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Poena Loveless
Minmatar Dawn of a new Empire
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Posted - 2009.05.22 04:21:00 -
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Make local delayed.
Subject almost says it all. 30 second delay on showing up in local would be is fine.
Enough to where you can actually load grid on jump in before all the full speed aligned ravens in the belt start their warp.
To be blunt, and pointing out the obvious, its sad how safe 0.0 really is. People not longer have to actively defend their space, just put poses up in every system and they will be safe.
Its the main culprit I assert in the whole capitals are the new cruiser phase eve is going through.
That is, unless ccp want to be more than just a game that farmers make a rl buck at....
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Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.05.22 05:06:00 -
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well that's one good way to push everyone back to missioning in empire......
seriously the risk/reward is already screwed towards empire and you wanna make it more risky? considering it's impossible to stop a cepter/cloaky ship from ninja'ing into your space it's now gonna completely screw over the risk even more.
ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
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Ace Fire
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Posted - 2009.05.22 07:57:00 -
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Danger? In my 0.0? INTOLERABLE!
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.05.22 10:34:00 -
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I would prefer that local in 0.0 be put into Recent Speakers mode, like w-space systems, instead of the 30 second delay.
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Esk Esme
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2009.05.22 11:36:00 -
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yea wh space local in 0.0 would be great signed
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WillageGirl
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.05.22 11:48:00 -
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Definately put 0.0 local into delayed mode. That one simple thing would go miles into right direction with trying to make EVE fun again.
As for the risk vs. revard... it's a valid point and should be looked into, but deserves its own thread since it's completely another problem and only loosely related.
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Kell Braugh
Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.22 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri I would prefer that local in 0.0 be put into Recent Speakers mode, like w-space systems, instead of the 30 second delay.
yeah, but that is appently asking too much..
I think the 30 second in the OP being the same as a session timer is good since it also guarentees that thepilot will eventually show up in all 'locals' they enter.
@0.0 not being risky... Its not. You have a bigger chance getting suicide ganked in Motsu in your CNR than getting caught in a belt (if you are not afk/alt tabbed to your other 4-5 ratters in various systems)
This change will just demand that if people wanna be farming their backsystems, they better have a defensive solution more than just pos spamming. People should be protected by their own resources, not the protection thats built into the game that provides them with automatic, free, never fail intel. - In essence, any combat related activity involving damage has been 'speed nerfed' to just take 6 times longer with a predetermined outcome coined balance by CCP. |
Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.05.22 21:39:00 -
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Quote: seriously the risk/reward is already screwed towards empire and you wanna make it more risky? considering it's impossible to stop a cepter/cloaky ship from ninja'ing into your space it's now gonna completely screw over the risk even more.
Then nerf empire.
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Valandril
Caldari Ex-Mortis
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Posted - 2009.05.22 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Quote: seriously the risk/reward is already screwed towards empire and you wanna make it more risky? considering it's impossible to stop a cepter/cloaky ship from ninja'ing into your space it's now gonna completely screw over the risk even more.
Then nerf empire.
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Clansworth
Good Rock Materials
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Posted - 2009.05.23 08:01:00 -
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Click on Intel in my sig for a good solution.
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Kell Braugh
Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Clansworth Click on Intel in my sig for a good solution.
I like your idea, but i honestly think thats a bigger, more in depth change.
All we are asking for is a simple switch of local to be a 30 second delay before you show up.
Oh, and wormspace uses RECENT SPEAKERS mode, so you ONLY show up if you talk. I think for 0.0 thats too much. You should have notice if someone passes thorough a system, otherwise it game changing. Local 'chat' was made for just that. Chatting with people in the same system as you. The problem is in 0.0 (and low sec for that matter, but to a lesser extent) it is used--also exclusively, for intel.
Picture this: A player is ratting in a belt with a Raven. It takes him about 11 seconds (max) to align and warp from a full stop, turning the maximum 180 degrees.
A player jumps in, let say he is in a HAC. He'll have about 5 seconds (after he appears in local) before his grid loads, plus 10 seconds to align and warp + 1 second for every 3ish AU he warps. So if the Raven is in a belt 6 AU from the gate, he has 17 seconds + the amount of time it takes said HAC to use his ninja powers to scan down said Raven, usually 5-15 seconds for me personally to warp out.
So basically anyone already in a system has a good 25+ seconds to hit warp on a jump in to be guaranteed safe. - In essence, any combat related activity involving damage has been 'speed nerfed' to just take 6 times longer with a predetermined outcome coined balance by CCP. |
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