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Glash
Ooops Inc. Infinite Innovation
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Posted - 2009.06.01 04:52:00 -
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Edited by: Glash on 01/06/2009 05:17:46 Edited by: Glash on 01/06/2009 05:07:32
Originally by: Hoggs
Originally by: Snake O'Donell
Originally by: hoggs we didnt want that tower anyways
We will continue shooting TIC poses until you dismantle all your POSes in Bosboger, and agree not to put any new poses in Amamake or Bosboger. Any gate camps in Amamake or Bosboger will be destroyed on sight. This is your final warning.
Not saying we didn't want that tower, I'm saying a small tower kill is hardly something to celebrate complete failure over. You'd do more damage to us by killing a single battleship, as they have far more invested in them than any small tower.
It's simple battle strategy. A ship is lost, it's replaced with funds obtained from POS's and other income avenues. You destroy the income, then you only have to destroy the stockpile to get the point across. Or had you not considered that?
Will one POS takedown disrupt your finances considerably? Possibly not.
When they all start to drop, will it? There's a good chance that it will. Regardless of the impact, the message is still painfully clear. These folks apparently don't want you in their space and from the looks of things, they have the means to remove it by force if necessary. I guess the choice is yours to make. I'd be considering the options that are available.
1. Stay and lose valuable hardware for no reason but for sheer stubbornness.
2. Swallow your pride and move along while you still have stuff left to move.
These folks look like they mean business, and from the reactions that I've seen while flying around, HN hasn't come up with any type of response to stop them. Which means you are either unwilling to stop them, or unable to stop them. Fools throw away money for no reason, bullies stop when they get their faces caved in one too many times. What impression do you want to give these folks about HN?
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KillJoy Tseng
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.06.01 05:16:00 -
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Just as a comment, try hitting some of the mediums in Bosboger. That seems to get their attention more.
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Snake O'Donell
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: KillJoy Tseng Just as a comment, try hitting some of the mediums in Bosboger. That seems to get their attention more.
Give it time mate, give it time.
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.06.01 06:27:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 01/06/2009 06:30:23
Originally by: Glash
It's simple battle strategy. A ship is lost, it's replaced with funds obtained from POS's and other income avenues. You destroy the income, then you only have to destroy the stockpile to get the point across. Or had you not considered that?
Will one POS takedown disrupt your finances considerably? Possibly not.
When they all start to drop, will it? There's a good chance that it will. Regardless of the impact, the message is still painfully clear. These folks apparently don't want you in their space and from the looks of things, they have the means to remove it by force if necessary. I guess the choice is yours to make. I'd be considering the options that are available.
1. Stay and lose valuable hardware for no reason but for sheer stubbornness.
2. Swallow your pride and move along while you still have stuff left to move.
These folks look like they mean business, and from the reactions that I've seen while flying around, HN hasn't come up with any type of response to stop them. Which means you are either unwilling to stop them, or unable to stop them. Fools throw away money for no reason, bullies stop when they get their faces caved in one too many times. What impression do you want to give these folks about HN?
Not to mention Tics have some high sec industrial alts/members.. A simple war Dec or two could put that to a grinding halt. It might get hard resupplying if your high sec guys are camped in stations.. Not to mention if I'm not mistaken, Tics run a lot of the trade in Amamake. Freighter kills full of goodies oh my..
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: KillJoy Tseng Just as a comment, try hitting some of the mediums in Bosboger. That seems to get their attention more.
Ok, to give you a little more background on our current actions against Heretic Nation.
I see the value in Heretic Nation, I see a CEO who leads his members well and a group of people who are proud to fly under her flag.
It is absolutely not my intention to seriously damage this corporation or her members, hence why we have engaged the lowest value moon mining tower available, however where previously negotiation has failed, I have a special form of action which I hope, sincerely will be successful.
The CEO of Heretics has intimated in this discussion that he is willing to discuss the future. Unfortunately due to some communication issues we were unable to sit down and hammer out the details. He was then unavailable when the small POS exited reinforced.
I was not born yesterday and to ensure I was not falling victim to stalling tactics, I destroyed the POS to ensure my message was sincere.
