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Xathytoz
Gallente Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Xathytoz on 06/06/2009 11:42:11 Oh brother...
(I'm not a forum warrior, but if someone feels like it, there are enough quotes earlier on in this topic to be brought up in direct comparism to what Celestius was just stating in his last 3 posts on this page.)
First of all, Phoenix is damn right. I don't really think anyone down there (except for Zedrik himself) is really around your lot for ThGuy. Sure, the story about the happenings in Jita (page 1/2) have been very entertaining to read and made people getting hooked up with this thread. What some (I'd even say the majority by now) got interested in checking your spots out though is caused all by yourself. The big words about you being such a pvp-vet who's up for fights and having a +1500-member coalition around. You were stating that Zed is not causing any serious troubles, nor would be the loss of a few indies and 2 BS any relevant. Now, a few days on Zed has 3 recruits (not the oldest from what I know) down there (who are not all there simultaneously), one pirate with his alt who's actually unselective by picking his targets (means, he's not after your corp specifically) and a "C&P friend" who's turning up at the wrong times of the day according to one of your local statements. All in together the ods have shifted from 1 to 1500 to 6 to 1500 (and only 4 of them able to attack you in empire under war-conditions)... At least on the paper that is. And now this ofc means so much more trouble to your guys than zed alone. Wow, I see, strong coalition you got there.
Basically it comes down to this: You've been barking very loud, tried to back-pedal, damage control and ego-boost which now, as you seem to realize slowly, will get your car hitting the wall. You're thinking it's about ThGuy? It isn't. You think it's personal? Neither that. But it's plain fun for a small group to see how the cardhouse of big words and hot breath is going to fold. =) hey, you've been in a Goon corp... Guess, why they are all spamming CAOD so loud. Kenny was eating its words... You are currently eating your words. That's just what brings entertainment to people - far from being personal in any way. it's the process of eating words, indifferent who it is. :) |
Larana Randie
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:51:00 -
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BTW...Cel...if you do give in now, you will be the corp who decleared defeat in a war with a corp of 4 players. That in itself is full of lulz :P
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Liitar
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Larana Randie you will be the ALLIANCE who decleared defeat in a war with a corp of 4 players.
Fixed that for you
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Dracoknight
The Directorate Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:56:00 -
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The most awsomething about this thread: if TheGy didnt Smacktalk, this would never happen... So heres the moral: Never Smacktalk, it may lead to Epic Fail :D ____________________
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Liitar
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:57:00 -
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PAGE 11 SNIPAH!
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Celestius al'Rhaytian
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Celestius al''Rhaytian on 06/06/2009 11:59:31 Well really the stuff about the coalition wasn't about our current one. we used to live in a space from a coalition down in Genisis. That's where that came from. and when most of the argument (and forum smacktalk) took place. Since we've joined this alliance 40 jumps from where we were I havn't really smacked talked much or said anything untowered aside from local chats.
So if everyone is getting on the band wagon because of stuff that was said about a region 40 jumps from our current space. Well your few days to late. But I apologize for the confusion on that.
Honestly I thought the whole thing would drop once we moved since we didn't post on here or bother Zed till he started bothering us again. Like I said over 90% of everything said by us was done when we were in the Genisis region and didnt have to bother with anyone but ourselves.
Now that we are actually in an alliance its causing issues whereas before we just didn't care about it. So the problmes we are having with all of this isn't that we cant handle it or were bragging about whatever, its that it has now become inconvieniant and anoying and is taking our attention off of much more important and pressing matters.
I mean I suppose we could just ignore you all down there take the losses and just wait till you get bored. But that doesnt solve the issues its causeing for the alliance. So we contacted Zed and opted to end it so we could go back to doing what really maters to us as a corp and as a part of the allience.
I will be talking to xerscia today hopfully we can get this resolved within the next 24 hours.
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Wraaknemer
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Xathytoz Edited by: Xathytoz on 06/06/2009 11:42:11 Oh brother...
(I'm not a forum warrior, but if someone feels like it, there are enough quotes earlier on in this topic to be brought up in direct comparism to what Celestius was just stating in his last 3 posts on this page.)
