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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.19 04:24:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 19/06/2009 04:25:56
Downloading music you didn't pay for? RIAA has The Man on his side now with this precedent making case. An $80,000 fine for each song she downloaded so I'm betting that tard from metallica is a happy bastage now.
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Brolly
Caldari Caldari State Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.19 04:29:00 -
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That's painfully funny
Moral of the story, do not buy off big labels
Wonder how much the judge was paid off?. What the hell is the point of getting sued that much, they will never be able to pay it. |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.19 04:32:00 -
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For the precedent. Next on the list will be some high profile target with tens of thousands of illegal songs and the poor git probably doesn't even know he is in the crosshairs. |
Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.06.19 04:32:00 -
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Uhhh.
So in what justice system is being fined 80,000 times the amount lost "fair?" |
Luna Sistere
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Posted - 2009.06.19 04:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba I'm betting that tard from metallica is a happy bastage now.
I regret to having liked them in my younger days. They have turned into the biggest, whiniest sellouts in the history of music. Though their cd's do make great clay pigeons.
And yes, the fee is outrageous. |
Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2009.06.19 04:38:00 -
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Idiot jury and corrupt judge. God bless the lobby groups. |
Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.19 04:40:00 -
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The shame is its entirely ineffective at what they are trying to accomplish, and wrongfully punative for the woman who has become a victim of outdated corprate intrest.
Jin Nib, Trading on behalf of Opera Noir |
Bestofworst
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.19 04:46:00 -
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I'm gonna work as an assistant in a doctors office one day, and when a little kid takes more than one piece of candy I'm gonna shoot him in the leg, this is what this story is saying to me. How the hell is she gonna pay that? ---- My Music |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.19 04:53:00 -
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****ing hell that is insane
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.19 05:01:00 -
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I laughed my arse off when I first saw these years ago when lars was all emo in the media about Napster thinking 'nah will never happen' if there is even one jury member with a clue.
WTS clue.
Napster Bad!
Napster Bad! -Metallicops
Napster Bad! Metallica Millionaire |
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Krystal Vernet
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.06.19 05:13:00 -
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That's a bit ... excessive.
And it's ample evidence that corporations are destroying society. \o/
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2009.06.19 05:13:00 -
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I wish the same court would jail murderers for 500 years. uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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Brolly
Caldari Caldari State Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.19 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba I laughed my arse off when I first saw these years ago when lars was all emo in the media about Napster thinking 'nah will never happen' if there is even one jury member with a clue.
WTS clue.
Napster Bad!
Napster Bad! -Metallicops
Napster Bad! Metallica Millionaire
That's sad but true
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.19 05:32:00 -
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i bet they wont see a penny, no person would ever pay that off. course if they are smart they have sold all their property to other family members and decombined the bank accounts so the RIAA has nothing to get cash from.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.19 05:43:00 -
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Oh I don't see the fine amount holding through the inevitable appeal but thats not what the RIAA was after. Headlines are what they want and now the next case will get tossed up and probably finished well before the first one can even think about getting to an appeals court to reduce the fine to something reasonable. This will be something to follow though just to see how far RIAA can push it. |
Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.19 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker i bet they wont see a penny, no person would ever pay that off. course if they are smart they have sold all their property to other family members and decombined the bank accounts so the RIAA has nothing to get cash from.
It doesn't matter because the woman is still incuring among other costs, the cost of her defense. Which, no doubt is far and away a heftier price then the 24 songs she downed.
This may end up not being so good for the RIAA because it highlights the flaws of the current laws (I'm a poet!). Really the case should be in criminal court if she borke the laws, or in small claims court considering the amounts involved. |
Knopje
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Posted - 2009.06.19 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun Uhhh.
So in what justice system is being fined 80,000 times the amount lost "fair?"
In an extreme fascist oligarchy in which the government serves the interest of big corporations only.
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2009.06.19 09:17:00 -
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Did she do something stupid like admit she did it to the RIAA at some point?
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Vajak
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.19 09:28:00 -
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The US "justice system" is just completely ****ed up in favor of big corporations. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.06.19 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 19/06/2009 04:25:56
Downloading music you didn't pay for? RIAA has The Man on his side now with this precedent making case. An $80,000 fine for each song she downloaded so I'm betting that tard from metallica is a happy bastage now.
I wonder what percentage of that $2.9 mill would go to the artists (assuming that the defendant had that much to even pay)?
