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Rukia KuchikiSan
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Posted - 2009.05.20 15:54:00 -
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Since I don't know any of the candidates, i've read all the interviews that i've found on several blogs.
Well, i discovered that ALL of them gave noobish answers to any question, someone didn't know anything about some game mechanics, but was sadly speaking like he was a university teacher. Someone simply and clearly gave the same answer of someone that was interviewed before him, someone said 'i don't know' too many times, someone gave simply crazy answers (something like "if i was <insert a powerful person> i would have done <insert something incredibly stupid>".
Long story short, all the interviewed guys sadly looks like a bunch of noobs, dangerous for this game, and i'm a bit worried of what they will be capable to do.
I hope facts will prove that i'm wrong.
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.05.20 15:56:00 -
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there are at least 2 very expeianced people on that list -- RaTTuS @ InEve, Capital Prints for sale |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.05.20 15:56:00 -
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There's always Mr.Abstain to vote for. That's who I chose. Best method to let them know how much they suck. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Jobby
Minmatar UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.05.20 15:56:00 -
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Just hit the abstain button like I did. It's utterly pointless anyway.
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Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.05.20 15:57:00 -
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I'll vote for whichever candidate is getting me a fuel bay on mah black ops >.>
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.05.20 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cypherous I'll vote for whichever candidate is getting me a fuel bay on mah black ops >.>
Code for this is already in the works and is most likely added in the next expansion along with ammo bays and ore bays. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Leaving Eve
Boo Hoo Federation
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Posted - 2009.05.20 16:00:00 -
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I voted for Cat, it was the only sensible choice tbh.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.05.20 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Leaving Eve I voted for Cat, it was the only sensible choice tbh.
lol Signature locked for discussing moderation. Navigator
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Shammalamma Dingdong
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Posted - 2009.05.20 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jobby Just hit the abstain button like I did. It's utterly pointless anyway.
Originally by: Leaving Eve I voted for Cat, it was the only sensible choice tbh.
yep. when voting for a 21-year old male cretin that likes to get a rise from people by pretending to be a teenage girl makes sense, you prove the notion that it's "utterly pointless"
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Jagga Spikes
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.20 16:39:00 -
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excuses, excuses, ...
there were three choices: 1) run for office yourself 2) vote for someone 3) don't care
if you choose 3), then obviously you can't be "worried of what they (candidates) will be capable to do".
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Researcher Anabiosis
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Posted - 2009.05.20 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Rukia KuchikiSan Since I don't know any of the candidates, i've read all the interviews that i've found on several blogs.
Well, i discovered that ALL of them gave noobish answers to any question, someone didn't know anything about some game mechanics, but was sadly speaking like he was a university teacher. Someone simply and clearly gave the same answer of someone that was interviewed before him, someone said 'i don't know' too many times, someone gave simply crazy answers (something like "if i was <insert a powerful person> i would have done <insert something incredibly stupid>".
I haven't seen any of the interviews - can anyone point me towards them?
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Rukia KuchikiSan
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Posted - 2009.05.20 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jagga Spikes excuses, excuses, ...
there were three choices: 1) run for office yourself 2) vote for someone 3) don't care
1: i can't, i don't have time and i don't speak a fluent english 2: i'd love to, but nobody seems good 3: how can i? i do care for this game, i don't want it to be ruined
Originally by: Jagga Spikes
if you choose 3), then obviously you can't be "worried of what they (candidates) will be capable to do".
We all play the same game, how can i be indifferent to what happen or could happen?
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.05.20 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jagga Spikes 1) run for office yourself
And waste your time dealing with people that are so utterly full of themselves they forgot what they're supposed to be doing in the CSM and instead spend their time with political stupid talk and propaganda?
Quote: 2) vote for someone
Mr.Abstain is a valid voting option as defined by the voting mechanics installed by CCP. He only needs to take up a seat if he gets enough votes to stay a visible stain, showing off the CSM's failure.
Quote: 3) don't care
About 90-92% of the player base does not care or vote. I do care enough about the CSM and the purpose it could serve for CCP and the players to express my disgust at the mutated abomination we currently have in a simple vote for Mr. Abstain. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Bunyip
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2009.05.20 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Researcher Anabiosis I haven't seen any of the interviews - can anyone point me towards them?
The interviews are here. I also have a list of the candidates which seem to have dedication and the thought power required for the job of a CSM here.
