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Kinuko
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Posted - 2009.05.31 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: Kinuko on 31/05/2009 19:58:40 This is just in:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/5344839/Virtual-world-is-a-real-money-maker.html
"CCP Games has been profitable since 2004, but all profits are currently being reinvested in Eve Online and also into creating World of Darkness, a new online subscription game about vampires targeting an 18-25-year-old, female demographic. "
Apparently quests will involve falling love with a vampire, and romancing with him =P
J/k, as long as CCP don't go Hello Kitty way I prefer social, sandbox WOD online to themepark WOD online anytime. Sandbox part is not known yet but at least we know there will be social elements in WOD online and which is pretty good because P&P WOD contains very important social elements in gameplay.
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defiler
Mad Hermit Wayward Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.31 20:07:00 -
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You're doing it wrong, link first, text later.
Hmm, not exactly what I wanted to hear about WoD. On the other hand, with blind speculation and tinfoil-hattery in fashion like it is I remain hopeful that it will have some appeal to grumpy old men as well...
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Daphne Mezereum
Caldari Half Lethal
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Posted - 2009.05.31 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: defiler will have some appeal to grumpy old men as well...
You are a Nosferatu, aren't you?:)
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.05.31 20:26:00 -
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And when the Girls have watched Twilight 1, 2, 3, and probably 4 for a hundreds times on DVD and Blue Ray, they will come to the new WoD Games hoping to find a romantic Vampire in this MMORPG...
... and fall Prey to the coldblooded EVE-Veterans already waiting there.
It would be like feeding them to the Wolves, only more painful, a lot more painful.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.31 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: defiler You're doing it wrong, link first, text later.
Hmm, not exactly what I wanted to hear about WoD. On the other hand, with blind speculation and tinfoil-hattery in fashion like it is I remain hopeful that it will have some appeal to grumpy old men as well...
I think the targeting of that female demography will appeal to the grumpy old men.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.05.31 20:28:00 -
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What does targeting that particular democraphic even mean? Most of the current games seem to target males of that agegroup and the games are mostly worthless piles of superficial ****. Can anyone else think of a full price game, that targeted young adult females?
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.05.31 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue What does targeting that particular democraphic even mean? Most of the current games seem to target males of that agegroup and the games are mostly worthless piles of superficial ****. Can anyone else think of a full price game, that targeted young adult females?
The Sims 1, 2 and 3.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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defiler
Mad Hermit Wayward Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.31 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Daphne Mezereum
Originally by: defiler will have some appeal to grumpy old men as well...
You are a Nosferatu, aren't you?:)
IRL I'd probably fit in quite well with them, yeah (and I'm not talking about looks here), but in RPGs I favour a blend of stealth and social engineering (with violence etc as a last resort), the latter being somewhat difficult for Nosferatus... And since I don't fancy ruling over anybody but myself I think Tremere or Malkavian would probably be better...
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Kalahari Wayrest
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Posted - 2009.05.31 21:06:00 -
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Quote: The game is relatively unknown to those outside its 25-30-year-old male demographic
but but!
Quote: a new online subscription game about vampires targeting an 18-25-year-old, female demographic.
hmm...yeah I'm curious exactly what appealing to that demographic would mean...
though given it's followed with this:
Quote: Fashion and design will play a key role in the game
I think I have an idea
oh well, in a year that will no longer be appealing to me 26 is the year I'll finally be free from craving fashion and design in ma games above all else...
...I obviously know zip about marketting (which I'm going to prove with my next sentence) but I kinda wish ppls wouldn't try appealing to a specific demographic...just make whatever you want to make and the demographic will just be whoever understands and relates to your vision...
__________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.31 22:08:00 -
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It won't work!
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Drakolus
Amarr Canadian Imperial Armaments Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.01 00:24:00 -
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Wai hullo thar little girl!
This SCREAMS for a pedobear tie in tbh.
And yes, I do think there is going to be a horrible backlash when all the teens and tweens come to WOD looking for their dark mysterious vampire eternal love and find only goons and griefers waiting for them. _____________________________________________
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.06.01 00:31:00 -
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I can see the twilight fans heading to this one, thankfully we won't have to share a forum with them.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.01 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov I can see the twilight fans heading to this one, thankfully we won't have to share a forum with them.
I want to share a forum with them after we go 28 Days Later on their asses
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.06.01 02:17:00 -
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I say we create characters and go around raeping them if the game is full pvp, then sit back and enjoy the whining but you know it won't be like that because CCP will cater to that demographic by, possibly, making the game WoW like
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Reiisha
Evolution KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.06.01 08:44:00 -
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Calling BS on that one. Reporter being a little eager to know stuff he doesn't.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.06.01 08:54:00 -
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Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 01/06/2009 08:54:18 I doubt they'd have chosen the White Wolf Vampire setting if they wanted to appeal to the 18-25 female demographic. Last time I checked that world was rather darker and nastier than the female fanfiction filled dreams you'd base a girl-targeted Vampire game on. Now if they announced they were doing a "Twilight" MMO, then yes... but Vampire? I'm not convinced...
However, focus-group research can often be hilariously wrong.
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Jack Thurner
LEGION OF THE POTATO PEOPLE
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Posted - 2009.06.01 09:13:00 -
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"Fashion and design will play a key role in the game" I sure hope that quote concerns the development of the game and not the game itself.. Well, there's the Toreadors..