Would anyone care to speculate that it would be more than $000,000.00?
Next up: why people who download music are bad because then there is no incentive for artists to create music, but why music corporations who rip off artists with blatently dishonest contracts and fraudulent accounting are good because they keep the artists hungry and keen. |
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.06.19 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: dr doooo
Did she do something stupid like admit she did it to the RIAA at some point?
It's a woman, of course she caved. I demand to be tried as my peers, not by precedence gotten through intimidation of women.
Delenda est achura. |
ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.19 10:03:00 -
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ouch she got more that TPB
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente 3P1C F41L
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Posted - 2009.06.19 10:07:00 -
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RIAA are such a loathesome bunch. When are they going to finally realise they are not relevent any more and just crawl into a hole and die? ____________________
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Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.19 10:12:00 -
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Edited by: Jin Nib on 19/06/2009 10:12:39
Originally by: ReaperOfSly RIAA are such a loathesome bunch. When are they going to finally realise they are not relevent any more and just crawl into a hole and die?
When they cant afford to pay the bills anymore.
Edit-forums swallowed my post. |
Ratchman
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Posted - 2009.06.19 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: Ratchman on 19/06/2009 10:27:53 The trouble with such draconian punishments is that it may inadvertantly kill legitimate purchases. People not au fait with the technology will just abstain from it completely, fearful that anything like this new-fangled iTunes may leave them owing millions.
There are also other considerations. Say iTunes get embroiled in a copyright issue with certain bands. People would then start to worry that music they have downloaded and paid for would become regarded as pirated music, and again land them owing millions. The average person doesn't know much about the law, so they will simply refuse to use any online provider.
Physical media sales would be affected to a much lesser degree, but there will still be people who will be put off buying music just in case. It might not be rational, but there will be a percentage of people who will think this way.
The trouble with such astronomical sums is that it is counter-productive. Over-reactions always inspire hysteria and hatred, and this will be no exception. Either people will buy less music all round, or piracy will grow to a point where it cannot be stopped. Imagine, if you will, a record company trying to sue a whole country. If enough people do something, it cannot be stopped, no matter how illegal it is. Either of these scenarios will cost the music industry far more.
The correct procedure would have simply to take the woman to the small claims court, and claimed the cost of the music, plus a small fine. This kind of offence should be of the level of a speeding ticket. It should only ever be escalated if there is evidence of mass-production going on (which would bring it into the fraud arena). Industry always loses a percentage of profits to piracy, counterfeiting and plain stealing, but most industries accept this and carry on. Yes, they will prosecute if they catch someone, but they accept that they will lose a specific percentage.
Fining someone so much for so few songs is like catching someone speeding, taking all their money and property, banning the offender from driving for life and crushing their car.
Crime needs to be punished, but perhaps someone should look at that line in the constitution that says 'cruel and unusual'. |
Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.06.19 10:52:00 -
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Edited by: Blane Xero on 19/06/2009 10:53:19 Jesus ****ing Christ At Tesco's. I think this would be appropriate use of my Collective Facepalm demotivator tbh. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.19 11:44:00 -
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In honesty, I can't see why people even bother illegally downloading anyway. Music downloads are pennies these days.
Admittedly $1.9 million is ridiculously excessive. Even $80,000 for the entire issue would have been excessive.
The RIAA really need to get *****slapped for ridiculously overzealous fines. |
Bestofworst
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.19 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Reven Cordelle In honesty, I can't see why people even bother illegally downloading anyway. Music downloads are pennies these days.
Admittedly $1.9 million is ridiculously excessive. Even $80,000 for the entire issue would have been excessive.
The RIAA really need to get *****slapped for ridiculously overzealous fines.
3.99$ for a gallon of gas never really seemed like much until I figured out how many gallons it took to fill a tank ---- My Music |
ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.19 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ratchman Edited by: Ratchman on 19/06/2009 10:27:53 Imagine, if you will, a record company trying to sue a whole country. If enough people do something, it cannot be stopped, no matter how illegal it is. Either of these scenarios will cost the music industry far more.
i proudly to announce you that according to BayTSP Spain is numero 1 http://bayimg.com/IABeeaaCEPlease visit your user settings to enable images. Spain got a population of 42 millions
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2009.06.19 14:33:00 -
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I find it surprising that Canada is #10 considering our courts have all but refused to say whether p2p sharing is actually illegal under our laws. |
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Drunk Driver
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.06.19 14:41:00 -
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Edited by: Drunk Driver on 19/06/2009 14:43:33
Why didn't they just impale her on a pole in front of the court house?
