Karentaki
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.05.27 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: ZW Dewitt
Originally by: lollerwaffle Yes, mission runners have that risk of getting their ship suicide ganked. Now, would you care to elaborate how you would go about suiciding a tanked combat ship in hisec? Scan him out and hit his weakest resist? With the ridiculously overtanked ships people use to run their level 4 missions, even hitting a resist hole would mean applying anything between 30-40k dmg before concord kills you.
Let's run some numbers based on simple but close enough assumptions. NUMBERS
In another post, I have elaborated slightly more on miscalculations etc inside the mission.
I look forwards to your reply.
Nicely done, now do the same for a freighter moving goods between trade hubs. Or how about, run the numbers on traders who NEVER UNDOCK and do all their trading without shuffling goods between stations/systems, how much would it take to suicide gank them?
Mission runners face the same risk as your theoretical trader moving between hubs. As you stated above, the mission doesn't change, but the second time you do it there may be a gank squad waiting for you. Exactly the same as the second time you move between hubs.
Likewise, if you make mistakes you can lose ships inside missions resulting in a loss of ISK. There is risk, as you say, "however minimal". Where is the risk in selling PLEX again? Nerf that.
Can you ever go into a mission and come out with less ISK than you started with? For 90% of mission runners the answer is no. Once you know the way the missions work and you know what every trigger and spawn is, then there is no risk. You can do exactly the same thing every time, and short of being stupid you will always complete the mission.
For a trader, sure there is no risk from ship combat, but there is risk from someone undercutting them, or the market they are trading in collapsing while they still have large amounts of stock. With missions you are competing with a 100% predictable computer that will do almost exactly the same thing every time. With trading you are competing with other players who are just as smart, greedy and manipulative as you. They can do exactly the same to you as you can to them. If you slip up for a millisecond they will pounce on you and beat you, taking any profit you might have earned. With one misjudged buy order you can lose billions.
Now, which would you say is more risky?
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Karentaki
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.05.27 20:15:00 -
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Let us imagine a hypothetical situation for a moment. I have a button that allows me to kill anyone anywhere at any time in the EVE universe.
Originally by: Hurtado Soneka all i see are whiners crying over my I-WIN button and even some idiots thinking the button is overpowered (lol), theyre aint nothing wrong with the I-WIN button, it is working as intended and I play eve and kill random people and I am obviously enjoying it the way it is. Am thinking some people are jealous of my I-WIN button, and this cry thread is proof of it.
Would this argument be valid in that situation?
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EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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