship loss in the Bleaklands and Devoid - but I have seen many anti-roleplayers saying silly things in local and reacting with a great deal of emotional intensity and obvious rage.
When my character describes Amarrians as "dogs" and "worms" and "spineless gutless wastes of skin" in local or on the IGS I'm roleplaying this conflict. I won't even recognize out of character replies in the main since I don't want to muddy the waters and start confusing the enemy avatars (who generally are gutless doglike worms :) and the players (many of whom will be decent enough people to talk to out of game and out of character.
The funny thing about eve is that roleplay doesn't require consensuality. All the players involved with Amarrian faction warfare are already consenting to me considering them witless pawns of decadent imperialist regression and blowing up their ships when the opportunity arises. I don't need their permission to roleplay with them and force them to accept the consequences of their roleplayed affiliations with the slavers.
Maybe this does sound a bit heavy to some - but its the thing that means Star Fraction pilots can have a great laugh on our out of character voice comms blowing up enemies, indulging in IC discussions and smackdowns in local chat, and generally ignoring the ooc sensibilities and whining of our enemies.
We don't lose our ooc tempers when our IC ships are blown up.
There is a lesson to be learned there I think.
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Nur AlHuda
Amarr Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.05.19 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 19/05/2009 16:45:26
Originally by: me bored Jericho are a load of station hugging blow hards who don't do much except play docking games while trash talking in local and I've never seen CVA in FW space.
Our war-record seems to disagree with you. What is true however is that we've decided to adapt our tactics to out-station-game the Amarrians and their legion of out of FW logistics alts. Its not glorious but we are in the process of purging Amarrian heavy ship presence from Kamela system and forcing the 24th Crusade to decentralize. If this continues to work then it'll aid our Matari allies by providing more bite-sized amarrian fleets to attack.
Course by "docking-games" I'm guessing you mean US outside the station repeatedly forcing Amarrians to dock / undock / dock / undock until one of them gets unlucky and instanuked at which point the rest stay sullenly trapped inside until we go to sleep.
I haven't ever seen a 24th Crusade fleet capable of suppressing US back into the station in 6 months of fighting.
But if you don't think we can fight away from stations at all then we invite more wardecs - allow us to educate you further
Of the CVA - best think of them as an on-tap hotdrop entity that can be called in by the 24th Crusade in any POS fight or capital engagement that lasts longer than 20 minutes.
Several 24th Crusade corps are prepared to sacrifice their own battleships and losses to the CVA KOS list to invite CVA capital intervention when they feel they need it.
I hope this is is offcial pep talk for each minmatar fleet that looses a fight. How long goes the war? One year? In that time SF was unable of anythink bigger then wardeclaring few corporations and killing people who stayed behind or destroying a corp fleet operation. That in a one year timeframe is too small achievment.
And about station camps i never saw in my 3 months in militia any station games performed by amarr milita but i saw a lot of times watching SF carriers undock and then dock when situation got serious and they were unable to help minmatar allies.
And I like it that way how it is couse in future months still SF will be only able to provide occasional intel for minmatar or play station games.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.19 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nur AlHuda And about station camps i never saw in my 3 months in militia any station games performed by amarr milita but i saw a lot of times watching SF carriers undock and then dock when situation got serious and they were unable to help minmatar allies.
Don't bother lying on an out of character forum thats just sad ...
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Nur AlHuda
Amarr Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.05.19 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Nur AlHuda And about station camps i never saw in my 3 months in militia any station games performed by amarr milita but i saw a lot of times watching SF carriers undock and then dock when situation got serious and they were unable to help minmatar allies.
Don't bother lying on an out of character forum thats just sad ...
I dont need to lie. If someone would not belive me he is free to join minmatar milita and see how little support they are recieving from SF and actualy thy are loosing more in a way.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.19 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Nur AlHuda I dont need to lie. If someone would not belive me he is free to join minmatar milita.
They might do better to hang around Kamela station and see the Amarrians performing the same "docking games" everybody else does if they want to catch you out in this very silly falsehood.
Once again. Drop the IC propaganda - its ridiculous on an ooc forum.
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Nur AlHuda
Amarr Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.05.19 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: Nur AlHuda on 19/05/2009 18:18:35 Edited by: Nur AlHuda on 19/05/2009 18:17:10
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Nur AlHuda I dont need to lie. If someone would not belive me he is free to join minmatar milita.
They might do better to hang around Kamela station and see the Amarrians performing the same "docking games" everybody else does if they want to catch you out in this very silly falsehood.