First of all, Phoenix is damn right. I don't really think anyone down there (except for Zedrik himself) is really around your lot for ThGuy. Sure, the story about the happenings in Jita (page 1/2) have been very entertaining to read and made people getting hooked up with this thread. What some (I'd even say the majority by now) got interested in checking your spots out though is caused all by yourself. The big words about you being such a pvp-vet who's up for fights and having a +1500-member coalition around. You were stating that Zed is not causing any serious troubles, nor would be the loss of a few indies and 2 BS any relevant. Now, a few days on Zed has 3 recruits (not the oldest from what I know) down there (who are not all there simultaneously), one pirate with his alt who's actually unselective by picking his targets (means, he's not after your corp specifically) and a "C&P friend" who's turning up at the wrong times of the day according to one of your local statements. All in together the ods have shifted from 1 to 1500 to 6 to 1500 (and only 4 of them able to attack you in empire under war-conditions)... At least on the paper that is. And now this ofc means so much more trouble to your guys than zed alone. Wow, I see, strong coalition you got there.
Basically it comes down to this: You've been barking very loud, tried to back-pedal, damage control and ego-boost which now, as you seem to realize slowly, will get your car hitting the wall. You're thinking it's about ThGuy? It isn't. You think it's personal? Neither that. But it's plain fun for a small group to see how the cardhouse of big words and hot breath is going to fold. =) hey, you've been in a Goon corp... Guess, why they are all spamming CAOD so loud. Kenny was eating its words... You are currently eating your words. That's just what brings entertainment to people - far from being personal in any way. it's the process of eating words, indifferent who it is. :)
This.
This is why I'm joining Zed's corp. All Celestius' chest beating and posturing bought this upon himself. We've called your bluff; didn't expect that did you?
Remember, you cannot BS 100% of the people 100% of the time, and BTW Mr Mensa, there != their
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Celestius al'Rhaytian
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Posted - 2009.06.06 12:01:00 -
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You apparently didnt read that all of that "Bolstering as you put it, was done in a region 40 jumps away from where we are now before we ever joined an alliance.....
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Liitar
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Posted - 2009.06.06 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Celestius al'Rhaytian Edited by: Celestius al''Rhaytian on 06/06/2009 11:59:31Like I said over 90% of everything said by us was done when we were in the Genisis region and didnt have to bother with anyone but ourselves.
B.F.S.
Open contract, 100m to Zed if he continues this war, or to Gorgoth and whatever corp he joins to dec Failestius' corp
WHO'S WITH ME!
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Xathytoz
Gallente Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2009.06.06 12:30:00 -
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Edited by: Xathytoz on 06/06/2009 12:35:09 Edited by: Xathytoz on 06/06/2009 12:31:00 If you're alliance cannot handle a 4-member-corp and some lowsec pirate fluctuation, it shouldn#t be in lowsec i nthe first place, just a hint. ;) And yes - Stating that it's "inconvenient" and needs quick solving does mean you (as an alliance) apparently cannot handle it. It's not liek you're the first corp/alliance in lowsec that gets ppl roaming in their turf trying to kill of what they find and you won't be the last (luckily).
besides: Didn't you state earlier that you in fact were "manipulating" Zed to wardec you? I mean, it's the first week of this , you'd know that you move to another place. While ofc this is suddenly all happenign out of the blue and a totally stupid situation. You didn't wanted that war anyways, huh. (Well, which is actually the truth but you tried to convince the readers it was all planned. Psych-WarFare ftlolz.) |
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.06.06 12:33:00 -
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/Me wonders if i can get the 'tics interested |
Celestius al'Rhaytian
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Posted - 2009.06.06 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Celestius al''Rhaytian on 06/06/2009 12:43:37 Edited by: Celestius al''Rhaytian on 06/06/2009 12:42:19 Edited by: Celestius al''Rhaytian on 06/06/2009 12:39:10 eh I cant speak to that, the alliance seems to be made up of pretty cool friendly people ( A lot better then any other alliance I've been in actually). But i'm new and have no idea what they are or are not capable of. I just know what our corps job is and what were supposed to do a help with.
On a more final note though I will make sure this is come to a close within 24 hours. If Zed keeps his word it will be over in less then 48 and all hostilities will cease. Whcih honestly I think he will honor his terms.
Reply to Xythos:
As I said that was before we joined the alliance. and moved 40 jumps up this way. And its not that they cant handle them its that we dont want to deal with this plus everything else. But I concede that it could be taken as not being able to handle it.
