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Khergit Deserters
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:09:00 -
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Savage Angel wrote:Ice Hockey is it. Bugger all these other so called games. This is true. It's like soccer/football, but much faster. It beats basketball, which has all those counter-intuitive rules about no physical contact. It doesn't have as much strategy as Hand Egg, but it has fighting. As for baseball... well, that's just good as background noise on the tube while you're taking a nap on the couch. It's medically proven to induce sleep. Only the only thing more potent is golf on the tube. |
Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
144
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:12:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Savage Angel wrote:Ice Hockey is it. Bugger all these other so called games. This is true. It's like soccer/football, but much faster. It beats basketball, which has all those counter-intuitive rules about no physical contact. It doesn't have as much strategy as Hand Egg, but it has fighting. As for baseball... well, that's just good as background noise on the tube while you're taking a nap on the couch. It's medically proven to induce sleep. Only the only thing more potent is golf on the tube. I went to a Blackhawks/Bruins competition and a game broke out in the middlle of the fight! Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
Ezekiel DeSangre
39
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:24:00 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:Savage Angel wrote:Ice Hockey is it. Bugger all these other so called games. This is true. It's like soccer/football, but much faster. It beats basketball, which has all those counter-intuitive rules about no physical contact. It doesn't have as much strategy as Hand Egg, but it has fighting. As for baseball... well, that's just good as background noise on the tube while you're taking a nap on the couch. It's medically proven to induce sleep. Only the only thing more potent is golf on the tube. I went to a Blackhawks/Bruins competition and a game broke out in the middlle of the fight!
Lol. Hey, I love hockey but I think that 6' 250lb football players on ice skates would be ridiculous. Meh.. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
83
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:31:00 -
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Epic derail lol.
Also a bad analogy. I imagine this is a "play style" high vs null thing right? Well, it's apples and oranges.
Football (real american football, not the soccer the unwashed 3rd world countries...and England...plays :) ) and baseball have NOTHING to do with each other, unlike how High Sec is just a part of a game tthat also has null sec, low sec and Wormhole Space.
People playing baseball instead of football doesn't mean the sports economy falls apart lol, but if everyone stayed in high sec, the eve economy would crash because there is no one to sell all the nice stuff the high sec builders made or the mission runners bought with their LP.
A better analogy is that EVE is soccer, but high sec is a special field off to the side of the REAL (null, WH, low) field for those "special" kids who need to use their hands to get the ball into the net because using their feet is hard.....and that's ok, because they are (short bus) SPECIAL.
High Sec players love to think everyone wants them out of high sec because we just don't like how they play. Newsflash, we don't care how you play, we care about the game we play that has an economy that NEEDS ships to blow up and ammo to be used on more than just NPCs.
While we aren't down with the whole casual/solo thing like High Sec players tend to be (and folks like me do wonder why someone who wants "casual" and solo" chooses to play an MMO in the 1st place), we appreciate them subbing so the company that makes the game we play can survive.
We just wish they'd stop complaining about the natural balance of eve, a balance in which high sec MUST (for the sake of the game) be a less lucrative and yes, less interesting place to be because the real, player driven sectors of the game (low, null and WH) need it to be that way, else there is no reason for them to exist.
Also, baseball sucks. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
507
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:32:00 -
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Chicken sandwich vs Me. No contest *burp* WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
144
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:36:00 -
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This, too, has nothing to do with EVE. Let's see if a phantom notices... Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
baltec1
1172
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:37:00 -
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Ezekiel DeSangre wrote:Karn Dulake wrote:Hand Egg is not a bad game but its nothing on Rugby.
Also rounders is a game that children play I love when people say rugby is tougher than FOOTBALL(that's what it's called by the way..that other game that people play is called soccer) because if you took all the pads and helmets off of football players, they would literally be killing each other. Football players are faster and stronger. Football>rugby. *smirk*
The handegg players would be gasping on the floor because rugby players dont stop after 30 seconds for a 5 min break. Also Football was invented serveral hundred years before MERICA was even found. |
Savage Angel
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:40:00 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:Savage Angel wrote:Ice Hockey is it. Bugger all these other so called games. This is true. It's like soccer/football, but much faster. It beats basketball, which has all those counter-intuitive rules about no physical contact. It doesn't have as much strategy as Hand Egg, but it has fighting. As for baseball... well, that's just good as background noise on the tube while you're taking a nap on the couch. It's medically proven to induce sleep. Only the only thing more potent is golf on the tube.
