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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.06.01 09:29:00 -
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So Im feeling this known syndrome now. 6months old char, Im paying 2 accounts with isk, and feels like I MUST play the game so I earn the 700 millions a month to fuel my subscription. In other words, a JOB.
already got tired of missions, mining, and trading. will PvP be the answer? Oh, sad thing is it requires even more isk
I guess im becoming one of those obsessed-with-isk guys. I would love to play this game and have real fun. Making isk is NOT fun, doing stuff is.
should I move to 0.0 joining a large alliance? Will I get my 700m/month and more while having real fun and without spending many hours a day in the mean?
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.01 09:38:00 -
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i have allos been through this problem and have found the solution which is dont pay by isk ever since i have stoped [aying by isk all the isk i collected i can use for ships ect.
i love my pvp, i love kb whoring as much as i do forums
and going back from isk to cash payments as made me a whole lot happier since i can afford more ships.
gosh if i was still using isk i wouldnt even be able to play as i havnt had much time for eve with the store ( i work at game ) build up to E3.
it all hands on deck
so yes that is my advice
pay with monies and you life in game will be a whole lot happier OFFLINE[ONLINE]
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.01 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C pay with monies and you life in game will be a whole lot happier
Yeah work a real life job with the intensity you work your eve job and you will have tons of rl cash to spend on your subs and have leftover real life money for things like food and lodging and entertainment or even a gtc to buy some stuff ingame to play with and lose to teh ebil piratz! Downside is you play a bit less eve but the upside is that of the time you do play it will be totaly what you want to do vs a boring grind just to fund next months boring grind.
Originally by: Fifinella As to trying to scare me with 0.0/lowsec, well,..... I've been there, and wasn't very scared at all. Only a little.
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Angry Poster
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Posted - 2009.06.01 09:59:00 -
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Do you have to pay with ISK? Would paying with RL cash not be an option? As the other two guys said it really makes the game more fun. I never really considered paying with ISK simply because I can earn 60$ in RL much much easier then I can come up with 1 bil ISK for ECT.
It's actually even the other way around - I'd actually recommend you to sell ETC against ISK if your playing time is limited. Since I started doing that here and there my grinding time has really gone down and the fun factor is much higher. 34$ for 660mil ISK is pretty decent in my opinion... (again, I can more easily earn 34$ then 660mil ISK so it works for me).
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Space Wanderer
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Posted - 2009.06.01 10:07:00 -
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It's so very easy.
How much time do you need to work to get the 15 bucks for the subscription? And how much time do you have to mission to gather enough isk to pay for the subscription? The lower one is the way you should go.
QED.
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Jinx Barker
Caldari GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2009.06.01 10:08:00 -
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You need to actually become old, wise, and rich. Six-month-old-character is awesome, but, in the next few years you will learn a lot more than what you know now. You will find a number of opportunities, and if you take them, you might become rich, and if you do not, you will become wise - and will know to take them in the future. Then, well, then you can say "welcome" to self sufficiency, and all that jazz.
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achoura
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Posted - 2009.06.01 10:22:00 -
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You know, when i started a bit over 3 years back a 90 day gtc cost 600m, i funded both my accounts via isk from a trade alt that required 30min work a day and never undocked. Same thing now would cost about 1.1bil i.e the cost has doubled, butt he isk you can make hourly has not which is a problem when you remember that gtc were ment to make the game more accessible.
The removal of 90d gtc in favour of 60 allowed the sellers to slowly jack the price up to almost double, factor in a recession and there's no incentive at all to reduce the cost. ***The EVE servers and their patches*** |
Wacktopia
Infinity Miners Union Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:28:00 -
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If you're playing a game you must realise that ...
a. It is for entertainment b. It is a waste of time
Comparing EVE to a job is rediculas. If you are finding it hard to earn the ISK for a GTC in-game then don't! Even on a low wage I wont take more than a couple of hours work to cover a month's game time - so if it takes longer than that to earn it in-game then you are wasting your time.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:33:00 -
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EVE is a game(a complex game though.)