For those who don't want to vote, it is your right, but realize that the CSM hold a very influential and busy position in their role. You can wear your tin-foil hats if you want, but after serving on the council for this term, I know just how important our role is as liaisons between CCP and the playerbase.
Some would try to tell you that there is more to the position than that, but we're basically only liaisons and filters for ideas from both sides. If you think the role of CSM is worthless, we should also get rid of all diplomats and ambassadors, as they fill essentially the same role as CSM members.
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Admiral IceBlock
Caldari Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2009.05.20 19:01:00 -
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Quote: The interviews are here. I also have a list of the candidates which seem to have dedication and the thought power required for the job of a CSM here.
Hehe.
Maybe make a list of what you have against the other CSM candidates?
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Issler Dainze
Minmatar Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.05.20 20:06:00 -
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So interviews aside, not voting because you think all the candidates are "noobs" is a pretty weak reason. So a list of candidates I know are NOT noobs include (and this is not an endorsement but just a fact):
Cat O'Ninetails, Omber Zombie, Happy Joymaker, Ruri Dant, Extreme, Herschel Yamamoto and Vuk Lau. As for the rest of the candidates I haven't looked at them enough to say I KNOW they aren't "noobs" but honestly, I doubt any of them should be described that way.
As for me, "noob"? I feel like one all the time but somehow I've managed to continue to play Eve actively for over 4 years, my corp founded over three years ago is still active and healthy with 140 members. Oh, and my alliance is now over a year old. So either Eve is insanely easy to play or I figured out at least some small part of the game.
I hope you'll look again at some of the candidates and find one that you could support. If you can't decide you couldn't go wrong voting for any of the candidates I listed in my "not a noob" list.
I hope you do find a way to participate in the process.
Issler
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Cyprus Black
Caldari Elitist Jerks Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.05.20 23:12:00 -
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Edited by: Cyprus Black on 20/05/2009 23:17:01
Here's what I've noticed after viewing all of the CSM's stances and issues:
-Some CSMs are just playing on the forum FotM issues with no real substance behind it.
-Some CSMs are making insane game altering promises that they obviously cannot keep.
-Some CSMs have openly admitted the only reason why they're running is for the free trip to Iceland.
-Some CSMs stand for nothing, have nothing to say, have no issues or agendas, and have barely said a word regarding their candidacy.
-Some CSMs are requiring all of their alliance members to vote for them, regardless if they agree or not.
-Some CSMs are just in it for the lulz.
-Most CSMs are trying to push 0.0 issues that most players in EvE really don't care about.
-Almost none of the CSMs give a damn about FW. Those that do treat it like a minor nuisance instead of a valid issue.
-Only one CSM bothered to mention the words "New" and "Player" in the same sentence, let alone address new player concerns. A vague issue this CSM candidate later retracted.
I could go on and on about all this CSM nonsense, but I think the point has been made. Don't act surprised when you see the voter turnout. ______________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn. |
Issler Dainze
Minmatar Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.05.20 23:33:00 -
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Cyprus brought up some things key that I admit I have not brought up in my campaign postings. First FW.
When it was introduced I created several splinter corps for members of my corp to leave to (one for each race) to try out FW. In the end none of us liked it much, but I see it still as important to many folks. I think if FW is important to you then then Erik and the "Take Care" party are a clear choice. I wouldn't claim to have the experience, knowledge or focus I believe Ahk has established as core to the party Erik represents.
As to new player experience. I haven't done much "outward facing" communications concerning the new player experience. What I did however, was buy the retail package as soon as it was available and started a new character outside any of my corp or alliance (I continue to leave that character a secret and play it regularly to continue to try and see Eve thorugh "fresh" eyes). I had a lot of feedback that was provided directly to CCP in our session about the last major patch. The summary is I think it has a lot stuff that needs attention.
For example the "new player guide" that came with the retail packaging was a not a hard copy (I felt that was a cheat) and largely useless and in many places misleading or wrong. For example it implied I could have a career as an 'artist" in Eve. Still looking for that skill!
I do not like the new "get your skills through missions" approach as compared to the get them when you roll the character.
I do like the reroll that came out sort of a result though.
I didn't find much in the new player missions that prepared me any better than what existed before the revamp.
So Eve remains a hard game to start out in. The question that begs then, how much of CCP's developer resources should go to improving that segement's experience verses the rest of the pilots in Eve? I hope for a balanced approach as I am all for a lot of new players but I also am concerned about the growing player base and he finite resources we all compete for.