In any case it will be over soon adn eveyone can get back to what they were doing.
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Phoenix Davion
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Posted - 2009.06.06 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Celestius al'Rhaytian And to clarify, backpedleing is when you go back on stuff and make excuses because its too much from what you first stated. This is not the same as faceing a "New" issue because of situational change. (IE moveing 40 jumps to a new region and joining an allience with goals and a purpose)
Causes given by you for this situation in chronological order (now explain how you aren't backpedaling, it should be funny) * ThGuy was just trying to learn how to bait (this one might have just been ThGuy, I can't remember) * ThGuy was trying to mess with peoples minds, we didn't know someone would take it seriously, decing us is a waste of time * Hah, we wanted you to dec us, we targeted you so we could get a free war, and you fell for it * It was all a misunderstanding (or some other random crap)
I have to say, with communication skills like yours, I am amazed anyone doubted your intelligence.
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Xathytoz
Gallente Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2009.06.06 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Celestius al'Rhaytian
Reply to Xythos:
As I said that was before we joined the alliance. and moved 40 jumps up this way. And its not that they cant handle them its that we dont want to deal with this plus everything else. But I concede that it could be taken as not being able to handle it.
So this is a disguised admission that you did in fact bigmouthed way above your potential, he. Just making sure. Besides, it's Xathytoz or at least Xath. Besides all I don't think I was messign your name up yet, Celestius, did I? I mean, respect and honour and all that, aye.
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Sophia Truthspeaker
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2009.06.06 12:48:00 -
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Quote: CEO > Anyway. zedric doesnt know jack about pvp. he knows how to gank and kill industrials
I simply love it that the whole thing started with Zed killing a can baiter in an industrial.
Originally by: Celestius As the CEO of a corp which is now in an alliance I can no longer think about Just my Corp. I have to put the alliance first as a whole.
First of all, no. Your first responsibility is and always will be your corp. If your corps aims coincident with the alliances, great. If not, find a better future for your corp.
Now lets see how the whole thing looks like form my perspective.
There was a can baiter, which I think is pretty low. He doesn't get an easy victim but falls to one who is better than him. Now instead of learning his lesson he acts out. The next lesson was, you are responsible for your actions and in eve the effect to your cause can be quite harsh.
You join in and while siding with your RL friend is lauderable, both of you continue to act way out of line. What can a single person do to our mighty coalition, mhmmm? Your responsibility would have been to put a leash on your friend and act consistendly mature and apologetic towards Zed. That would have been the right thing to do for your corp.
Now you see what a single person can do to you. The alliance you joined... 40 jumps? To be honest it looks like you try to hide from your problems. Wonder if the alliance know what kind of problems you bring along with you? Do they care of will they leave you hanging out to dry?
And if you really want to know, why you are so deep in... search C&P (Crime and Punishment *hint) for the Repo Industry thread about 9 month back I think or watch the Outbreak video Karma. That is Eve. And I'll recommend the next noobish ceo to read this thread so he knows how badly things go out of control in eve.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.06.06 12:49:00 -
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Originally by: Failestius al'Rhaytian Edited by: Celestius al''Rhaytian on 06/06/2009 12:21:32 Edited by: Celestius al''Rhaytian on 06/06/2009 12:20:07 Edited by: Celestius al''Rhaytian on 06/06/2009 12:15:03 Edited by: Celestius al''Rhaytian on 06/06/2009 12:10:26
You edit more times than anyone I've ever seen and still have fail posts
Originally by: Failestius al'Rhaytian
You apparently didnt read that all of that "Bolstering as you put it, was done in a region 40 jumps away from where we are now before we ever joined an alliance.....
Region is irrellevant, that fact is that its YOU causing this aggro. If it's causing your new alliance problems perhaps you shouldn't have joined with a wardec. Just because it's inconvenient to you doesn't mean Zedrik and the 'Friends of IEEE' should back down.
Originally by: Failestius al'Rhaytian And to clarify, backpedleing is when you go back on stuff and make excuses because its too much from what you first stated.
Yeah, yeah.... Like claiming the whole situation to be manipulated by thguy in the first place
Originally by: Failestius al'Rhaytian CCMI doesnt care about being wardecked as a "Corp". However the alliance does as such we have things to deal with which take priority.
