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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.05.25 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Liath That should policy should also be in effect on the original post. No constructive content in post -> Delete. People get sick and tired of the same questions asked over and over because people don't have the willpower to search or browse. That's when flaming arise.
Kinda like this thread.
So go away.
The forum search here has never worked worth a damn, at least not well enough for people to actually use it. EVE-Search.com does it perfectly, but isn't pushed anywhere here except by other players, so how the **** is a new player supposed to just magically know to use it?
It does suck as someone who's been here since the beginning, to watch the forums circle the drain like they've been doing for years. This is why the constructive folks have just moved on.
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 18:06:00 -
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it also mainly because many people cant hack eve so they tend to go to the forum to suggest stupid, game braking ideas that they like from other more popular MMO and fell every MMO should be a copy past of each other.
TBH you call it forums evil and stupid and arrogant but i say it compassion and love for this game that we hate all others that come with these stupid idea and try to change it to the mainstream.
also the game itself is hard to grasp, unfriendly enviroment where you arnt helped by your fellow man but the man standing next to you will exploit your need to gain the upper hand and take your wealth. Is it really surprising that you expected this community sit kindly while you suggest that "concord is weak" when it is yourself that were carrying the 10 billion worth in a paper thin ship. or shard the server so that everyone has a equal change.
life isnt fair and neither is this game.
this has been a post of great detail and no trolling from Armoured C, my forums are mine |
Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.05.25 18:08:00 -
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Yup, the moderation is appalling. I've recently reported threads where people were responding simply with "**** off", threads where players tell other players to die in real life, etc. and not one of them gets moderated.
Meanwhile, harmless, light-hearted threads get locked by the Gestapo. Go on then, do your worst. |
Sim Cognito
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Posted - 2009.05.25 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Sorry but its true..after reading alot of posts on the forums. Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life. And it seems to be a growing breed.. Everyone who posts and yes everyone anything if its game changes, suggestions, or just general stuff, all you guys do (and there is a alot) is tell them to leave the game, get lost, idiots, tell them to die..Hardly any of you give constructive information or can actually have a conversation..Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves...
HAHAHAHA....wait until you see the WoW community...people there will definetely surprise you |
Speaker Dead
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Posted - 2009.05.25 18:23:00 -
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Sorry, the goonies have been breeding...
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.05.25 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zaqar Yup, the moderation is appalling. I've recently reported threads where people were responding simply with "**** off", threads where players tell other players to die in real life, etc. and not one of them gets moderated.
Meanwhile, harmless, light-hearted threads get locked by the Gestapo. Go on then, do your worst.
Playing devil's advocate, I'm sure there's a gigantic queue for the moderation team to sift through. Half of those items are probably someone just disagreeing with someone instead of having an actual proper excuse for reporting a post.
I'm sure the obvious response someone will make to that is that they should just hire more staff. *shrug*
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Rosefine
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Posted - 2009.05.25 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rosefine It would have been perfect for all in the forum if there was the possibility of blocking just the same as the EVE chat
In Eve, there is a function of instant messaging called block
and it is such a relief and such there.
Why can not EVE's forum to be no block?
it would have been much nicer for everyone in all the roles in which
type trolls just want to be everywhere also pirates only to be amongst
pirates and carebearing with carebearing or type of civil with
civil and so on.
In Ambulation so talk CCP that you can choose your environment in the surrounding
but why not the same thing in the forum?
If the forum blocks existed as a forum thread had been completely different for everyone and those who want to see or interest.
One thread had become a thousand and a thousand had become one!
One for all and all for one |
Flauschig Katzchen
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Posted - 2009.05.25 19:19:00 -
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Greater Internet ****wad Theory
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.25 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Sorry but its true..after reading alot of posts on the forums. Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life. And it seems to be a growing breed.. Everyone who posts and yes everyone anything if its game changes, suggestions, or just general stuff, all you guys do (and there is a alot) is tell them to leave the game, get lost, idiots, tell them to die..Hardly any of you give constructive information or can actually have a conversation..Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves...
A forum is only as good as the moderating staff.
Enough said.
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Claudia Voltaire
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Posted - 2009.05.25 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Zaqar Yup, the moderation is appalling. I've recently reported threads where people were responding simply with "**** off", threads where players tell other players to die in real life, etc. and not one of them gets moderated.
