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Nara Imperium
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Posted - 2009.06.03 21:51:00 -
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Hows will this do in pvp? Cap should stay stable for 9M 30S.
Ballistic Control System II Shield Power Relay I Shield Power Relay I Power Diagnostic System II
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Prototype Cloaking Device I 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Hobgoblin II x5
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.06.03 21:55:00 -
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Terribly. Fill your launcher slots, don't passive tank, fit an mwd, point, damage control, and damage mods.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.03 21:56:00 -
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Cap stable is for Dreads and P**sies. If you want to pvp cheap then at least fit 3 shield resist rigs, drop an Inv, add a MWD or lolAB, get rid of the spr's and add more BCS.
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Valtis Thermalion
Caldari Humantarget Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.03 22:02:00 -
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[Drake, Ham Drake] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile [empty high slot] Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x5
You can replace damage control or bcs with pds. If you want to fit warp disruptor instead of warp scrambler, you need to downgrade web\dc to named, cpu is tight.
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Balcura
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Posted - 2009.06.03 22:19:00 -
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^ | | | This
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Nara Imperium
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Posted - 2009.06.03 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Nara Imperium on 03/06/2009 22:40:07 How about this?
[Drake, Ham Drake] Co-Processor I Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Prototype Cloaking Device I [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x5
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Valtis Thermalion
Caldari Humantarget Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.03 22:50:00 -
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Use all the launcher slots. Drake has lower dps than the gankier battlecruisers to begin with, and if you drop launchers, your dps will be abysmal.
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Nara Imperium
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Posted - 2009.06.03 22:57:00 -
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Would a Ferox, Brutix, or Myrm be better for pvp then?
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.06.04 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Tzar''rim on 04/06/2009 00:05:27 A drake is surprisingly good once people stop trying to tank like an idiot. Thing is that most drakes are flown by pve players and (thus) fail due to fitting issues, SP issues and lack of experience, but in reality a good drake is nothing to laugh at. Here's what I'd use, in fleets you'll want a long range point ofcourse but for solo this works well.
[Drake, pvp] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Scrambler II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile [empty high slot] Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Ancillary Current Router I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Hornet EC-300 x5
Self-proclaimed idiot
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Stuart Price
Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.06.04 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Nara Imperium Would a Ferox, Brutix, or Myrm be better for pvp then?
No
There's already the absolute best small gang/solo pvp setup posted in this thread. The best, PERIOD. Properly fitted HAM-Drake murders all other ships in its class as well as pretty much anything smaller. HAC's, recons, AF's, they all die to the HAM-Drake.
For larger gangs, you use HML's and just pour sustained, inescapable damage onto anything within range. Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate' |
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Removal Tool
Eternal Perseverance
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Posted - 2009.06.04 00:28:00 -
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The first rule of HAM Drake Club is:
Don't talk about Ham Drake Club.
This thread never happened. Go back to sleep. Reptilians do not exist. Fractional Reserve Banking is here to help. You are not slaves....next up, American Idol.
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Liang Nuren
The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2009.06.04 00:33:00 -
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TBQFH passive Drakes have a use, and that use is tanking sentry guns for an extended period. Also, fit HML and remote sensor boosters in all utility slots. :)
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Xianthar
STK Scientific The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.06.04 04:24:00 -
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outside of the other problems already mentioned...
the only thing on this that uses cap are the invulns and cloak, how, in the world, is this not cap stable? do you have any engineering skills?
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Hannah Hoffmann
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Posted - 2009.06.04 04:47:00 -
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Edited by: Hannah Hoffmann on 04/06/2009 04:47:59 This is what I use:
[Drake, New Setup 1] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II
10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Large 'Vehemence' I Shockwave Charge
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hornet EC-300 x5
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Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum Pax Romana Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.04 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nara Imperium How about this?
I'm curious as to why you took a well-accepted Drake fit, then removed two launchers and a BCS (i.e. removed a third of the DPS) in order to fit a cloaking device. Is the cloak really worth that much to you that it's worth completely castrating your combat effectiveness to fit? (The correct answer is "no", by the way. )
If by some chance you really do need a cloak, then that should have been expressed as a constraint in your first post. But I'm assuming this is for empire PvP, where you always have stations and unbubbled gates if you want to be invulnerable for a bit. Cloaks are well balanced so that they're not very effective on unbonused ships for anything except cloaking at a safespot (especially the prototype cloaks).
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4THELULZ
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Posted - 2009.06.04 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Nara Imperium Edited by: Nara Imperium on 03/06/2009 22:40:07 How about this?
