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Ager Agemo
Radiant Technologies The House Of Cards.
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Posted - 2012.05.17 04:44:00 -
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so... as it stands right now it seems now tracking disruptors will affect missile explosion radius, I m completely confused... we are all asking for missiles to get a buff for pvp and overall. but instead they are getting nerfed even further? aren't the T2 penalties already bad enough? I GǪ don't even.. what... I m just so confused about why ccp is doing this?
And no, tracking computers do not boost missiles from what I have seen. |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
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Posted - 2012.05.17 04:55:00 -
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Confirming this subject needed a completely new thread. +1 in local |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.05.17 05:08:00 -
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It explains why they wanted to re-bonus the Drake. How about + 5% Shield resistance, - 5% Explosion Velocity? Trade in Damnation Velocity bonus for Explosion Velocity too please.
I hope the Dust Bunnies like their new Missiles. We paid a heavy price for them. |
Orlacc
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Posted - 2012.05.17 05:14:00 -
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Wow next thing they will make missiles miss! |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2012.05.17 05:27:00 -
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I hear they are going to also take capacitor to fire :p |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
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Posted - 2012.05.17 05:40:00 -
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CCP just wants to remove Caldari from the game. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
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Posted - 2012.05.17 05:42:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:CCP just wants to remove Caldari from the game. I endorse this product/service. +1 in local |
masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
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Posted - 2012.05.17 05:44:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:masternerdguy wrote:CCP just wants to remove Caldari from the game. I endorse this product/service.
Right. Diversity must die. Everyone should be in close range blasterboats doing bare knuckle combat at 500m! How dare you want more options in the game.
People who want a variety of play-styles are communists and hippies right? Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
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Posted - 2012.05.17 05:50:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Everyone should be in close range blasterboats doing bare knuckle combat at 500m! I see no problems with honorable mustachioed combat. +1 in local |
Hayaishi
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2012.05.17 07:14:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Everyone should be in close range blasterboats doing bare knuckle combat at 500m!
Yes please :) |
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Allko
Zero Tax services
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Posted - 2012.05.17 10:25:00 -
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Ager Agemo wrote:so... as it stands right now it seems now tracking disruptors will affect missile explosion radius, I m completely confused... we are all asking for missiles to get a buff for pvp and overall. but instead they are getting nerfed even further? aren't the T2 penalties already bad enough? I GǪ don't even.. what... I m just so confused about why ccp is doing this?
And no, tracking computers do not boost missiles from what I have seen.
Could You pls link Your source of info regarding this BS
Thank You in advance |
Nnamuachs
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.17 10:53:00 -
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Allko wrote:Ager Agemo wrote:so... as it stands right now it seems now tracking disruptors will affect missile explosion radius, I m completely confused... we are all asking for missiles to get a buff for pvp and overall. but instead they are getting nerfed even further? aren't the T2 penalties already bad enough? I GǪ don't even.. what... I m just so confused about why ccp is doing this?
And no, tracking computers do not boost missiles from what I have seen. Could You pls link Your source of info regarding this BS Thank You in advance
/me points at the test server.
have a look yourself, its there. |
St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.17 10:57:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Everyone should be in close range blasterboats doing bare knuckle combat at 500m! I see no problems with honorable mustachioed combat. I do say, this is a most splendid suggestion! |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2012.05.17 11:02:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Confirming this subject needed a completely new thread.
Confirming CCP is completely ignoring the community's arguments why making Tracking Disruptors ALSO working on the already underpowered missiles is a bad idea. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum Alliance 99000802
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Posted - 2012.05.17 11:03:00 -
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Damn and I just started training missiles past my already 5m SP that I won't use. |
evereplicant
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.17 11:07:00 -
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CCP have now nailed the final coffin in missiles... All those nice missile graphic updates you did? waste of time seeing no one will use missiles anymore |
Jonah Gravenstein
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Posted - 2012.05.17 11:19:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Everyone should be in close range blasterboats doing bare knuckle combat at 500m! I see no problems with honorable mustachioed combat.
Going by some of the female avatars you see, it'll be an equal opportunities bare knuckle bout War hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.17 11:52:00 -
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RankWeapons Kills 1 Heavy Missile Launcher II 29339
Yeah nobody uses missiles, completely underpowered. Only the most deadly weapon in the game.
In the beginning high security space was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.17 11:52:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Everyone should be in close range blasterboats doing bare knuckle combat at 500m! I see no problems with honorable mustachioed combat.
/ signed In the beginning high security space was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. |
TheButcherPete
Specter Syndicate CORE Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.17 11:55:00 -
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awww, you're just upset that your missiles were e-war proof, because a. Smartbombs were rarely timed good enough to kill one, and b. defenders are useless.