Hockey is also the only sport where "no blood, no foul" is literally true. If a penalty draws blood, you get a second penalty for making 'em bleed. |
Ezekiel DeSangre
39
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:41:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ezekiel DeSangre wrote:Karn Dulake wrote:Hand Egg is not a bad game but its nothing on Rugby.
Also rounders is a game that children play I love when people say rugby is tougher than FOOTBALL(that's what it's called by the way..that other game that people play is called soccer) because if you took all the pads and helmets off of football players, they would literally be killing each other. Football players are faster and stronger. Football>rugby. *smirk* The handegg players would be gasping on the floor because rugby players dont stop after 30 seconds for a 5 min break. Also Football was invented serveral hundred years before MERICA was even found.
5 minute break? Native Americans were playing football? Meh.. |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
326
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:42:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: Also Football was invented serveral hundred years before MERICA was even found.
I heard that back in those days men used to play it, is this true?
Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
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baltec1
1172
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:49:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:baltec1 wrote: Also Football was invented serveral hundred years before MERICA was even found. I heard that back in those days men used to play it, is this true?
The football was a head, a broken leg was considered a light tackle and the only drink on offer was ale. A true sport of men. |
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
326
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Posted - 2012.05.17 19:10:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:THE L0CK wrote:baltec1 wrote: Also Football was invented serveral hundred years before MERICA was even found. I heard that back in those days men used to play it, is this true? The football was a head, a broken leg was considered a light tackle and the only drink on offer was ale. A true sport of men.
That sounds awesome! So why did they change it to a girls sport? Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Sarmatiko
717
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Posted - 2012.05.17 19:22:00 -
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Ezekiel DeSangre wrote:5 minute break? Native Americans were playing football? Long before your World-on-three-whale-turtle was discovered by vikings, other smart people like greeks and chinese invented actual meta-football, not your parody on rugby with helmets and metal underpants |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1517
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:12:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:OP please clarify. You call "football' that game where bunch of players run on the field with egg in their hands? You should learn some sports history before making comments like that. You look silly. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Zyress
The Fabulous Thunderbirds
79
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Posted - 2012.05.17 21:17:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Epic derail lol.
Also a bad analogy. I imagine this is a "play style" high vs null thing right? Well, it's apples and oranges.
Football (real american football, not the soccer the unwashed 3rd world countries...and England...plays :) ) and baseball have NOTHING to do with each other, unlike how High Sec is just a part of a game tthat also has null sec, low sec and Wormhole Space.
People playing baseball instead of football doesn't mean the sports economy falls apart lol, but if everyone stayed in high sec, the eve economy would crash because there is no one to sell all the nice stuff the high sec builders made or the mission runners bought with their LP.
A better analogy is that EVE is soccer, but high sec is a special field off to the side of the REAL (null, WH, low) field for those "special" kids who need to use their hands to get the ball into the net because using their feet is hard.....and that's ok, because they are (short bus) SPECIAL.
High Sec players love to think everyone wants them out of high sec because we just don't like how they play. Newsflash, we don't care how you play, we care about the game we play that has an economy that NEEDS ships to blow up and ammo to be used on more than just NPCs.
While we aren't down with the whole casual/solo thing like High Sec players tend to be (and folks like me do wonder why someone who wants "casual" and solo" chooses to play an MMO in the 1st place), we appreciate them subbing so the company that makes the game we play can survive.
We just wish they'd stop complaining about the natural balance of eve, a balance in which high sec MUST (for the sake of the game) be a less lucrative and yes, less interesting place to be because the real, player driven sectors of the game (low, null and WH) need it to be that way, else there is no reason for them to exist.
Also, baseball sucks.
Oh I see back on target eh? Well I think you got it backwards there. Hi-sec isn't complaining about how profitable it is in Null-sec or Lo-sec, Null-sec and Lo-sec are complaining about how hi-sec players can make a decent enough income to ignore them. Also I agree, baseball is a pass time not a sport |
Zyress
The Fabulous Thunderbirds
79
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Posted - 2012.05.17 21:22:00 -
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Ezekiel DeSangre wrote:Zyress wrote:Hestia Mar wrote:You need to change the title of the thread...football is a sport played around the world, with a round ball and two goals. The secret of course is in the name; foot...ball - you kick the ball with your foot.