Again... not Zeds fault you chose to bring the dec to the alliance with you. You should have waited till the wardec was resolved. Instead you ran to an alliance like pansies hoping it would blow over. It didn't and now the alliance are annoyed WITH YOU.
Originally by: Failestius al'Rhaytian
If we were not in the allience and still in genisis I wouldnt give a crap bring everyone you can pewpew. But the fact is were not anymore.
The fact is QQ MOAR PLS THX
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Celestius al'Rhaytian
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Posted - 2009.06.06 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Celestius al''Rhaytian on 06/06/2009 12:58:28 This is getting boreing...
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Larana Randie
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:01:00 -
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I have to admit, eve is the greatest mmo EVER!!!
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Liitar
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:02:00 -
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When adding ing to a word, drop the trailing e of the root word
Also, try to suck less in day to day life
All the best
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Xathytoz
Gallente Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:04:00 -
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You apparently do not seem to understand that within EVE there is causality and history more or less acting the same way as in the real world. We refer to your words not despite but BECAUSE of your most recent posts, comparing the content and in overall apaprently agreeing that you are really back-pedaling. (Which you just 1 or 2 pages ago denied to do.) The time frame is a rather short one. People usualyl don't change their mind and statements out of rationality and reason but either becuz something severe forced them to do or to keep/create a certain image to a specific receiver. Now, are you trying to keep up the reputation you mentioned not too long ago in the talks with jeth or is the "severe insection" the bluff not working out?
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Celestius al'Rhaytian
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:10:00 -
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Actualy if you read the first convos between me and Zed I did EXACTLY that and treated him with complete respect I even took his side.
He still wardec'd us. So being mature and pilot didnt help.. k. I switched tactics, tried the imature bolsterous pvper... k that didnt work either. switched tactics again tried the pscho thing... still no result. Switching agin tried the diplomatic rout. hmm still not working.....
If he had wanted the respect and apology he would have taken it the first time. I was on zeds side throught the begining until he actualy wardecked us and even then I was cool with him. Until he broke his word that he would not kill industrails and started killing those.
Then it was on.
So finaly switched to what do you want mode. Worked fine. He didnt care about respect or anything like that he wanted a vedetta against Xerscia for Xerscia actions.
Thats all this entire thing has been about for "Zedrik" Xerscia wronged him and he wanted revenge. Thats all fine and well. But it is what it is.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Celestius al'Rhaytian Thats all this entire thing has been about for "Zedrik" Xerscia wronged him and he wanted revenge. Thats all fine and well. But it is what it is.
Please elaborate on this point, it doesn't quite mean anything as is.
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Celestius al'Rhaytian
Thats all this entire thing has been about for "Zedrik" Xerscia wronged him and he wanted revenge. Thats all fine and well. But it is what it is.
Actually, it never was about that. It has always been about kicking someone in the teeth just because in EVE, you can. And Xerscia, yourself, and your corp in general make ooooh so tempting targets for it with you posturing, your "coalition" and then your QQ
You're like a Chiuaua yapping at a bigger dog, then running and hiding with a whimper the second said dog takes a step towards you, only to continue yapping from the percieved safety behind your owner.
No-one cares if you moved and joined an alliance that find the issue you yourself created inconvenient. Do you think Goons would have stopped attacking BoB if they suddenly said "Ok! We moved to another region now, war is over!!11one" ---
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Sophia Truthspeaker
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Celestius al'Rhaytian Until he broke his word that he would not kill industrails and started killing those.
Then it was on.
Xerscia hid and boasted that Zed couldn't touch him. You didn't make Xerscia stand up for the punishment he was due or punished him yourself. Zed put pressure on you by putting pressure on your corp. If your corp breaks because of it, it is a direct consequence of someone acting like a donkey and hiding from his own personal consequences. If it comes to that, I hope the new pilots involved won't quit eve but find their way into another corp with a more experienced ceo.
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Celestius al'Rhaytian
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:25:00 -
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It just means what it says, even Zedriks Terms for him droping the dec's show this. He doesnt care about getting respect throughout this entire thing. The alliance guys ahve tried, I've tried repeatedly. He doesnt want respect or friendlyness or whatever.
he wants blood, Xerscia got under His skin and ****ed him off, Zedrik got obsessed with "teaching him a lesson" and went for his throat. when he figured out that xerscia is a station trader he decided to turn his attention on industrials. And this is After he said he wouldnt shoot them twice.