If its not fun enough to be worth $15 a month then maybe it isnt for you.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Haks'he Lirky
Durgarnir
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:44:00 -
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How much time does it take you to gather those 700million a month? If it exceeds 5 hours a month then you might consider the fact that you could get those $30 some other way? Unless of course you think it's terribly fun to run missions.
700 million isk a month will pay for a lot of pvp.
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Imertu Solientai
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium should I move to 0.0 joining a large alliance? Will I get my 700m/month and more while having real fun and without spending many hours a day in the mean?
NO! 0.0 Alliances are the opposite of fun. My main is in one atm (not gonna mention who it is to save me from any more crap) and it is miserable, boring, and makes me really tempted to quit tbh. We are expected to do whatever the CEO tells us all the time, and generally those orders are "Only log on to do PVP. You aren't allowed to have fun." Combine that with a feeling that you're just another statistic on a killboard and you suddenly realise there isn't any point you even being there. You don't even feel a part of anything. It's like being in an NPC corp, except you aren't allowed to make money and you have to fight in massive laggy blobs.
So yeah, don't join a 0.0 alliance.
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Diicc Tater
Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Haks'he Lirky How much time does it take you to gather those 700million a month? If it exceeds 5 hours a month then you might consider the fact that you could get those $30 some other way? Unless of course you think it's terribly fun to run missions.
700 million isk a month will pay for a lot of pvp.
lol, I've never had 700mil in my wallet at any one time. If I had an option right now where I had the possibility to have 2 chars (one PvP/one iskfarmer) I'd have both on 1 account. Pay cash for the gametime and use isk form farmer to fund the pvp fun. As it is now, I don't have time so it's a dead issue for me.
He's right, 700mil will fund a LOT of pvp.
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Dasola
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Posted - 2009.06.01 11:58:00 -
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Im running two acounts and pay one or both of them if i happen to have isk for it. :P Fun before anything. My default plan is pay by real money, if i can pay by isk thats just bonus.
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Chris Liath
Gallente Nex Exercitus Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.06.01 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Imertu Solientai
Originally by: Ms Delerium should I move to 0.0 joining a large alliance? Will I get my 700m/month and more while having real fun and without spending many hours a day in the mean?
NO! 0.0 Alliances are the opposite of fun. My main is in one atm (not gonna mention who it is to save me from any more crap) and it is miserable, boring, and makes me really tempted to quit tbh. We are expected to do whatever the CEO tells us all the time, and generally those orders are "Only log on to do PVP. You aren't allowed to have fun." Combine that with a feeling that you're just another statistic on a killboard and you suddenly realise there isn't any point you even being there. You don't even feel a part of anything. It's like being in an NPC corp, except you aren't allowed to make money and you have to fight in massive laggy blobs.
So yeah, don't join a 0.0 alliance.
Heh... Don't make me doubt my choices, here...
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Magnus Orin
Minmatar Northern Storm Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:30:00 -
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In the time I take from getting in to work, getting a cup of coffee, reading a bit of news and settling into my day's tasks (and occasionally browsing EVE forums as I am now) I've already made enough to pay for 1 month of game time with real money.
Why would I ever want to waste my ISK on game time.
Play to have fun, not to play to work to play as you are now.
The option to pay for your account with ISK is an alternative for well established players with a strong ISK income, not for a 6 month old new player. ________
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Grunch
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:04:00 -
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I make the 15 to pay for my game in half and hour at work. I could not imagine the churn to get a 700m nut every month just to keep playing.
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Avoida
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium already got tired of missions, mining, and trading. will PvP be the answer? Oh, sad thing is it requires even more isk
I guess im becoming one of those obsessed-with-isk guys. I would love to play this game and have real fun. Making isk is NOT fun, doing stuff is.
should I move to 0.0 joining a large alliance? Will I get my 700m/month and more while having real fun and without spending many hours a day in the mean?
You do realize that there are ways to obtain lots of isk that involve very little effort/time on your part? I know many people who make lots of ISK researching blueprints and selling copies. Trading requires more effort because of the rapid changes in the market, but even then it doesn't necessarily require huge amounts of time. A well balanced approach to ISK making is your best means to make money and reduce the fatigue of focusing solely upon one avenue.