Once again. Drop the IC propaganda - its ridiculous on an ooc forum.
Only one who is doing chest beating propaganda is you. No corporation or alliance involved around lowsec faction warfare has made so much threads and so much cheastbeating with so little performance as you.
SF is not even a member of recognized militias and posts around as it would involve you. More impact on warfare has a random Dark-Rsing or Tribal Core FC who can raise a fleet and lead minmatars to battle. Sf can attack some ships in highsec that are in war and claims impact on faction warfare? Those threads are from you not from me btw. If you would attack any non war target milita member you would get poped by concord. If you fire on militia members in lowsec you get fire from sentry guns. So your actions are limited by game mechanic.
And with that thing joining minmatar militia i was dead serious. i would have more war targets and they would see the truth so it would be win-win situation. One thing is what they read from you on the forums and second what happens when they actualy join.
And yes this was a rant.
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Veshta Yoshida
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.19 18:20:00 -
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Wow there are a lot of misconceptions.
Originally by: Jade Constantine Our war-record seems to disagree with you. What is true however is that we've decided to adapt our tactics to out-station-game the Amarrians and their legion of out of FW logistics alts.
I know of one. Some Caldari and other faithfuls stop by from time to time. If we had that "legion" you refer to I doubt the Matari would hold any systems at this point.
Originally by: Jade Constantine ...If this continues to work then it'll aid our Matari allies by providing more bite-sized amarrian fleets to attack.
They take such small bites as it is, you are going to be here for a long long time if that is the goal.
Originally by: Jade Constantine I haven't ever seen a 24th Crusade fleet capable of suppressing US back into the station in 6 months of fighting.
Why waste energy on you when you have marginal impact as it is? You are just one of many neutral entities in the area, the fact that you can single handedly lag out an entire constellation by launching fighters at a station does not give you any special priority ..
Originally by: Jade Constantine Of the CVA...
There are some shared channels, but no special connections that I know of, not beyond friendship and being brothers in arms. It is worth mentioning that they seem to be willing to drop anything they are doing if the chance to kill SF presents itself .. that kind of "love" is rare.
Originally by: Jade Constantine <Lot's of outdated intelligence>
Amarr have gone through the in-fighting phase, we have spies oozing everywhere, doom-sayers and nay-sayers, we have our local pirates etc. etc. You learn to work through and around problems.
I have no idea who handles payment for forums, kill board and such but I am sure the Minmatar have similar benefactors. If not I'll be happy to help with ISK for their killboard.
The Minmatar have the same numbers as we do in the post-dt bracket, this they have proven time and time again. Problem is that if we are able to match their numbers they generally end up squashed so they just don't (usually) bother unless they have a clear advantage .. C'est la Guerre ..
CVA does not support the militia any more, that has been the case ever since their announcement several months ago. Even before that, the Providence presence in the area was negligible, you are putting far too much weight on the whole Amarrian Bloc idea.
Originally by: Jade Constantine I liken the whole thing to a resistance movement of idealistic freedom loving heroes opposing a well organized occupying power backed by a neighbouring superpower.
That is one description I suppose, but you need to mention that the "heroes" started the war by breaking every international treaty signed, attacked cross-border peace keeping forces (Concord) and wrecked immeasurable havoc on civilian populations.
Originally by: Jade Constantine I know which side I'm glad to help out!
Once a terrorist, always a terrorist .. your allegiance needs no excuses nor explanations at this point.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.19 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: Nur AlHuda Only one who is doing chest beating propaganda is you. No corporation or alliance involved around lowsec faction warfare has made so much threads and so much cheastbeating with so little performance as you.
We certainly seem to have riled you up something fierce But once again I'll urge you to discover the difference between IC and OOC propaganda.
Quote: SF is not even a member of recognized militias and posts around as it would involve you. More impact on warfare has a random Dark-Rsing or Tribal Core FC who can raise a fleet and lead minmatars to battle. Sf can attack some ships in highsec that are in war and claims impact on faction warfare?
We impact your game NurAlHuda. The 24th Crusade appears obsessed with us. And why not really? We've moved wholesale into your once "capital system" and prevent you forming fleets with your chosen FC's in battleships. I understand it annoys you that we can also travel freely and interdict reinforcements on the way from Amarr, we can hunt your allies support and missioning infrastructure and yes, without significant counteraction from the Amarrian nationalists we likely are never going away. But thats the game isn't it? More targets are fun - new tactical challenges are what we all seek. I never really understand why you'd be ooc upset about it.