Issler
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Cyprus Black
Caldari Elitist Jerks Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.05.20 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: Cyprus Black on 20/05/2009 23:54:08 Much love for you, Issler Dainze. I think you're just about the only one who's openly acknowledged the existence of new players.
I'm in the firm belief that there should indeed be some hand holding for brand new players. Not throughout their entire EvE experience, but just enough in the beginning to understand the fundamentals. I have also gone through the post Apocrypha new player experience and, imo, it does not teach the fundamentals.
We've all seen new players having to learn the hard way, often emoragequitting before they reach six months.
I was fortunate to have an EvE vet roommate who took the time to show me the ropes ingame. He was always there to shout answers down the hallway whenever I had a question. Not all new players have such a luxury.
I believe this should have been CCPs #1 priority. In a business sense, more players translates into more income. Disgruntled players who can't figure out what to do or how to play often leave which translates to loss of income.
EvE is, after all, an income generating source for CCP. New player attraction and retention should be top priority.
I don't believe EvE needs to change to accommodate new players. Rather I believe a better, clearer, and easy to understand tutorial is necessary.
______________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn. |
Garthran
Gallente CINDER INDUSTRIALS United Outworlders
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Posted - 2009.05.21 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cyprus Black -Only one CSM bothered to mention the words "New" and "Player" in the same sentence, let alone address new player concerns. A vague issue this CSM candidate later retracted.
To be honest, I don't think retracted is the right word. You asked for my stance on the subject, and I gave it to you, honestly. I didn't pander to what I knew you wanted to hear, I told you my opinion.
This is indicative of who I am and how I will behave in the CSM. I will stand by issues I feel are important, I will listen to arguments and consider all sides of a discussion, and I will give my honest opinion. I am not a tool to represent any specific power bloc or demographic, and I am not out to disrupt the purpose of the CSM by saying that one particular issue should be considered to be more important than all others.
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Garthran
Gallente CINDER INDUSTRIALS United Outworlders
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Posted - 2009.05.21 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar There's always Mr.Abstain to vote for. That's who I chose. Best method to let them know how much they suck.
By the way, thanks for this personal judgment. I would invite you to ask me questions that are important to you, or if you cannot think of pertinent questions I have not already answered, to perhaps hold your tongue.
If you are so completely dissatisfied with the state of the CSM, let me join others in suggesting that you run for yourself.
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Cyprus Black
Caldari Elitist Jerks Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.05.21 03:45:00 -
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Edited by: Cyprus Black on 21/05/2009 03:58:08
Originally by: Garthran If you are so completely dissatisfied with the state of the CSM, let me join others in suggesting that you run for yourself.
Personally I would love to run for CSM, finally giving new players a voice.
Unfortunately (well I consider it fortunate) I'm enlisted in the US military and I doubt they'd look kindly on going AWOL to attend a video game conference. Originally by: Garthran To be honest, I don't think retracted is the right word. You asked for my stance on the subject, and I gave it to you, honestly. I didn't pander to what I knew you wanted to hear, I told you my opinion.
This is indicative of who I am and how I will behave in the CSM. I will stand by issues I feel are important, I will listen to arguments and consider all sides of a discussion, and I will give my honest opinion. I am not a tool to represent any specific power bloc or demographic, and I am not out to disrupt the purpose of the CSM by saying that one particular issue should be considered to be more important than all others.
I have nothing to add to this Your words speak volumes about your character and intent. ______________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn. |
Garthran
Gallente CINDER INDUSTRIALS United Outworlders
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Posted - 2009.05.21 04:31:00 -
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Edited by: Garthran on 21/05/2009 04:33:36 If you'll read carefully, I think you'll find that none of those statements, even taken out of context as you have presented them here, are directly contradictory, though you seem happy to imagine that they are. However, this is the last I'll say on the matter, since you seem immediately ready to criticize but less forthcoming with constructive suggestions. This indicates to me that you will find fault, regardless of my response, and trying to convince you of anything else will be a waste of my time.
Fly safe.
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Abulurd Boniface
Gallente Mercantile Exchange for Mining And Exploration
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Posted - 2009.05.21 10:01:00 -
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I can't vote either.
That is: I click the button but nothing happens.
I want to vote!
1 million isk for the first person who gives me the right way to vote.
Abulurd Boniface ME ME CEO
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