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.06.01 18:12:00 -
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$30 worth of gametime is 700m ISK.
You'd need to make 175m ISK/hour, assuming you work an $8/hour job, to make paying for ingame time worthwhile.
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Phantom Slave
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.01 19:59:00 -
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In this tough economy there are plenty of people like you who must now turn EVE into a job just to pay for their accounts. I'm in the same boat. Unfortunately at current prices of 30 day PLEX's we're looking at 400 mil a piece. I wish the prices would come down some, to make it less of a strain on us who must rely on in-game isk for PLEX's. It's hard enough to get a single job in this economy, getting a second job to pay for EVE is even harder.
/I'm poor :(
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.06.01 23:22:00 -
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Edited by: Ms Delerium on 01/06/2009 23:26:34 Edited by: Ms Delerium on 01/06/2009 23:25:25
Originally by: Kahega Amielden $30 worth of gametime is 700m ISK.
You'd need to make 175m ISK/hour, assuming you work an $8/hour job, to make paying for ingame time worthwhile.
I'll take this as an example but its for everyone else. That argument is not valid.
maths != life.
- What if Im already spending all my money on real life stuff (more important than EVE)
- What about students, or other people who can't work?
I happen to be in a limit situation. I can pay for the game, but I'd prefer to safe those 30 bucks every month. On the other hand I can probably make 1b a month while playing normally (hecks I never play more than I want to)
Its more like a feeling of Im tired of highsec lifestyle, Im asking if I should join 0.0 to get rid of this feeling, as there is more isk to earn there, while I would be playing with more people instead of soloing all the time. (???)
Seems like im talking of 2 different things but they seem to be related. Ive read of this feeling over the boards more than once.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2009.06.01 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Wacktopia If you're playing a game you must realise that ...
a. It is for entertainment b. It is a waste of time
EvE is a game??? When did this happen??
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Niclas Solo
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.06.01 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Imertu Solientai
Originally by: Ms Delerium should I move to 0.0 joining a large alliance? Will I get my 700m/month and more while having real fun and without spending many hours a day in the mean?
NO! 0.0 Alliances are the opposite of fun. My main is in one atm (not gonna mention who it is to save me from any more crap) and it is miserable, boring, and makes me really tempted to quit tbh. We are expected to do whatever the CEO tells us all the time, and generally those orders are "Only log on to do PVP. You aren't allowed to have fun." Combine that with a feeling that you're just another statistic on a killboard and you suddenly realise there isn't any point you even being there. You don't even feel a part of anything. It's like being in an NPC corp, except you aren't allowed to make money and you have to fight in massive laggy blobs.
So yeah, don't join a 0.0 alliance.
I never been in a .0 corp myself but you play for the wrong reason, leave them and join a corp that let you play the way you like it. Play the way you like it and not the way someone else like it, it's only a game so why waste your time?
Same to OP, play for fun and not because you have to collect 700m isk per month, game will get alot more fun when you don't have alot of stuff you must do. RL got enough of that crap :P
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Zurrain
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Posted - 2009.06.02 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Phantom Slave In this tough economy there are plenty of people like you who must now turn EVE into a job just to pay for their accounts. I'm in the same boat. Unfortunately at current prices of 30 day PLEX's we're looking at 400 mil a piece. I wish the prices would come down some, to make it less of a strain on us who must rely on in-game isk for PLEX's. It's hard enough to get a single job in this economy, getting a second job to pay for EVE is even harder.
/I'm poor :(
While getting a full/part time second job might be tough, making an extra $15 bucks isn't. Go mow a lawn, shovel a sidewalk, recycle your cans/bottles, keep a change jar, etc.
If you're young, finding a crap job isn't hard... and is a much better investment of time than grinding out isk in-game. If you older and are having trouble squeezing an extra $15 bucks into your budget, then you should probably stop playing videogames and concentrate on other aspects of your life.
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