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Vidi Angelus
Caldari Crystal Dynamics Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.05.27 22:44:00 -
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I'm not usually one to complain - I love this game, but it seems a bit ridiculous that CCP has yet to make the docking reliable.
I had to leave in a hurry earlier to drive the kids about, and clicked dock and ran out the door, to return to find myself in the wrong station. I'm not complaining, After insurance on the blackbird I make money including fittings.
but what irks me is the fact that CCP can't simply put in a paragraph of code telling the client to try to dock, and then try again in 30 seconds (30 seconds for if there's a session timer).
Its extremely irritating when somebody IRL calls/quick emergency, and you have to stay at the computer ensuring that the client does its job. Frankly, it reeks of amateurism that CCP hasn't sorted this, Its embarrassing.
Seriously, 3 or 4 lines of code, Really? Shame on you CCP.
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masternerdguy
Gallente Point of No Return Blade.
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Posted - 2009.05.27 22:46:00 -
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the idea is to make you vulnurable.
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Spurty
Caldari Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.05.27 22:49:00 -
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I yank the power on the computer in those situations, never trusting it again after slow boating an obelisk 90km from a station to go upstairs and eat dinner
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Thus I AM BETTER THAN YOU.
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.27 22:55:00 -
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ctrl q is your emergency dock :P OFFLINE[ONLINE]
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Vidi Angelus
Caldari Crystal Dynamics Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.05.27 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: masternerdguy the idea is to make you vulnurable.
Is that the offical word from CCP? It seems to me more like the warp in isn't always exactly right and the client tries to dock immediately after leaving warp, causing the dock to fail, far too often.
If this is the word from CCP I'll be very disappointed.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.05.27 23:02:00 -
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This one belongs in Issues & Workarounds.
FWIW, whether it's jumping through a gate or docking at a station, I usually sit there mashing the button until I see the "Session change already in progress" or "Docking operation in progress, try again in 28 seconds" appear.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.27 23:03:00 -
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Our logs show nothing
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Alex Raptos
Caldari Phoenix Rising.
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Posted - 2009.05.27 23:07:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker Our logs show nothing
Our?
Originally by: Dirk Magnum I've become gay for Mark Harmon despite my initial reservations about the show NCIS but nobody will ever know
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Vidi Angelus
Caldari Crystal Dynamics Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.05.27 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn This one belongs in Issues & Workarounds.
FWIW, whether it's jumping through a gate or docking at a station, I usually sit there mashing the button until I see the "Session change already in progress" or "Docking operation in progress, try again in 28 seconds" appear.
Yeah the problem is when RL calls and you have to leave the computer, which for a lot of people, is multiple times a day.
I like the idea of logging off, but if you've got an aggression time, it's just as likely to get you killed as buggy docking.
I just don't see any reason CCP hasn't sorted this (Speaking as a programmer by trade)
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2009.05.27 23:10:00 -
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Moved to Issues & Workarounds.
Mitnal Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us |
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.27 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Vidi Angelus
Originally by: Mara Rinn This one belongs in Issues & Workarounds.
FWIW, whether it's jumping through a gate or docking at a station, I usually sit there mashing the button until I see the "Session change already in progress" or "Docking operation in progress, try again in 28 seconds" appear.
Yeah the problem is when RL calls and you have to leave the computer, which for a lot of people, is multiple times a day.
I like the idea of logging off, but if you've got an aggression time, it's just as likely to get you killed as buggy docking.
I just don't see any reason CCP hasn't sorted this (Speaking as a programmer by trade)
you have no idea
if you have agression they still have to scan you down that the obligatory easy cull because you really pressed warp instead of dock.
i myself have had no problem with the docking of stations
i know myself when i havnt press dock but warp if you have a emergency log off
as then if they dont have a scanner in the system then they cant find you. it much better as if i were you id would think logging isnt less riskier since you seem to have the bug. OFFLINE[ONLINE]
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Vidi Angelus
Caldari Crystal Dynamics Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.05.27 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
Originally by: Vidi Angelus
Originally by: Mara Rinn This one belongs in Issues & Workarounds.
FWIW, whether it's jumping through a gate or docking at a station, I usually sit there mashing the button until I see the "Session change already in progress" or "Docking operation in progress, try again in 28 seconds" appear.
Yeah the problem is when RL calls and you have to leave the computer, which for a lot of people, is multiple times a day.
I like the idea of logging off, but if you've got an aggression time, it's just as likely to get you killed as buggy docking.
I just don't see any reason CCP hasn't sorted this (Speaking as a programmer by trade)
you have no idea
if you have agression they still have to scan you down that the obligatory easy cull because you really pressed warp instead of dock.
i myself have had no problem with the docking of stations
i know myself when i havnt press dock but warp if you have a emergency log off
as then if they dont have a scanner in the system then they cant find you. it much better as if i were you id would think logging isnt less riskier since you seem to have the bug.
In the 0.0 I spend my time in, Theres pretty much always a red alt with a scanner.
Even if it is less risky, Its still a risky solution to a problem that should never have existed.