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.01 09:44:00 -
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The best way to attract male customers is to tell them that they'll be meeting loads of women.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.01 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov I can see the twilight fans heading to this one, thankfully we won't have to share a forum with them.
I was thinking that. I wonder how much they need to level up before they get glitter-skin and night-baseball abilities.
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:44:00 -
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Day 1 the server is going to be full of creepy old men.
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:54:00 -
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Couldn't care less if there were girls in the game or not, as long as I can roll a Malkavian Dementia + Obfuscate = Happy KingsGambit + (un)Dead Girls. -------------
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Daphne Mezereum
Caldari Half Lethal
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Posted - 2009.06.01 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit Couldn't care less if there were girls in the game or not, as long as I can roll a Malkavian Dementia + Obfuscate = Happy KingsGambit + (un)Dead Girls.
I surely hope they add bloodlines.
Oh man, what a single Daughter of Cacophony could cause....
Broken Mirrors forever!
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Lui Kai
Better Than You
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Posted - 2009.06.01 12:17:00 -
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Roleplayers already creep me out. Roleplayers being told there's a "wizard hat and robe" game targeted at 18-25 year old women - yeah, I'll never, ever log into that one. ----------------
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2009.06.01 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: TraininVain Day 1 the server is going to be full of creepy old men.
Yep, vampires.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Pherusa Plumosa
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.01 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Daphne Mezereum
I surely hope they add bloodlines.
Oh man, what a single Daughter of Cacophony could cause....
Broken Mirrors forever!
I doubt they will use Material from the "old" WoD, if they don't like to be dragged to the court.
Quote: Fashion and design will play a key role in the game and the group has employed two supposedly well-known Icelandic fashion designers to create virtual "gothic-style" clothing for avatars. The group is hiring 100 more people in the next 12 months û including producers, animators and economists û to create its new virtual world.
I hope they also hire people for content design to break with stupid monotone MMO-quests, which is imho the main reason why girls are not attracted by mmos. In every MMO (even Eve), PVE can be broke down to: - Kill x of y / Gather x drops of y - Talk to x / Bring x to y / Fetch x from y - Gather x
If fancy fashion is the only innovation of WoD and you have to slay 10 werwolves to buy new shoes, it won't attract more women than other mmos. However, WoD was always the choice if you wanted to introduce girls to the geeky world of Pen&Paper RPGs. At least worked for me, and if I look back, most Vampire groups I was in had a balanced mix of male and female players, whereas Hack&Slay games with mind-boggling rulesets where mostly male (except me).
This Hack&Slay playstyle is the basis for most MMOs. Kill monster/ship, get xp and/or loot, kill monster, get xp and/or loot ... until you are incredibly rich and powerful. Sorry to say that, this is typically male. Dungeoncrawling and Power/item-grinding is nothing for ze girlz. But what made WoD different? You could solve a campaign without repetitive Hack&Slay dice orgies. You had to gather information, see who was plotting against you, do your own intrigues, find allies, backstabb allies, blackmail enemies, hide your own dirty secrets etc.
It is like metagaming in Eve, but without the pew-pew. If CCP can catch that style of play, WoD is win. If PVE is just grinding for new highheels and PVP consists of WerwolvesVSvampiresVSmagesVShuntersVSwraith WHOwinSZOMZOMGblobBBBB1!!!!11 it's nothing than emo-barbie online and just another MMO. __________________________________________________
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Daphne Mezereum
Caldari Half Lethal
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Posted - 2009.06.01 13:20:00 -
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I'd hardly think that the company that owns White Wolf would be dragged into court by White Wolf:)
But yeah, I too fear that its going to be nWOD. Anyways, we still have Malkovians.
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Pherusa Plumosa
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.01 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Daphne Mezereum I'd hardly think that the company that owns White Wolf would be dragged into court by White Wolf:)
But yeah, I too fear that its going to be nWOD. Anyways, we still have Malkovians.
Not all the old WoD licenses/patents are owned by White Wolf anymore. They had "internal issues" years ago. I think that is one of the main reasons, why nWoD started. __________________________________________________
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Daphne Mezereum
Caldari Half Lethal
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Posted - 2009.06.01 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Pherusa Plumosa
Originally by: Daphne Mezereum I'd hardly think that the company that owns White Wolf would be dragged into court by White Wolf:)
But yeah, I too fear that its going to be nWOD. Anyways, we still have Malkovians.
Not all the old WoD licenses/patents are owned by White Wolf anymore. They had "internal issues" years ago. I think that is one of the main reasons, why nWoD started.
Could you give me examples of what licences they dont own anymore? I'd gladly forgo pixies, mummies, and hell, even mages if I can keep my vamps,wolves,hunters and wraiths.
Of please Gods Of Asgard, let there be a Wraith expansion.
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.06.01 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: TraininVain Day 1 the server is going to be full of creepy old men.
Yep, vampires.
TouchTe. LOL, brilliant. -------------
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THE L0CK
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Posted - 2009.06.01 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue What does targeting that particular democraphic even mean? Most of the current games seem to target males of that agegroup and the games are mostly worthless piles of superficial ****. Can anyone else think of a full price game, that targeted young adult females?
The Sims 1, 2 and 3.
And second life
Originally by: Whitehound
If I think, but I do not.
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