I assume your less than funny thread was talking about AMERICAN football - maybe it should have it's name changed to "Bounty Ball"
From a fan of baseball, even though I'm English... At least fatalities are rare in the stands at football games as opposed to soccer games. I see you've never been to a Raider game.
I said rare not unheard of |
Sarmatiko
717
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Posted - 2012.05.17 21:23:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Sarmatiko wrote:OP please clarify. You call "football' that game where bunch of players run on the field with egg in their hands? You should learn some sports history before making comments like that. You look silly. US-centered history, or normal that used in the rest of the world? You even use the word "soccer" that only used in one country to compensate primitiveness of Hand Egg |
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
453
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Posted - 2012.05.17 21:37:00 -
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Ituhata Saken wrote:I see what you did there. Also I couldn't help thinking Dave is John Madden in disguise.
Can't be...no mention of Brett Favre.
And football is way better. "If." |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
640
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Posted - 2012.05.17 22:04:00 -
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Figured "football" would refer to that stuff they do in the USA, leaving satisfied. EVE residents: 5% WH; 8% Lowsec; 15% Nullsec; 72% Highsec. CSM 7: 1 highsec resident out of 14.-á
CSM demographics vs EVE demographics, nothing to worry about... |
Zyress
The Fabulous Thunderbirds
79
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Posted - 2012.05.17 22:29:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Sarmatiko wrote:OP please clarify. You call "football' that game where bunch of players run on the field with egg in their hands? You should learn some sports history before making comments like that. You look silly. US-centered history, or normal that used in the rest of the world? You even use the word "soccer" that only used in one country to compensate primitiveness of Hand Egg the origin of the word GÇ£soccerGÇ¥. For all you out there who love to complain when Americans, and certain others, call GÇ£FootballGÇ¥, GÇ£SoccerGÇ¥, you should know that it was the British that invented the word and it was also one of the first names of what we now primarily know of as GÇ£FootballGÇ¥.
In fact, in the early days of the sport among the upper echelons of British society, the proper term for the sport was GÇ£SoccerGÇ¥. Not only that, but the sport being referred to as GÇ£SoccerGÇ¥ preceded the first recorded instance of it being called by the singular word GÇ£FootballGÇ¥ by about 18 years.
You 3rd world scum should learn proper english |
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Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
8
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Posted - 2012.05.18 09:49:00 -
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Zyress wrote:Sarmatiko wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Sarmatiko wrote:OP please clarify. You call "football' that game where bunch of players run on the field with egg in their hands? You should learn some sports history before making comments like that. You look silly. US-centered history, or normal that used in the rest of the world? You even use the word "soccer" that only used in one country to compensate primitiveness of Hand Egg the origin of the word GÇ£soccerGÇ¥. For all you out there who love to complain when Americans, and certain others, call GÇ£FootballGÇ¥, GÇ£SoccerGÇ¥, you should know that it was the British that invented the word and it was also one of the first names of what we now primarily know of as GÇ£FootballGÇ¥. In fact, in the early days of the sport among the upper echelons of British society, the proper term for the sport was GÇ£SoccerGÇ¥. Not only that, but the sport being referred to as GÇ£SoccerGÇ¥ preceded the first recorded instance of it being called by the singular word GÇ£FootballGÇ¥ by about 18 years. You 3rd world scum should learn proper english
While you might have a point about the name 'soccer' (although this is normally put forward by Rugby players lol), why then are all clubs called 'FC' - Football Club - and the football authorities are called the Football Association, Deutsche Fussball Bund, etc? |
WheelsUK
Praetorian Cannibals
0
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Posted - 2012.05.18 11:55:00 -
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Of the 45 national FIFA (F+¬d+¬ration Internationale de Football Association) affiliates in which English is an official or primary language, 43 use football in their organisations' official names (only Canada and the United States use soccer). Soccer has been the prevailing term for association football in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, where other codes of football are dominant. The term used for association football is going through a period of transition in recent times. In 2005, Australia's association football governing body changed its name from soccer to football to align with the general international usage of the term.[1] In 2006, New Zealand decided to follow suit citing "the international game is called football".[2]
Yes i stole it what of it. |
Astenion
Nephilim Coalition Zombie Ninja Space Bears
151
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Posted - 2012.05.18 13:06:00 -
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Whatever you think about American football, baseball, or rugby, I'd still take any of them over soccer. What a dull sport. Weak, limp-wristed metrosexuals bouncing balls off their heads and crying when they break an eyelash.