And This isn't about clicking warp to instead of dock, this is about clicking dock and it not docking. Yes I did click dock, because the message told me it was trying to dock on the warp to the station, and at the station.
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Lyvanna Kitaen
Minmatar Noonday Sun Corp
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Posted - 2009.05.28 01:16:00 -
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I always assumed CCP left this in to screw with macros. Of course, you still see macros so it obviously isn't the cure-all it was hoped to be.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.05.28 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Vidi Angelus Yeah the problem is when RL calls and you have to leave the computer, which for a lot of people, is multiple times a day.
I like the idea of logging off, but if you've got an aggression time, it's just as likely to get you killed as buggy docking.
I'd argue that Ctrl+Q is far more reliable than clicking "Dock" in a "walking away from the computer" scenario.
Quote: I just don't see any reason CCP hasn't sorted this (Speaking as a programmer by trade)
I write web applications for a living. I'm a DB admin and designer. The biggest databases I work with have hundreds of thousands of records, and deal with tens of thousands of transactions a day. My most complex forms involve about ten times as much JavaScript as server-side code. My total codebase is about 30k lines of code. Even at this scale of work, I'm aware that the software I'm writing is beyond the ability of one person to comprehend completely in their head.
It may turn out that the process of warping a ship to a station and docking is a little more complicated than debugging an AJAX web interface.
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.05.28 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lyvanna Kitaen I always assumed CCP left this in to screw with macros. Of course, you still see macros so it obviously isn't the cure-all it was hoped to be.
Same here. I just find it extremely irritating.
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
EXTERMINATUS. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.05.28 02:32:00 -
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I too believe this has been left in intentionally.
If you watch the client, you will notice that this only happens when you come out of warp at the station already at 0km. The client docking script is looking for a distance change from non-zero to zero.
So if you come out of warp at a non-zero distance, and then your ship approaches...it will auto-dock as expected. If you come out of warp at 0km, then it will NOT dock as expected.
The fix really should be easy...and this problem use to not exist...at least you did not hit it in the past.
Originally by: CCP Whisper No it is not an official statement. Not everything surrounded by blue bars is an official statement which can be quoted as fact until the end of time. Deal with it.
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Callista Sincera
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Posted - 2009.05.28 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn I too believe this has been left in intentionally.
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The fix really should be easy...and this problem use to not exist...at least you did not hit it in the past.
It's been in for at least a year now. Intentionally? Maybe, but that would be pretty stupid. Any macro designed to dock would simply spam docking requests for a couple of seconds.
The only thing this really does is annoy honest players and cause them to spam the servers with repeated requests. But obviously it's not bad enough, otherwise it would have been fixed said year ago.
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Vidi Angelus
Caldari Crystal Dynamics Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.05.28 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Vidi Angelus on 28/05/2009 17:53:24
Originally by: Lyvanna Kitaen I always assumed CCP left this in to screw with macros. Of course, you still see macros so it obviously isn't the cure-all it was hoped to be.
If anything, its likely to turn normal players to use macros. This is a prime example of a legitimate use for a macro. you just need to set the macro to spam dock after a few seconds.
Originally by: Mara Rinn
Originally by: Vidi Angelus Yeah the problem is when RL calls and you have to leave the computer, which for a lot of people, is multiple times a day.
I like the idea of logging off, but if you've got an aggression time, it's just as likely to get you killed as buggy docking.
I'd argue that Ctrl+Q is far more reliable than clicking "Dock" in a "walking away from the computer" scenario.
Quote: I just don't see any reason CCP hasn't sorted this (Speaking as a programmer by trade)
I write web applications for a living. I'm a DB admin and designer. The biggest databases I work with have hundreds of thousands of records, and deal with tens of thousands of transactions a day. My most complex forms involve about ten times as much JavaScript as server-side code. My total codebase is about 30k lines of code. Even at this scale of work, I'm aware that the software I'm writing is beyond the ability of one person to comprehend completely in their head.
It may turn out that the process of warping a ship to a station and docking is a little more complicated than debugging an AJAX web interface.
I dont pretend to understand anything near the whole program, I agree its beyond my comprehension. But 99% of that code is run on the server, the client is just a dumb terminal.
This means when the dock button is pressed the client tells the server it wants to try to dock, To tell this to repeat the same action after a set amount of time is trivial. All that needs to be changed is the client repeating an action it already performs after a set amount of time. Just like the macro example above, A couple of lines of code. Simple as you can get.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.05.30 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lyvanna Kitaen I always assumed CCP left this in to screw with macros. Of course, you still see macros so it obviously isn't the cure-all it was hoped to be.
Why would you even assume that? Do you even know what a macro is? This would be an inconvenience for legitimate players only and have absolutely zero effect on macros.
BTW, it has nothing to do with using a dock command from warp range (ie: warp-docking). This can occur anytime you're outside of immediate dock range and you give a docking command. That means 2 AUs away or 2 kms away. And if you come out of warp within 0km of a station, you can still end up just sitting in space.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. |
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