Meanwhile, harmless, light-hearted threads get locked by the Gestapo. Go on then, do your worst.
Playing devil's advocate, I'm sure there's a gigantic queue for the moderation team to sift through. Half of those items are probably someone just disagreeing with someone instead of having an actual proper excuse for reporting a post.
I'm sure the obvious response someone will make to that is that they should just hire more staff. *shrug*
Thats a pure excuse, they wouldn't need more staff if they took a harsher stance against offenders.
By letting it roll the way they do, it only encourages more people to do the same.
Once you let it be known whats not acceptable, less crap gets posted, the forum community becomes self moderating in itself. I could point you to a number of forums where this is the case, the few that try to disrupt these forums are stomped on hard by the patrons of the forums, they simpley give up trying, the 'few' that don't are easy to weed out and remove by the small moderating teams.
The problem with this forum is the unacceptable is more the norm, why most people just don't bother with the board, they leave it alone knowing it's a thankless task asking for a fairer place. |
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Apotamkin
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Posted - 2009.05.25 23:16:00 -
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OP is right. This community is no different than WoW at all. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Apotamkin OP is right. This community is no different than WoW at all.
Except that we don't complain about WoW as much.
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Jernau Riggs
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Posted - 2009.05.26 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jernau Riggs on 26/05/2009 00:07:59 There are many of us that would like to see more strict moderation.
Many people spend their lives in this forum and as such think they own it so when a topic turns up that has been posted before they believe they are entitiled to dish that person.
These people need to learn that they do not own the forum and that other people are allowed post stuff here, just cause it has been posted before does not mean it cannot be posted again and a whole new batch of people will see it for the first time every time.
I would like to see ccp bring in new rules and rude comments in posts or can i have your stuff rubbish should get a 2 week posting ban from the forums, do it 3 times and you get a life time ban, that simple
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2009.05.26 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Most people I speak to in game avoid the forums like the plague due to the cesspool it has become.
I know several MMOs that do have mature forums such as Ultima Online and Guild Wars, but those tend to be much better moderated, at least a lot stricter. No constructive content in post -> Delete.
Hit the nail on the head there - lack of moderation..
x2. Why did they get rid of all the voluntary moderators a few years ago anyway? I guess there must have been a good reason, but it never made any sense from my perspective. The forums have gone steadily down hill since then. Effective pro-active moderation makes for a better forum, but here, it doesn't seem to go much beyond suppressing potential bad press for ccp, and beyond that just responding to what is reported.
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Silver Night
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 00:46:00 -
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Yet another thing we're the best at. Thanks. --------------
The Clown Man. GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Sansha's Nation Supporter
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Sharp Feather
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.05.26 01:07:00 -
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The problem is the moderation wich is way too permissive. =================================================
Before: creators loved games and made money. Now: creators love money and make games. |
Sharp Feather
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.05.26 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Nooma K'Larr
A forum is only as good as the moderating staff.
Enough said.
Quoting for emphasis. =================================================
Before: creators loved games and made money. Now: creators love money and make games. |
Mire Stoude
Cash Money Brothers
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Posted - 2009.05.26 01:19:00 -
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can I has your stuff?
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Sir Substance
Minmatar The Empire Nation Dead Mans Hand
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Posted - 2009.05.26 02:04:00 -
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the forums are hilarious!
if you cant see the hilarity, then you shouldn't be here.
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PattonIsTehLeetPilot
Amarr Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 02:17:00 -
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never played battlefield 2 did you?
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.26 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Substance the forums are hilarious!
if you cant see the hilarity, then you shouldn't be here.
/signed _________________________ NERF CLONES!!!
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Spurty
Caldari Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 03:00:00 -
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OP needs to invest some days reading CAOD.
Possibly miss reading ego as arrogance.
Good luck with your crusade. Not everyone in this game is a munchkin though, I consider some of the people that post on these forums very intelligent and able minded people.
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Thus I AM BETTER THAN YOU.