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2009.06.19 14:50:00 -
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Problem is they tried her using laws for people that make copyright material available for purposes of turning a profit. Say someone opens an i-tunes clone and starts selling songs they don't have the rights to sell, thats when 100k+ per song might be reasonable.
Also, after more looking, the judge doesn't appear corrupt. He was the one that threw out the original case (which she lost) saying he made a mistake in the jury instructions, and wrote a letter complaining that the legislation allowed fines completely disproportionate to the damages (back when the total fine was $220k).
So, the jury's just a bunch of idiots that got swindled by the RIAAs well-paid legal team. In before Ralara. |
TimMc
Gallente Extradition
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Posted - 2009.06.19 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Brea Lafail I find it surprising that Canada is #10 considering our courts have all but refused to say whether p2p sharing is actually illegal under our laws.
More you suppress and ***** about something, the more popular it becomes. |
WhiteSavage
Gallente Altruism.
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Posted - 2009.06.19 16:50:00 -
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I'd suggest people start looking up new untracable ways of illegal downloading. A lot of new, good stuff out there... P2p and bittorent r things of the past.
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.19 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: WhiteSavage I'd suggest people start looking up new untracable ways of illegal downloading. A lot of new, good stuff out there... P2p and bittorent r things of the past.
yes the new torrent client called bitblinder seams to do that |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.06.19 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Drunk Driver Edited by: Drunk Driver on 19/06/2009 14:43:33
Why didn't they just impale her on a pole in front of the court house?
Cleaning bill.
Besides, they can use those 1.9 million dollar as if it were real money even though that woman will never be able to pay it back. |
Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.19 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Brea Lafail I find it surprising that Canada is #10 considering our courts have all but refused to say whether p2p sharing is actually illegal under our laws.
More you suppress and ***** about something, the more popular it becomes.
The point being, that in Canada they are not necessarily being supressed or *****ed about. The RIAA basicly managed to add a tax (they get payed some amount of cents for each blank cd/dvd) to blank copy materials like DVD's and CD's but that's about the extent of their damage here.
-Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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KingsGambit
Caldari Knights
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Posted - 2009.06.20 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Man we moved up a place from 6th to 5th but that's not a great show for us in the UK, I'm disappointed. I should apologise perhaps for not helping much here, but in my defense there wasn't very much worth downloading and what there was, I pinched from my brother I'll try to do better for 2009, being beaten by the french is just not right.
But in seriousness, what are the RIAA and that judge doing? Almost $2mill? What did she download anyway, anything good? While a small part of me feels for the music publishers, this kinda stuff makes it hard to have any sympathy for them. If it were me being told to pay that much, I think I'd have simply emptied out any money from my wallet (typically anywhere from ú5 up to ú25), laughed and walked out. |
Bestofworst
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.20 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit but in my defense
I see what you did there. ---- My Music |
Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2009.06.20 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit What did she download anyway, anything good?
No.
In before Ralara. |
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Bestofworst
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.20 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Brea Lafail
Originally by: KingsGambit What did she download anyway, anything good?
No.
Isn't there like a decade rule where copyright becomes void. Or isn't that after death of the last member of the band that played it. ---- My Music |
TimMc
Gallente Extradition
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Posted - 2009.06.20 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Bestofworst
Originally by: Brea Lafail
Originally by: KingsGambit What did she download anyway, anything good?
No.
Isn't there like a decade rule where copyright becomes void. Or isn't that after death of the last member of the band that played it.
Thats only for art I think, and apparently music is too formulated to be art anymore. |
Bestofworst
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.20 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Bestofworst
Originally by: Brea Lafail
Originally by: KingsGambit What did she download anyway, anything good?
No.
Isn't there like a decade rule where copyright becomes void. Or isn't that after death of the last member of the band that played it.
Thats only for art I think, and apparently music is too formulated to be art anymore.
Well I was told that after a decade or so that the copyright becomes voided, that's why you see Freebird and Stairway to heaven with a few million views on youtube and still no muting. |
Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2009.06.20 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Bestofworst Well I was told that after a decade or so that the copyright becomes voided, that's why you see Freebird and Stairway to heaven with a few million views on youtube and still no muting.