So he went back on his own word of honor and respect. All this in order to get us to let him take out his anger and get even with Xerscia. By either removeing him from the corp or makeing him apologize publicly and then letting him pod kill him.
If Xerscia was a puppet master Zedrik would be dancing his tune. And in fact has been this entire time. If you read the posts Xersia himself states that his entire goal was to get under this guys skin and **** him off.
Xerscia did. So Xerscia won. Zedrik realizes this so his terms are focused tword getting even or getting back at Xercia.
like I said its not about respect or apologies, its about revenge because Xerscia got the best of him.
and you know what its all good.
But like I said it is what it is.
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Lord Zim
Gallente Garlas Enterprise Inc Red Dwarf Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Zim on 06/06/2009 13:32:48
Originally by: Celestius al'Rhaytian Actualy if you read the first convos between me and Zed I did EXACTLY that and treated him with complete respect I even took his side.
He still wardec'd us. So being mature and pilot didnt help.. k. I switched tactics, tried the imature bolsterous pvper... k that didnt work either. switched tactics again tried the pscho thing... still no result. Switching agin tried the diplomatic rout. hmm still not working.....
If he had wanted the respect and apology he would have taken it the first time. I was on zeds side throught the begining until he actualy wardecked us and even then I was cool with him. Until he broke his word that he would not kill industrails and started killing those.
Then it was on.
So finaly switched to what do you want mode. Worked fine. He didnt care about respect or anything like that he wanted a vedetta against Xerscia for Xerscia actions.
Thats all this entire thing has been about for "Zedrik" Xerscia wronged him and he wanted revenge. Thats all fine and well. But it is what it is.
Excuse me, but this is a bit of a rewrite of history. You went from being on his side (somewhat), even though he said he was going to wardec the corp because of Xerscia's actions, to muttering about the 1500+ coalition or whatever it was, to claiming "it was a deliberate act on our part and you fell into our trap tee hee hee", to once again saying it's a hassle and can we please stop, it's only a game.
All that's fine (well, the part about the wardec being a planned action is quite obvious a big hunk of lie, because your tone prior AND after that session is utterly inconsistent with that claim), but the last time I checked, the only thing Xerscia did that "wronged zed" was acting like a spoiled kid who got his toys taken away when he realized that he couldn't be the sandbox bully he wanted to be. I didn't exactly take the whole thing as zed wanting revenge, more wanting to teach xerscia a proper lesson. One which I for xerscia's part hope has made its mark.
Now, if I were you, I'd stop posting until Xerscia posts his apology (or you post yours, I really don't care which), and stop digging a bigger hole for yourself. Because that's all you're doing as you're responding to this thread (with ... a few of the posters (notably liitar) doing absolutely nothing but flame and/or try to get in on the kicking, like a wannabe bully in hischool, hiding behind the main bully, shaking his fist and going "yeah!"). Don't feed the fire, and it'll blow over much quicker than if you persist in "defending" yourself.
Edit: s/xerscia's part has/xerscia's part hope has # damn random word loss.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Spank on 06/06/2009 13:35:07
Originally by: Celestius al'Rhaytian If Xerscia was a puppet master Zedrik would be dancing his tune. And in fact has been this entire time. If you read the posts Xersia himself states that his entire goal was to get under this guys skin and **** him off.
Xerscia did. So Xerscia won. Zedrik realizes this so his terms are focused tword getting even or getting back at Xercia.
like I said its not about respect or apologies, its about revenge because Xerscia got the best of him.
Still trying to claim manipulation right from the start? Pathetic. That's not going to wash with anyone.
Also LOL @ editing again. You just cant make up your mind how to spin your bull**** can you.
EDIT: MY TURN TO EDIT !!! HOMG HIPOCRITE RITE?
I made you a picture
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Celestius al'Rhaytian Edited by: Celestius al''Rhaytian on 06/06/2009 11:59:31
Your friend is an idiot.
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Kiltharas Makaar
Amarr New Eden Research and Development Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:36:00 -
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Wise man say: When in hole, stop digging. Wise man also say: When have umbrella in butt, open it do not. New Eden Research & Development Syndicate is recruiting! |
Dracoknight
The Directorate Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:38:00 -
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Celes, seriously.... its OVER! You cant save yourself now, leave it be, get over with it and forget it.
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