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BlackDragonShadow
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.18 20:19:00 -
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Hooray |
rValdez5987
Amarr Imperial Guard.
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Posted - 2009.06.18 20:22:00 -
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space travel is necessary to continue rapid development of various necessary technologies.
I'm glad that our government and NASA agrees. |
ReaperOfSly
Gallente 3P1C F41L
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Posted - 2009.06.19 09:46:00 -
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And the only reason they're doing it is because they've started to realise they're losing their monopoly on space flight. Nothing like a bit of competition to shake oneself out of complacency, eh? |
Tallaran Kouros
Caldari Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.06.19 11:41:00 -
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For the last 40 years, anyone with the right equipment has been able to reflect laser beams off the mirrors that the Apollo astronauts placed there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_Experiment
I suppose the conspiracy theorists will argue that the mirrors were places there by robotic probes or some bull**** like that, but for some people there is just no arguing with them. |
Bestofworst
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.19 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros For the last 40 years, anyone with the right equipment has been able to reflect laser beams off the mirrors that the Apollo astronauts placed there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_Experiment
I suppose the conspiracy theorists will argue that the mirrors were places there by robotic probes or some bull**** like that, but for some people there is just no arguing with them.
Fix link and I never knew about the mirrors, got to try it sometime :D |
Vogue
The Burned Church
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Posted - 2009.06.19 12:04:00 -
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IMHO space travel and exploration is still very much limited by the fact anything that goes into space uses rockets that have a mass fraction of around 90% propellant.
Space elevators offer a theoretical way to lower the delivery cost of stuff into space from ú4000 - $4000 per kg, depending if its a sattelite delpoyment and how high an orbit. To possibly $220kg with a space elevator.
Space Elevator
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Bestofworst
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.19 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Vogue IMHO space travel and exploration is still very much limited by the fact anything that goes into space uses rockets that have a mass fraction of around 90% propellant.
Space elevators offer a theoretical way to lower the delivery cost of stuff into space from ú4000 - $4000 per kg, depending if its a sattelite delpoyment and how high an orbit. To possibly $220kg with a space elevator.
Space Elevator
I hate to say it, but I would feel more safer taking a rocket to the moon than an elevator |
Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.06.19 14:16:00 -
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I've never been to the moon, is it really there, who can say?
Delenda est achura. |
Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.06.19 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Vogue IMHO space travel and exploration is still very much limited by the fact anything that goes into space uses rockets that have a mass fraction of around 90% propellant.
Space elevators offer a theoretical way to lower the delivery cost of stuff into space from ú4000 - $4000 per kg, depending if its a sattelite delpoyment and how high an orbit. To possibly $220kg with a space elevator.
Space Elevator
Make it a magnetic counterweight while you're at it to attract all the debris out there and clean up space. What, active satellites being dragged in too, well guess they need to adapt...
Delenda est achura. |
Drunk Driver
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.06.19 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly And the only reason they're doing it is because they've started to realise they're losing their monopoly on space flight. Nothing like a bit of competition to shake oneself out of complacency, eh?
I at your post.
The U.S. has never had a monopoly on space flight. Saying that may make a few Russians angry.
The U.S. has not been complacent. See the following links to find out what they've been doing in space.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/
http://www.nasa.gov/
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BlackDragonShadow
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.19 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Vogue IMHO space travel and exploration is still very much limited by the fact anything that goes into space uses rockets that have a mass fraction of around 90% propellant.
Space elevators offer a theoretical way to lower the delivery cost of stuff into space from ú4000 - $4000 per kg, depending if its a sattelite delpoyment and how high an orbit. To possibly $220kg with a space elevator.
Space Elevator
Make it a magnetic counterweight while you're at it to attract all the debris out there and clean up space. What, active satellites being dragged in too, well guess they need to adapt...
That would not be a good idea. Most space debris travels at around 17500 miles an hour. ANYTHING that gets hit at that speed is going to be hurting. I mean the international space station has to move out of the way when paint chips fly past at that speed.
This sig was awesome but needs more EvE related content. - Mitnal
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Luna Sistere
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.06.19 18:42:00 -
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This thread disappoints. Here I was thinking that they were going to plan several launches and start putting in a modular biodome habitat on the sunny side of the moon allowing astronauts to spend more quality time there.
But instead we're just sending yet another probe into space so it gets a mediocre yay at best. |
Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.06.19 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Wendat Huron on 19/06/2009 19:25:24
Originally by: BlackDragonShadow
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Originally by: Vogue IMHO space travel and exploration is still very much limited by the fact anything that goes into space uses rockets that have a mass fraction of around 90% propellant.
Space elevators offer a theoretical way to lower the delivery cost of stuff into space from ú4000 - $4000 per kg, depending if its a sattelite delpoyment and how high an orbit. To possibly $220kg with a space elevator.
Space Elevator
Make it a magnetic counterweight while you're at it to attract all the debris out there and clean up space. What, active satellites being dragged in too, well guess they need to adapt...