What seems to be a recurring theme (at least with the UK) is that they love to go on and on about how weak American football is or how stupid baseball is when they've never even played either one. If you actually KNEW how rugby is played and how gridiron football is played and knew the stark differences between the two, you'd actually see that gridiron football is much, much more violent than rugby. Baseball takes much more skill than kicking a ball around the field as well. True, rugby is an endurance sport in which the players are basically playing full contact soccer but able to use their hands. However, there are no spears in the face with their heads, and the tackling is mostly arm tackling because they'd kill each other if they hit them head on. Hence, the pads in gridiron.
By the way, baseball is NOT a sport. It is a game, much like golf is a game and not a sport. I love baseball, but it is not a sport. Baseball is actually quite a relaxing activity, even if it's very competitive. It's great fun, but you have to be good at it and this is why most fans of soccer hate it because they can't play it. They suck at hand-eye coordination and just say, "Bah, it's like rounders!" No, it's not.
Think of gridiron football as a chess game...it's actually war hidden by jerseys and helmets. Every down is a different play, a different strategy. They stop in order to change strategies, not because they're tired. Take a middle linebacker and any rugby player, put them both in pads, and the linebacker will put the rugby player on the ground every time, do you know why? Because their bodies are being used in a different way. In gridiron, their bodies are used as a projectile and are meant to simply bludgeon them to death, whereas in rugby there's a little more finesse.
Bottom line, unless you've played all of them, STFU. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1520
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Posted - 2012.05.18 18:46:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Sarmatiko wrote:OP please clarify. You call "football' that game where bunch of players run on the field with egg in their hands? You should learn some sports history before making comments like that. You look silly. US-centered history, or normal that used in the rest of the world? You even use the word "soccer" that only used in one country to compensate primitiveness of Hand Egg
LESSON TIME!
The term "football" originally referred to games played on FOOT with a BALL. That's opposed to games played on horseback, which were the prefered sports of the rich/noble. This comes from writings made in England and other non-American places.
The game you think of as football is actually Association Football. At some point in the history of American sports, "Association" got shortened to "Soccer". Prior to Gridiron (aka American) Football becoming a major thing, you can find newspapers referring to Soccer Football teams and events. As gridiron became the dominant sport in the U.S. and people started simply calling it "football" and YOUR football became "soccer" just the same as you call Rugby Football, rugby. It avoids confusion. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1520
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Posted - 2012.05.18 19:00:00 -
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Astenion wrote:What seems to be a recurring theme (at least with the UK) is that they love to go on and on about how weak American football is or how stupid baseball is when they've never even played either one. If you actually KNEW how rugby is played and how gridiron football is played and knew the stark differences between the two, you'd actually see that gridiron football is much, much more violent than rugby. Baseball takes much more skill than kicking a ball around the field as well. True, rugby is an endurance sport in which the players are basically playing full contact soccer but able to use their hands. However, there are no spears in the face with their heads, and the tackling is mostly arm tackling because they'd kill each other if they hit them head on. Hence, the pads in gridiron.
The pads in gridiron are why the violence exists, actually. In the days of leather helmets, tackles were a lot less brutal. It's the safety of the pads that makes players feel invincible enough to deal crippling hits to their opponents. Frankly, I think it's over the top and recent research demonstrating just how much neurological damage gridiron football can do makes me hope my sons never, EVER play it. Here are a few permanent injuries picked up by personal friends of mine in HIGH SCHOOL football:
- Broken back which cost him a college football scholarship and left him with moderate back pain for the past 15 years. - Repeatedly hyperextended knee that left him unable run or even walk long distances. The sudden loss of mobility combined with his high-calorie diet as an athlete resulted in obesity with which he still struggles today. - Multiple concussions ignored by coaches which led to migraines and short-term memory loss. This has become a major issue for professional players in recent years and will likely result in some significant rules changes in the near future.
I enjoy gridiron. It's fun to play and entertaining to watch from time to time. But don't make it out to be this amazing sport because of how hard they hit. Those hits can ruin lives.