Quote: Those threads are from you not from me btw.
On an IC forum where such things are meant to be. If you can't tell the difference its your problem not ours.
Quote: And yes this was a rant.
Not a very good one
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.05.19 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Veshta Yoshida we have our local pirates etc. etc.
Really. Name some names.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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crockett EXE
Minmatar Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.05.19 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat Minnie's seemed pretty uninterested in Plexing last i saw and took far greater interest in getting fights.
We have been doing plexes from time to time, but never just to "do" a plex for the sake of plexing, at least not most of us. Most times we use it as a tool to get a fight or to force the other side to ship down if we can't match their fleet at the given time.
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Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.05.19 21:04:00 -
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Great job guys. Bring frickin' Jade Constantine to Warfare & Tactics.
Bloody morons. ___________________
ENEMA, much love. <3 |
Shun Makoto
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.05.19 21:07:00 -
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The Amarr can't seem to get their act together cut a swath into Minmatar space like the Caldari have into Gallente.
Strange really since I usually see the Amarr taking systems.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.19 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo Great job guys. Bring frickin' Jade Constantine to Warfare & Tactics. Bloody morons.
Hey Intigo - I heard you were a bit upset when we blew up your ship the other night?
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crockett EXE
Minmatar Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.05.19 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: crockett EXE on 19/05/2009 21:18:06
Originally by: Shun Makoto The Amarr can't seem to get their act together cut a swath into Minmatar space like the Caldari have into Gallente.
Strange really since I usually see the Amarr taking systems.
That's because the fight between the Amarr and Minmatar is about blowing up internet space ships, not playing capture the flag like you girls do up there in Jita spam land.
I think there is a fairly small group of Minmatar whom run plexes and like doing it but most of us are here for PVP. Seems the same for the Amarr, I think PIE's do a lot of plexing but other than that most of them don't seem to be too interested in it either.
btw if there are any Minmatar supporters my wallet is always accepting donations...
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Micia
Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.19 21:17:00 -
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I was googling "RP in EVE" and it led me to this thread.
'sup, warriors!
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Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.05.19 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Intigo Great job guys. Bring frickin' Jade Constantine to Warfare & Tactics. Bloody morons.
Hey Intigo - I heard you were a bit upset when we blew up your ship the other night?
Hey Jade - I heard you're absolutely horrendous at PvP.
And no, I'm never upset when I lose ships, I just like smacktalking people who are terrible (this is you).
You're a laughing stock in all of EVE. I whole-heartedly enjoy hearing the STIM guys tell stories. :D ___________________
ENEMA, much love. <3 |
Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.19 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 19/05/2009 22:45:30
Originally by: Intigo Hey Jade - I heard you're absolutely horrendous at PvP. And no, I'm never upset when I lose ships, I just like smacktalking people who are terrible (this is you).
And yet we still blew up your ship?
As for my pvp skills, well, I'm neither the best nor the worst in eve but I can already tell from your posting that I'm a hellova lot better than you are.
Quote: You're a laughing stock in all of EVE. I whole-heartedly enjoy hearing the STIM guys tell stories. :D
STIM guys? Saying things about me? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you. Who would have thought it.
Still, can't be that much of a failure when I've got a good bunch of friends to fly with every night and try out wild and crazy eve plans with while all you get to do is die on your lonesome in frigates like jonny-no-friends at the special loner disco night.
Have a nice day! (and maybe consider joining a corp with more actual ship kills than pos component kills on the front page before criticising somebody elses (PvP and thats for Player vs Player ... activity there guy).
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Unfamed II
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Posted - 2009.05.19 23:35:00 -
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Civilians...
Originally by: Sandslinger of CA
So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
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me bored
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Posted - 2009.05.20 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY IMAGINARY SPACE SHIP. DO YOU THINK THIS IS SOME KIND OF A GAME???
This is exactly what I was talking about. All smack, no skill, and they constantly embarrass themselves with this drivel both in and out of game. Fly through kamela and you'll witness them beating their chests within docking range and arguing with week old alts about how great they are.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.20 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: me bored
Originally by: Jade Constantine HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY IMAGINARY SPACE SHIP. DO YOU THINK THIS IS SOME KIND OF A GAME???
This is exactly what I was talking about. All smack, no skill, and they constantly embarrass themselves with this drivel both in and out of game. Fly through kamela and you'll witness them beating their chests within docking range and arguing with week old alts about how great they are.
And you are? I don't think we've been introduced. Obviously you weren't in Kamela earlier this evening
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.20 07:07:00 -
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Quote:
The Amarr can't seem to get their act together cut a swath into Minmatar space like the Caldari have into Gallente.