To make this really simple, My terms are to be met, or the agression continues, there is no room for discussion we are past this, simply post here to confirm you are in acceptance. It is time for your proud corporation to change its ways, please do not force me to make you change them.
I beg you, accept my terms.
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Frank Monkey
Gallente Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes
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Posted - 2009.06.01 13:41:00 -
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I read of lot of Dark Rising [DR] chest beating here.
So is this about DR or is this about Minmatar Militia?
When you read what the DR people have said, it clear its pretty much about DR flexing muscle.
This is fine as long as its about DR. However DR have clearly been asking Minmatar Militia to reinforce all of there actions. Requesting assistance from the Militia pilots, from light to heavy ship support.
They then come on and chest beat here.
I think thats kinda poor. In communications channels last evening, it was quite clear that DR members felt that they "were the Minmatar Militia", as one of their pilots said...
[ 2009.05.31 22:35:41 ] the plague > We are half the militia [ 2009.05.31 22:35:44 ] the plague > :O
Yeah you are Minmatar Militia! lolz...
I never even heard of these guys before 2 weeks back and in a couple of weeks, given my short term memory is lousy, will I remember them? Doubtful.
I think if you are going to chest beat DR, do it with your own exploits. Anything else just makes people look at you and laugh.
Frank ...of Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes...
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Frank Monkey "were the Minmatar Militia"
The sentiment reflected the current active milita pilots, of which approximately half were -dark.
The significance you seek is not in this thread, go and challenge more friendlies to one vs ones.
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Frank Monkey
Gallente Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes
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Posted - 2009.06.01 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Originally by: Frank Monkey "were the Minmatar Militia"
The sentiment reflected the current active milita pilots, of which approximately half were -dark.
The significance you seek is not in this thread, go and challenge more friendlies to one vs ones.
"half were Dark". backside.
Got anyone in mind for a one vs one?
Frank ...of Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes...
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Frank Monkey "half were Dark". backside.
69 in corp chat, 157 in militia.
You can call it what you like.
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Lounstar deVries
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Frank Monkey I read of lot of Dark Rising [DR] chest beating here.
So is this about DR or is this about Minmatar Militia?
When you read what the DR people have said, it clear its pretty much about DR flexing muscle.
This is fine as long as its about DR. However DR have clearly been asking Minmatar Militia to reinforce all of there actions. Requesting assistance from the Militia pilots, from light to heavy ship support.
They then come on and chest beat here.
I think thats kinda poor. In communications channels last evening, it was quite clear that DR members felt that they "were the Minmatar Militia", as one of their pilots said...
[ 2009.05.31 22:35:41 ] the plague > We are half the militia [ 2009.05.31 22:35:44 ] the plague > :O
Yeah you are Minmatar Militia! lolz...
I never even heard of these guys before 2 weeks back and in a couple of weeks, given my short term memory is lousy, will I remember them? Doubtful.
I think if you are going to chest beat DR, do it with your own exploits. Anything else just makes people look at you and laugh.
Frank ...of Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes...
you comment that we are "chest beating" yet all you do in militia is sing songs, brag about "how hard" you are, and annoy the general **** out of people, i mean seriously the only reason i remember your name is because its the first person i would kill if i was on your fleet, hell i think more than half the militia WILL NOT fleet with you because you act as if you have mental issues.
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 14:28:00 -
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Too much crash I think Lounstar, his trolling is detracting from an infinately more important point.
The Dark is Rising... Fight my Brute! |
Lounstar deVries
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 14:32:00 -
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My bad :P
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Frank Monkey
Gallente Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes
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Posted - 2009.06.01 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lounstar deVries [ ...you comment that we are "chest beating" yet all you do in militia is sing songs, i mean seriously the only reason i remember your name is because its the first person i would kill if i was on your fleet... Quote:
Errm didn't I offer to give you that very opportunity to shoot-bang-fire at zee monkey? Monkey-a-monkey [mono-a-mono geddit??? lols...]
And what did you want to do? Mine or something. Refusing to take me on, saying you were some kinda industrial dwarf type person. So one of your "hard men" from DR came to "do me in". That worked out really well for him. At least it was a short trip home in the pod.
You panzies don't impress me. I find your chest beating, as I said, laughable.
Frank ...of Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes...