As for your characterization of soccer, I have to disagree. My oldest son plays it and it's quite a lot of fun. The professional soccer leagues need to crack down on the faked injuries that make their sport such a joke, but soccer requires just as much skill as gridiron or baseball. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |
Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.05.18 19:33:00 -
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Baseball takes too long as a spectator's sport. I like football, but even that is starting to take too long with all the time outs for commercials. I think the game which had the most quarters ended in under 3 hours, real time. A 4 quarter game today takes about 3-3.25 hours. Get rid of the timeouts after kickoffs, punts, etc and it might make the game move a little better. I <3 Vexors. |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
461
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Posted - 2012.05.18 21:19:00 -
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The funny thing is that this thread was originally supposed to illustrate the differences in peoples views as opposed to high, low, and null sec. The irony is that the conversation is essentially the same. |
Baneken
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
124
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Posted - 2012.05.19 19:24:00 -
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I'll just leave this here pes+ñpallo |
leviticus ander
CATO.nss
152
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Posted - 2012.05.19 20:29:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote: As for your characterization of soccer, I have to disagree. My oldest son plays it and it's quite a lot of fun. The professional soccer leagues need to crack down on the faked injuries that make their sport such a joke, but soccer requires just as much skill as gridiron or baseball.
yeah. when I played soccer (I do actually think canada should go back to the term football) I wasn't allowed to play forward after a couple times up there. I broke a goalies arm when he tried to stop my shot on goal. as well as dislocating one persons shoulder when they tried to kick the ball at the same time as I did and they went cartwheeling over the ball. then I gave someone a concussion when they tried to get in the way of my shot on goal. the concussions and broken arm were both in the same game about 3 minutes apart. oh and to those of you thinking that soccer in a sport for pansies, I didn't even get a mention from the referee about this. all 3 were perfectly legal moves, it's just that people underestimated me. EDIT: oh ya, and I prefer soccer and hockey because they don't stop every 10 seconds for 30-40 seconds to plan their next move, and they are fairly major sports here in canada. |
Grammaticus DeVere
POS Builder Inc. Silent Requiem
7
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Posted - 2012.05.21 11:50:00 -
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Astenion wrote:Whatever you think about American football, baseball, or rugby, I'd still take any of them over soccer. What a dull sport. Weak, limp-wristed metrosexuals bouncing balls off their heads and crying when they break an eyelash.
What seems to be a recurring theme (at least with the UK) is that they love to go on and on about how weak American football is or how stupid baseball is when they've never even played either one. If you actually KNEW how rugby is played and how gridiron football is played and knew the stark differences between the two, you'd actually see that gridiron football is much, much more violent than rugby. Baseball takes much more skill than kicking a ball around the field as well. True, rugby is an endurance sport in which the players are basically playing full contact soccer but able to use their hands. However, there are no spears in the face with their heads, and the tackling is mostly arm tackling because they'd kill each other if they hit them head on. Hence, the pads in gridiron.
By the way, baseball is NOT a sport. It is a game, much like golf is a game and not a sport. I love baseball, but it is not a sport. Baseball is actually quite a relaxing activity, even if it's very competitive. It's great fun, but you have to be good at it and this is why most fans of soccer hate it because they can't play it. They suck at hand-eye coordination and just say, "Bah, it's like rounders!" No, it's not.
Think of gridiron football as a chess game...it's actually war hidden by jerseys and helmets. Every down is a different play, a different strategy. They stop in order to change strategies, not because they're tired. Take a middle linebacker and any rugby player, put them both in pads, and the linebacker will put the rugby player on the ground every time, do you know why? Because their bodies are being used in a different way. In gridiron, their bodies are used as a projectile and are meant to simply bludgeon them to death, whereas in rugby there's a little more finesse.
Bottom line, unless you've played all of them, STFU.
Yep, played both (even though I'm English), so I'm allowed to comment.
Bottom line is that football needs more skill than hand-egg; the foot-eye coordination needed to control a ball especially when running at speed when someone is trying to break your leg (in the nicest possible way of course), is a far greater skill than hand-eye coordination to catch a ball (whatever shape it is!).
As for baseball - simply the best summer bat/ball sport ever. Lets Go Mets!!
Edit -as for faked injuries, didn't a NY Jets player get fined by the NFL for a dramatic fall to the ground in order to kill the clock near the end of a game during the last season? |
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