Strange really since I usually see the Amarr taking systems.
I prefer Amarr to Caldaris.
They want more pew pew and more direct confrontation.
I play very little FW (compared to some of my corp mates) because I just perma desync at the first sign of blob (but not in 0.0, so I prefer that) but...
... when I was in Gallente FW, it was boring and borderline frustrating having to be in definite minority yet to not find willing enemies. It was 3 of us in T1 frigs (plexing) vs 6 T2 ships or else they'd not engage and would only boast their past downtime PvE.
Little we could do, as we all come back from work after 4+ hours after downtime anyway.
Plus TBH I prefer looting an Amarr ship (armor tank mods, lasers for my minny and Amarr ships) than just another score of missiles / charges.
I think Wolfy would have much more fun here than in Gallente, here there's appropriate fights.
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BattleStar Crusader
Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.05.20 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
And you are? I don't think we've been introduced. Obviously you weren't in Kamela earlier this evening
And Who are you jade??? chest beating, role playing on the forums is one thing, but to say that (note above) and then continue to thrash out long winded excuses and not so whittey retorts and still not be part of this war, and part of anything in general. Well i think that rests the case.
Goodbye jade
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2009.05.20 07:43:00 -
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The only docking games I play are in character and out of game.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Veshta Yoshida
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.20 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Micia I was googling "RP in EVE" and it led me to this thread. 'sup, warriors!
'Sup Micia. We have finally managed to get the discussion to a civil level and on topic. Some regurgitated hostility had to be cleared away first
Originally by: crockett EXE That's because the fight between the Amarr and Minmatar is about blowing up internet space ships, not playing capture the flag like you girls do up there in Jita spam land.
Not really, it is a matter of numbers. To take a system you need a presence in an area 24/7 and prevent defenders from taking any .. neither of our two sides has the absolute numerical superiority so we just tug our respective ends of the rope and kill each other.
Originally by: crockett EXE ..I think PIE's do a lot of plexing but other than that most of them don't seem to be too interested in it either.
For most of the day there is not much else to do to be honest. There is either the OMgWTBlob disrupting traffic or the rabbit chase when the blob is on the other foot. Should be noted that my plexing makes me a billion a month or more at present. The new probing makes for an excellent past time while waiting for timers .. exploration doesn't add a lot, but it does add up. If it wasn't for the new probes I probably wouldn't even be here anymore. Plexing on its own is boring and combat can be hard to find even after I went into mad-dog killer mode (up to 700+ FWStats Kills .. not bad for a plexing carebear \o/)
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha ... when I was in Gallente FW, it was boring and borderline frustrating having to be in definite minority yet to not find willing enemies...
You'll find though that this frontline does not have the same heavy ship focus but is rather more about the frigate/cruiser hulls. Both sides have a lot of newer players and keeping it "small" allows everyone a place at the table.
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I think Wolfy would have much more fun here than in Gallente, here there's appropriate fights.
If history has shown anything, then it is the bigger the numbers discrepancy becomes the response speeds up and looses weight (fast and light). Amarr/Minmatar are at a good spot now I think. We have lots of mid-size engagements as well as small gang roams, with the weekend slugfests. If the population gap widens the mid-size will be lost and you have t2 frigates pecking away at the immovable blobs that seem to follow numbers.. guerilla warfare.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.20 09:53:00 -
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Originally by: Esna Pitoojee
Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/05/2009 14:56:53
An interesting version of events. However, the Mnnies got off to a decent start in FW, steam-rollering the Amarrians day after day and taking system after system.
Since then though, the Amarrians first stabilised things, and the recaptured all of their systems. As things stand, the Amarrians are a system up.
I attribute this to an odd side-effect of there being an existing command structure among the Amarrian corps at the start of FW:
PvPers, as an overall tendency, prefer to fly under FCs and with people they already know. Hence, at the start, the various Amarr FW corps had problems coordinating inter-corp efforts. Minmatar, on the other hand, could simply yell "X up for raiding blob!" and everyone would scramble.
That's probably a fair assessment.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.20 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Shun Makoto The Amarr can't seem to get their act together cut a swath into Minmatar space like the Caldari have into Gallente.
Strange really since I usually see the Amarr taking systems.