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Lounstar deVries
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 14:41:00 -
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Ok frank ill make this simple, if you want to argue please PM or mail me, dont flood our threads, as for the "fight". 1) i agreed to it. as proof search the forums 2) i was at the location at the specified time. 3) you rejected my half of the challange yet i still accepted yours 4) you did not show. please Mail me if you have any further issues.
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Frank Monkey
Gallente Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes
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Posted - 2009.06.01 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lounstar deVries Ok frank ill make this simple, if you want to argue please PM or mail me, dont flood our threads, as for the "fight". 1) i agreed to it. as proof search the forums 2) i was at the location at the specified time. 3) you rejected my half of the challange yet i still accepted yours 4) you did not show. please Mail me if you have any further issues.
If you put stuff up on a thread its open for comment.
So one of your DR "hard men" challenges me, ship to ship, one on one, same HAC.
I agree and torch his sorry ass on the same evening. Yet I am some how running scared from you? Lol, you guys really are full of the BS, and I don't mean battleships here.
You see how hard it is to believe anything you say, when you post kaka like that on here?
Go back to mining, wearing girls clothing and skipping about bridges saying "I'm soo pretty, I'm soo pretty".
Ha.
Frank ...of Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes...
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Snake O'Donell
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 15:18:00 -
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For future reference our corp ticker is -DARK not DR.
I have no idea who these DR guys are but they must be pretty badass.
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Frank Monkey
Gallente Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes
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Posted - 2009.06.01 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Snake O'Donell For future reference our corp ticker is -DARK not DR.
I have no idea who these DR guys are but they must be pretty badass.
Lord the pedants come out of the woodwork, don't they...
When you have nothing to say, come out and say something pedantic so we can all sigh, shake our collective heads and say "what a tard".
I think your corp ticker should be PANZY, for obvious reasons, but then again I and many, many others couldn't care less what you call yourself, when you are dancing around the bridge of your ships, looking like an extra from Fairytopia and singing "I'm soo pretty, in my tutu"...
Frank ...of Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes...
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DonSailieri
Amarr Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: DonSailieri on 01/06/2009 16:21:35 The more you try to argue about DARK trying to enforce their will upon the Minmatar Militia, you should realize the facts:
DARK is the best thing that ever happened to the Minmatar Militia. We're not here to exploit it, we're here to stand next to them, fight their fight as it is ours, and try to protect them from whatever force rallies against them.
One of these forces, rallying against the Minmatar Militia, is Heretic Nation, I think Mitch made that quite clear. This will have to change, or we WILL take the steps necessary to ensure the Minmatar Militia AND Dark are safe.
We're a part of the Minmatar Militia. That's what we do. Deal with it.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.06.01 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Frank Monkey I never even heard of these guys before 2 weeks back and in a couple of weeks, given my short term memory is lousy, will I remember them? Doubtful.
They were originally in Gallente militia and were driven off/moved elsewhere once their objectives were fulfilled (depending who you ask). I am sure you are not interested in all details. Suffice to say that when they evacuated Esesier system in Placid, great deal of their corp assets were, perhaps due a computer error, transferred to various members of Caldari militia.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Lt Mooncat
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:02:00 -
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Dark do not speak for all minmatar. Mr Taylor can negotiate with whoever he wants but he does not talk for me or all of my brothers and sisters. Dark absorbed the bravest pilots in the Gallente Militia and then left with their tails between their legs. Where was your honour then Mr Taylor? |
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Snake O'Donell
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion
Originally by: Frank Monkey I never even heard of these guys before 2 weeks back and in a couple of weeks, given my short term memory is lousy, will I remember them? Doubtful.
They were originally in Gallente militia and were driven off/moved elsewhere once their objectives were fulfilled (depending who you ask). I am sure you are not interested in all details. Suffice to say that when they evacuated Esesier system in Placid, great deal of their corp assets were, perhaps due a computer error, transferred to various members of Caldari militia.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
Oh noes you stole a bunch of t1 mods. Fail.
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Hoggs
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mitch Taylor I beg you, accept my terms.
Alright, I won't chestbeat this time.