That would not be a good idea. Most space debris travels at around 17500 miles an hour. ANYTHING that gets hit at that speed is going to be hurting. I mean the international space station has to move out of the way when paint chips fly past at that speed.
I know precious little physics but it was from my understanding that objects travelling at those speeds would not be pulled on top of the incoming magnet in rotation but rather get swept up and follow it as a tail. I'm sure there's then some way to control the pull of the magnet to have the debris attach itself to it at a managable velocity, coming up in the wake of the wreckingball, not in a frontal impact.
Delenda est achura. |
BlackDragonShadow
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.19 19:51:00 -
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Quote: I know precious little physics but it was from my understanding that objects travelling at those speeds would not be pulled on top of the incoming magnet in rotation but rather get swept up and follow it as a tail. I'm sure there's then some way to control the pull of the magnet to have the debris attach itself to it at a managable velocity, coming up in the wake of the wreckingball, not in a frontal impact.
Well the problem with that is that most debris that heads for an object of greater mass generally end up smashing into it. Very few of them actually end up in geosynchronous orbit. The problem being that it has to be trying to escape at the same velocity that the celestial object is pulling it towards. If you graphed this on a straight line it would stay in one place. Since it's in 3-d space it goes around in a circle. But it doesn't happen often. |
Sobach
Gallente Fourth Circle
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Posted - 2009.06.19 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: rValdez5987 space travel is necessary to continue rapid development of various necessary technologies.
I'm glad that our government and NASA agrees.
NASA agrees, but the government don't :/
they're slashing NASA's budget this year, reasoning being that the agency needs to "prove" that the money were well-spent first.
yea, because the billions we gave to the banks and and ppl like ACORN are money well-spent -_- |
BlackDragonShadow
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.19 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sobach
Originally by: rValdez5987 space travel is necessary to continue rapid development of various necessary technologies.
I'm glad that our government and NASA agrees.
NASA agrees, but the government don't :/
they're slashing NASA's budget this year, reasoning being that the agency needs to "prove" that the money were well-spent first.
yea, because the billions we gave to the banks and and ppl like ACORN are money well-spent -_-
That's such crap. Microwave technology wasn't money well spent at the time but we sure like our microwave popcorn now. Grrrrr
This sig was awesome but needs more EvE related content. - Mitnal
Fine. EVE Online |
Bruce Deorum
Minmatar Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.20 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tallaran Kouros For the last 40 years, anyone with the right equipment has been able to reflect laser beams off the mirrors that the Apollo astronauts placed there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_Experiment
I suppose the conspiracy theorists will argue that the mirrors were places there by robotic probes or some bull**** like that, but for some people there is just no arguing with them.
People who believe in such theories have these theories nailed into their head, and nothing can change that.
If you present them with 100 proofs/facts that rule out their conspiracy theory (either logic arguments, motive arguments, simply facts etc) they simply disregard them -just like that-, or they say that it is part of a bigger plan!, part of the conspiracy also, or they simply deny them as they dont mean anything... Complete paranoia.
However if there are 1-2 questions ananswered (classic case, most conspiracies main arguments are some ananswered questions ), questions that dont prove the conspiracy if answered, but simply they dont rule it out either, they stick to them and nothing i mean nothing can change their mind.
This goes for politics, religion, athletics all... |
Miss Spark
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.06.20 16:56:00 -
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They managed to fake it 40 years ago on "live" TV, I'm sure with todays technology they can FAKE pictures of landing sites :)
P.S. If they did fake it ;) This will prove nothing.
Not even seeing the landing sites myself on the moon would prove it to me, could of been made recently.
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MooKids
Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.06.21 02:42:00 -
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The moon landing was faked. It was a coverup for the massive military operation we conducted there to secure a strange metal with amazing properties. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |
Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.06.21 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Luna Sistere This thread disappoints. Here I was thinking that they were going to plan several launches and start putting in a modular biodome habitat on the sunny side of the moon allowing astronauts to spend more quality time there.
But instead we're just sending yet another probe into space so it gets a mediocre yay at best.
There really isn't a "sunny side" of the moon. Its called the "dark side" of the moon because the moon's spin is synchronized with its orbit around the earth so we never see that side. The moon gets sun all around its body, just like earth.
Now, if someone were to show me that there is a spot near the poles where sun never shines.. then I'd stand corrected.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente 3P1C F41L
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Posted - 2009.06.21 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Luna Sistere This thread disappoints. Here I was thinking that they were going to plan several launches and start putting in a modular biodome habitat on the sunny side of the moon allowing astronauts to spend more quality time there.
But instead we're just sending yet another probe into space so it gets a mediocre yay at best.
There really isn't a "sunny side" of the moon. Its called the "dark side" of the moon because the moon's spin is synchronized with its orbit around the earth so we never see that side. The moon gets sun all around its body, just like earth.
Now, if someone were to show me that there is a spot near the poles where sun never shines.. then I'd stand corrected.
I think there is actually. There's a crater on one of the poles, and the inside of this crater never gets sunlight. I might be wrong though. |
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