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nails
Caldari Ota Corps
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Posted - 2009.05.26 03:02:00 -
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Edited by: nails on 26/05/2009 03:03:51 Trust me, these forums arn't bad at all, unless you come from fantasy forums with rainbows and unicorns. You want bad, you have to see 3rd party (unofficial) forums for planetside mmos. EVE might create alot of bloodlust and noob bashing, but the back end sense of general community is still there for the people that believe in the game. 3rd party forums are like slaughter houses for the most part, bar none mass noob bashing, and player ripping. Compared to that the EVE forums are candy land. I wouldn't worry about it so much. Every community has it's bad fish, the question is, why do you evem let those people get to you? --------------
http://nails.otaku.jp/ota-corps/ |
Stormwind Bloodfeather
Minmatar Diablo Advocatus
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Posted - 2009.05.26 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Sorry but its true..after reading alot of posts on the forums. Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life. And it seems to be a growing breed.. Everyone who posts and yes everyone anything if its game changes, suggestions, or just general stuff, all you guys do (and there is a alot) is tell them to leave the game, get lost, idiots, tell them to die..Hardly any of you give constructive information or can actually have a conversation..Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves...
Your thoughts and opinions are duly noted, and promptly ignored as irrelevant and worthless. WOW is HERE, don't let the door hit you in the assets on the way out! Oh and of course the obligatory:
Can I have your stuff?
~SB
In EVE, your only friend is your ship and it's weapons. All others are the enemy! |
Rick Rothsar
Black Rose Administration Black Rose Syndicate.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 03:14:00 -
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lol
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Cloora
APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.05.26 03:23:00 -
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No the OP is correct. This game is worst then all the MMOs I have played. So at least MxO, DDO, and LOTRO. All MMO forums have arrogance but EVE forum community takes the cake.
Being rude to the OP of a stupid idea is all fine and dandy, but EvE's forum community trashes ANY idea and any valid complaint.
ANY AND ALL.
Which is really pointless. If you don't like someone's idea then post a reason WHY. Don't just tell them DIAF and they are a n00b.
Be constructive with your critisism and as positive as you can.
I remember when I played DDO the mods there cracked down and would slam the ban hammer on anyone who thought they could be a trash poster.
I really wish EvE's mods did the same. Just because the game is a sandbox doesn't mean the forums have to be too.
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EVEHelpisSeriousBusiness
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Posted - 2009.05.26 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Sorry but its true..after reading alot of posts on the forums. Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life. And it seems to be a growing breed.. Everyone who posts and yes everyone anything if its game changes, suggestions, or just general stuff, all you guys do (and there is a alot) is tell them to leave the game, get lost, idiots, tell them to die..Hardly any of you give constructive information or can actually have a conversation..Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves...
GB2WoW idiot. Die in a fire.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.05.26 04:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cloora ...stuff
Being rude to the OP of a stupid idea is all fine and dandy, but EvE's forum community trashes ANY idea and any valid complaint.
ANY AND ALL.
..more stuff
really?
Seems to me your idea didn't interest that many people, but the one that commented was supportive. I'm sure many would disagree with it though, but you did the right thing and posted in a correct forum, didn't try to ruin the game and weren't offencive in your post. The EVE community must have been on vacation, since the thrashing of your idea is missing from the thread.
I'm sure if you had posted in the general discussion forum the replies would have been more numerous and a little harsher. The nature of these forums are different, and here everyone can express their oppinion even when they don't really have a clue what they are talking about. Some just want to express their feelings on the issue instead of writing an analytic scientific essey on the matter. If you don't care what other players feel about the issue, don't post your ideas here. Posting in the features and ideas forum will filter out most of the trolls and flames, if your idea is even half decent.
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Jenny Twotone
Black Marsh X
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Posted - 2009.05.26 04:19:00 -
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As a former director of a new player friendly corp. I helped train hundreds of new pilots in eve to do their thing, whatever it was.
I encouraged an atmosphere of helpful nurturing growth and answered tens of thousands upon thousands of questions relating to every aspect of EVE. And I met a lot of people who do the same thing every day.
Open your mind and be an intelligent, critical thinking, adult, Instead of the petulant whining brat you sound like in your opening post, and you'll get a lot more help.
Welcome to EVE, where only the persistent and clever survive.
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Grampaa
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Posted - 2009.05.26 05:11:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Sorry but its true..after reading alot of posts on the forums. Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life. And it seems to be a growing breed.. Everyone who posts and yes everyone anything if its game changes, suggestions, or just general stuff, all you guys do (and there is a alot) is tell them to leave the game, get lost, idiots, tell them to die..Hardly any of you give constructive information or can actually have a conversation..Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves...
You never been to the Darkfall cesspit then?
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