While I see a strong possibilty of Heretic Nation and the Minmatar militia getting along once again, surely you can see your terms are a tad extreme. While not shooting is reasonable, I fail to see how our barely profitable towers cause any disruption to militia operations. Why should we remove them? You don't own Amamake or the surrounding areas.
Cooperation terms will obviously require furthur discussion, I will try to attend next time Mirrorgod is available. Until then, pewpew!
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Snake O'Donell
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hoggs
Originally by: Mitch Taylor I beg you, accept my terms.
Alright, I won't chestbeat this time.
While I see a strong possibilty of Heretic Nation and the Minmatar militia getting along once again, surely you can see your terms are a tad extreme. While not shooting is reasonable, I fail to see how our barely profitable towers cause any disruption to militia operations. Why should we remove them? You don't own Amamake or the surrounding areas.
Cooperation terms will obviously require furthur discussion, I will try to attend next time Mirrorgod is available. Until then, pewpew!
Your towers are being used as a base of operations for you to shoot at minmatar militia members. Therefore they are a valid target.
There is no need for cooperation or for standings to be set. Our terms are this:
You will evacuate your remaining POSes from Bosboger. You will never again place towers in Bosboger/Amamake. You will cease all acts of piracy in Bosboger and Amamake.
Those are our terms and they are non negotiable. You have until Tomorrow at 2030 to comply with these terms. Failure to comply with these terms by the deadline will result in further aggressive action form us.
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Mitch Taylor
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hoggs your terms are a tad extreme
I sympathise with your position, I sincerely do. However your own killboard is testiment to your crimes against our brothers. To ignore this wrong is to accept it.
Apathy is not a quality I possess.
Your new deadline is 20.30 on Tuesday. I know there are more challenges out there for a corporation as talented as your own. I know you can take this experience and grow from it. I would like to think you can take your assets with you to your next endeavour.
If you cannot see my kindness, you are blinded only by your pride.
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Hoggs
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:10:00 -
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Keep in mind, destroying our towers will not cause us to move on. We both know your 100 man fleets can't keep us camped forever, and no, we're not so stupid as to attack them head on. We'll still be there, killin' yer ships every chance we get. It's no different to every other large entitity that's already tried to give us the boot.
Unless of course, you're willing to negotiate. We're willing to.
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Lounstar deVries
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:28:00 -
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The above may be true yet, we kill more POS's you lose more money, your forward meeting locations become shot meaning you have to group further out, gather inteligence via scouts and move in closely, from this information will already be broadcasted that you are on the move. From the fact we will destroy your forward POS's gives us the strategical advantage of positioning on the battlefront, also consumes your ISK in the process which i guess is a bi-product. All in all, we kill more POS's/more of you, you have a harder time.
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Hoggs
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lounstar deVries The above may be true yet, we kill more POS's you lose more money, your forward meeting locations become shot meaning you have to group further out, gather inteligence via scouts and move in closely, from this information will already be broadcasted that you are on the move. From the fact we will destroy your forward POS's gives us the strategical advantage of positioning on the battlefront, also consumes your ISK in the process which i guess is a bi-product. All in all, we kill more POS's/more of you, you have a harder time.
As I already stated, barely profitable. You should know by now our primary income comes from loot, and other such means.
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Zverofaust
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Posted - 2009.06.01 19:03:00 -
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Get R Done.
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Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.06.01 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Hoggs
As I already stated, barely profitable. You should know by now our primary income comes from loot, and other such means.
Then we must assume you guys have already had a large cut in income being you can't camp Oso gate at will these days. That would likely make losing POS's even more of a hit to your income stream.
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Nicklaus Klaus'nik
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.01 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Mooncat Dark do not speak for all minmatar. Mr Taylor can negotiate with whoever he wants but he does not talk for me or all of my brothers and sisters. Dark absorbed the bravest pilots in the Gallente Militia and then left with their tails between their legs. Where was your honour then Mr Taylor?
please don't start this RP nonsense. DARK, as a corp, has log term goals, as well as short term goals. We are quite god at achieving both. You insult the remaining aces in the Gallente Militia with your assumptions. In any case, we're working with the rest of militia to accomplish things that could've been done by now-wer it not for certain elements within the militia that sought to impede progress made on any fronts. Besides, this is a game, and we're having fun with it. The Darkness is Rising |
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