[Drake, Ham Drake] Co-Processor I Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Prototype Cloaking Device I [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x5
Why are you so determined to fit a cloaking device while completely neglecting your launchers? Give one of the other perfectly good setups in this thread a go rather than prototype lolfits.
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NoNah
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Posted - 2009.06.04 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren TBQFH passive Drakes have a use, and that use is tanking sentry guns for an extended period. Also, fit HML and remote sensor boosters in all utility slots. :)
-Liang
Just... why would you want to do that in the first place? And do you really have utility midslots on a passive drake? O_o Parrots, commence!
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Shade Millith
International House of PWNCakes Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.04 12:55:00 -
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Drake is, bar none, my favorite ship to fly My usual fit for PVP
[Drake, New Setup 2] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Warp Scrambler II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Salvager I Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Hobgoblin I x5
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Beverly Sparks
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Posted - 2009.06.04 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Shade Millith Drake is, bar none, my favorite ship to fly My usual fit for PVP
[Drake, New Setup 2] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Warp Scrambler II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Salvager I Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Hobgoblin I x5
I don't like the positioning of your salvager.
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.06.04 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Beverly Sparks I don't like the positioning of your salvager.
Overheating damage is based on positioning in the rack. It's right where it should be.
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2009.06.04 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Shade Millith Hobgoblin I x5
I dont like t1 drones.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.06.04 15:31:00 -
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I don't like his empty rig slots or absence of LSE.
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.06.04 15:33:00 -
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Fitting an lse without a pds requires quite a bit of awu iirc. It should have at least resist rigs though.
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.06.04 15:35:00 -
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Yeah, AWU VI in fact - it needs a 3% PG implant. But shield resist rigs make sense in all but the most suicidal of implementations.
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McDaddy Pimp
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.04 15:43:00 -
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just thought i put in mine to
[Drake, Battle Turtle] Reactor Control Unit II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Warrior II x5
You gonna need a 5% PG implant though
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Hatsumi Kobayashi
Balls Deep Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.04 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nara Imperium Edited by: Nara Imperium on 03/06/2009 22:40:07 How about this?
[Drake, Ham Drake] Co-Processor I Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Prototype Cloaking Device I [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x5
Nice troll. ______
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Poision Kevin
Amarr Big Guns Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.04 18:07:00 -
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Not to brag but i am a really good pvper (in BC's) i have bc 5 all armor compensitions 5 and fly a harb. I met a drake, thought that i'd kill him easy, he had a desent tank and good dps with HAM's i got killed and came half way on his shield. i was like: WTF?
I talked to this guy after the fight, asked if he would like to share his fit he said yes. He writed it to me and since then i've been useing the same fit and with success, here it is.
Highs: 7x HAM II's, 1x small unstable power fluctuator
Mids: 2x invulnerability field II's, 1x Warp disruptor II, X5 prototype I engine enervator, 1x LSE II, 1x Y-T8 overcharged hydrocarbon I microwarpdrive
Lows: 3x bcu II's, 1x PDU II
Riggs:: 2x anti-em screen rienforcer I, 1x anti-thermenal screen rienforcer I
Drones: 5x warrior II's
i'm looking for players that want a good
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Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum Pax Romana Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.04 19:27:00 -
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Yeah, that's the pretty standard fit. One very minor point - if you're fitting two invuln fields (which is almost always the case on a HAM Drake), then 2 EM rigs aren't really worth it since you've then got four modules affecting the same resistance hence the second rig is only 27% effective. Adding a kinetic rig instead will result in less stacking penalties, and a better "omni" tank.
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Shade Millith
International House of PWNCakes Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.04 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III I don't like his empty rig slots or absence of LSE.
Don't have the fitting skill for the LSE and I'm too cheap for the rigs.
When you fly them like I do (In to the middle of a hostile gang and look to gank something before you die) the rigs tend to add up
And the drones I'm looking to fix eventually. --------------------------------------------
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4THELULZ
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Posted - 2009.06.04 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Shade Millith
Originally by: Gypsio III I don't like his empty rig slots or absence of LSE.
Don't have the fitting skill for the LSE and I'm too cheap for the rigs.
When you fly them like I do (In to the middle of a hostile gang and look to gank something before you die) the rigs tend to add up
And the drones I'm looking to fix eventually.
So... you lack fitting skills and money for basic tank and skills for t2 drones? I'm not surprised your losses add up fast trying to fly a Drake with that mess.
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