One thing to bear in mind is that the Caldari have something like a 20% numbers advantage over their Galleante adversaries, whilst the Amarrians are generally outnumbered. I think that in the early days the Minnies had something like 50% more pilots than us, although things are more equal than that nowadays.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.20 10:23:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 20/05/2009 10:30:42
Originally by: Jade Constantine
I liken the whole thing to a resistance movement of idealistic freedom loving heroes opposing a well organized occupying power backed by a neighbouring superpower. 24th Crusade has numbers and fleet experience, spies and sabateurs, strategic weaponry and support pacts with its proxy master in Providence.
I prefer to to liken the TLF to a band of no-hope dead-enders who hate the Empire for its success in civilising a large chunk of the cluster, but that's the beauty of RP
Regarding the 24th Crusade having a numbers advantage, we currently have 2736 pilots compared to the Minmatar militia's 3192. Of course, if you're suggesting that each of ours is worth two of theirs, then you might have a point!
As for spies, it's not as one sided as you make out. We've discovered a few undercover Minnies in our time and our militia channel is still considered to be the last place to post fleet movements. I'd like to take this opportunity to re-affirm PIE's adversion to using alt spies and state that we will not have anyone in our ranks who uses them. Since when did SF become so anti-spy, anyway?
Finally, I think you over-estimate the CVA's impact on the war. Whilst a few of us do have long-standing agreements with them, most of the militia corps do not, and battlefield assistance from them is the exception rather than the rule. Indeed, on occasions the appearance of holder alliances in the are has caused a few headaches for us! Personally, I'd like to see less capital ships in FW rather than more - lets not make FW into the cap-fest that 0.0 often turns into!
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Booby Trap
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Posted - 2009.05.20 10:36:00 -
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Minmatar shouldn't get too excited by the arrival of dark rising. As soon as they lost a few fleet fights against caldari they left the gallents claiming to be bored. How long before they have recruited all the minmatar pvpers and leave them too. |
crockett EXE
Minmatar Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.05.20 11:16:00 -
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Edited by: crockett EXE on 20/05/2009 11:18:15
Originally by: Rodj Blake Personally, I'd like to see less capital ships in FW rather than more - lets not make FW into the cap-fest that 0.0 often turns into!
Yes, this I can agree with. It's why I hope there is a way to keep the null sec alliances out and to keep their impact at a min. FW from what I've seen is a ISK sink, but it can still be done on the cheap side to an extent as it is now.
Personally, I wish we could keep it all T1 cruisers down. Not just because I can't fly a BS mind you, but more so because it becomes too much of a weapons race once the BS/BC blobs start coming out. Once that happens, typically the only way a fight happens is by accident, that and they tend to be lag fests.
If I was in charge and was to redo FW.. one of the things I'd do, is to remove the acceleration gates at plexs. That would mean gank fleets couldn't sit on the gates to stop the T1 frig cruiser battles inside the plexes. The way it is now, it's always the race into the plex to and to get the gank fleet set up out side, which kills the entire theory behind them.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.20 12:04:00 -
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Quote:
I prefer to to liken the TLF to a band of no-hope dead-enders who hate the Empire for its success in civilising a large chunk of the cluster, but that's the beauty of RP
"Civilising" what?
If aggressively submitting and enslaving other populations is "civilising", how comes that slavery IRL is seen as a very negative thing of a bloody past to be forgotten?
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Finally, I think you over-estimate the CVA's impact on the war
Heh, CVA teached me how noob at the game I am.
I started the game as Minnie because I don't like lasers, nor drones nor missiles (so, no "min max" afterthought a la Caldari). I picked a red headed stepchildren alike character (see portrait) because I liked the overall looks not because of some inferiority complex or "political inclination". I wondered about how good an alliance had to be, to survive as NRDS entity, moreover heavy on roleplay (which I love).
I even thought asking joining them, as they looked like "the good, roleplay guys in an universe of treachery and no-laws competition".
And what do I end up reading?
That I am supposed to be their slave, that CVA kill those who 3 years before happened to join (a now defunct) KOS corp and then joined another neutral one (but the "sin" has been done). And that they are twisted evils aiding those slavers my corp put to pew pew against.
*Sighs*
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Minmatar shouldn't get too excited by the arrival of dark rising. As soon as they lost a few fleet fights against caldari they left the gallents claiming to be bored.
We were not bored, we just happen not to be really tied to FW, but are following a gradual plan posted on our forums since January. That plan includes "steps", and when we achieve the required pre-conditions the next step is engaged. If it involves moving in another system, then we pack our stuff and move.
If you check the systems we started from (Villore, then OMS, then Esesier, now Taff), you should exactly see what the program is and where's leading to and why.
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