Then you complain when CCP brings your weapon to scale with all other weapons, thus leveling the playing field.
HTFU, hardly anyone fits tracking disrupts anyway My moncole doubles as a cigarette lighter, a flashlight, a laser and x-ray goggles. If you haven't noticed yet, I'm in love with Punkturis. -á-á-á
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Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.17 11:58:00 -
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TheButcherPete wrote:awww, you're just upset that your missiles were e-war proof, because a. Smartbombs were rarely timed good enough to kill one, and b. defenders are useless.
Then you complain when CCP brings your weapon to scale with all other weapons, thus leveling the playing field.
HTFU, hardly anyone fits tracking disrupts anyway
Dont listen to this man, he self destructs his bad fit carriers. |
Nnamuachs
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.05.17 12:00:00 -
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TheButcherPete wrote:awww, you're just upset that your missiles were e-war proof, because a. Smartbombs were rarely timed good enough to kill one, and b. defenders are useless.
Then you complain when CCP brings your weapon to scale with all other weapons, thus leveling the playing field.
HTFU, hardly anyone fits tracking disrupts anyway
I wouldn't say defenders are entirely useless (just mostly).
Anyways, this isnt really leveling the playing field as missile users receive no counters to these modules. There are no modules to reduce the explosion radius of missiles. Additionally, as i mentioned in the other thread, one of the overlooked problems is this issue in relation to the Guided Missile Precision skill which only bonuses standards, heavies and cruise missiles. Rockets, Assaults and Torps are considered dumb missiles. For this fact alone they should make the tracking disruptors "not" effect the dumb missiles (can't tracking disrupt a weapon that doesn't track you.) Or correct some other underlying issues to make these changes more balanced. |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.05.17 12:02:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Wow next thing they will make missiles miss!
Actually this would have more sense than increase explo radius = less dmg
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Arec Bardwin
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.17 13:15:00 -
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No dev response to these changes yet? |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
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Posted - 2012.05.17 14:25:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:No dev response to these changes yet?
All complaints that used to go to different people in at CCP are now being put in to a unifited collection bucket (UCB)where they can use filters to find out what the issues are and report back to you. However, every time they move a finished complaint to the 'done' pile they have to reopen the original folder again. They also need to reopen the UCB when they:
Read an email Walk away from their computer Log in to their time tracking system Try to log in to D3
But don't worry. This is much better than the current system of people being able to sort their work out on their computer in a useful fashion.
(sorry for the hijack attempt)
The Unified Inventory system for Inferno, which I would recommend everybody tryon SiSi, is going to be the next 'Door' for CCP. What it adds is worthless when we lose so much functionality.-á |
cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.05.17 14:25:00 -
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Because CCP dont have a ******* clue how to balance units.
They only occasionally look at balance, mabye once every 2 or 3 years. They dont for the most part even understand thier own game so most balance changes are superficial.
You will notice they tend to change and **** things up then leave them that way for years.
(Yes rant over) Ignore This.-á "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn |
Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.17 14:29:00 -
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Orlacc wrote:Wow next thing they will make missiles miss!
I see what you did there. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
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Posted - 2012.05.17 14:37:00 -
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Can anyone give a quick run-down on why missiles are so bad in the game? Is it simply time-to-target? +1 in local |
cBOLTSON
Star Frontiers Ignore This.
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Posted - 2012.05.17 14:44:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Can anyone give a quick run-down on why missiles are so bad in the game? Is it simply time-to-target?
Briefly - Yes. At long ranges missile flight time is an issue. Also the speed and sig radius of a target greatly affects how much damage you can do. (Or if your missile will do anything substantial at all)
This is true for turrets also, however as range increases with turret based weapons it gets easier and easier to track a target. For instance medium arty on a hurricane can still instapop small stuff or at least cause mass damage if the target is not point blank.
Missile however will continue to do very little damage regardless of the range. Battleship class missiles (Also citadel missiles) are even worse when it comes to this.
Turrets have midslot tracking computers , as well as lowslot tracking enhancers to boost range and tracking. Missiles however only have rigs to boost thier percieved 'tracking ability'. (Explosion radius and velocity)
However only half of the missiles can use half of these rigs. (Dumb fired torps and hams for example)
Overall this leaves missiles somewhat lacking for pvp. Im sure there is someone who can explain this even better than I. Ignore This.-á "Were not elitists, were just tired of fail" - The Sorn |
leich
Nocturnal Romance Fall From Heaven
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Posted - 2012.05.17 14:57:00 -
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Drake + Tengu nerf in one swing of the bat.
AWSOME.
BEST THING CCP HAS DONE IN 5 YEARS. |
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