More like 70 years after the last artist's death, depending where you're from. The reason those videos haven't been taken down is that whoever owns the rights to the songs isn't being a **** about it. In before Ralara. |
VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2009.06.20 04:34:00 -
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Further proof that the biggest criminals wear a suit/sit behind a desk/have some type of title.
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Reiisha
Evolution KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.06.20 15:31:00 -
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If something can be copied infinitely it becomes inherently worthless.
As soon as the lawmakers realize this (by reason or force...) we can move on.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.06.20 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Drunk Driver Edited by: Drunk Driver on 19/06/2009 14:43:33
Why didn't they just impale her on a pole in front of the court house?
What is this, some kind of pirate revenge thread? |
Northern Fall
Minmatar Guild Academy Guild Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.20 15:44:00 -
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Now if only they applied the same to the obscene amounts of murderers, rapists and peadophiles walking around after not serving way enough time for their crimes. |
Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.20 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Northern Fall Now if only they applied the same to the obscene amounts of murderers, rapists and peadophiles walking around after not serving way enough time for their crimes.
except only Citizens and Police hate those, they however do not effect some fatcat record exec or some whiny rock star with 5 homes in Malibu and three Ferraris at each one.
downloading music they claim effects them and have bought their way via corrupt laws like the DMCA into a position where they sue for profit. |
Bodrul
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.06.20 22:38:00 -
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the problem with this crap is they say they lose millions of Potential revenue from these downloads
but in reality they wouldnt sell that much in the first place or not that many people would buy it in the first place.
UK goverment are *****s and like to keep these morons happy was nice even amusing and **** take coming from france when they gave the 2 finger salute to cutting peoples internet connections off without a order from a Judge.
and now they are trying to bring in a three strike in the UK
morons ... CCP sponsored Tournament win Conquests Board Game |
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Malande
Amarr Empyrean Holdings
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Posted - 2009.06.20 23:22:00 -
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This result unfortunatly isn't going to stop illegal file sharing at all, it's a ******ly high fee for someone who can't afford it (the woman in this case is a single mum so the main victim is going to be her kid). All it's going to do is speed up the move to more covert file sharing means, like limited access darknets.
Added to this there is no conclusive study that links file sharing to loss of revenue in the music industry, it's just corperate/personal greed taking over!
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.06.20 23:59:00 -
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I would love to know where they got the $80,000 per track thing from, being that they're worth 99p. At most they lost that 99p, but then really the idea of lost profits to piracy is silly: You can't lose what you didn't have in the first place
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.06.21 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina I would love to know where they got the $80,000 per track thing from, being that they're worth 99p. At most they lost that 99p, but then really the idea of lost profits to piracy is silly: You can't lose what you didn't have in the first place
They lost potential profit and somehow to anyone in a suit potential profit is worth more than actual profit. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2009.06.21 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Rawr Cristina I would love to know where they got the $80,000 per track thing from, being that they're worth 99p. At most they lost that 99p, but then really the idea of lost profits to piracy is silly: You can't lose what you didn't have in the first place
They lost potential profit and somehow to anyone in a suit potential profit is worth more than actual profit.
No, it's because they assumed, for some inane reason, that she was selling the songs for mega profits. Because, you know, people are willing to pay a random person as much as or more than they could pay iTunes for the same song.
Thus, since some soccer mom DL'd a few songs, she made tens of millions from selling them to her friends and can afford the fine.
These are the same sorts of people who think fining Madoff $4 million for stealing $50 BILLION makes sense.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
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Reiisha
Evolution KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.06.21 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Rawr Cristina I would love to know where they got the $80,000 per track thing from, being that they're worth 99p. At most they lost that 99p, but then really the idea of lost profits to piracy is silly: You can't lose what you didn't have in the first place
They lost potential profit and somehow to anyone in a suit potential profit is worth more than actual profit.
No, it's because they assumed, for some inane reason, that she was selling the songs for mega profits. Because, you know, people are willing to pay a random person as much as or more than they could pay iTunes for the same song.
Thus, since some soccer mom DL'd a few songs, she made tens of millions from selling them to her friends and can afford the fine.
These are the same sorts of people who think fining Madoff $4 million for stealing $50 BILLION makes sense.
This guy understands the problem.
"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
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Xevria
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Posted - 2009.06.21 14:10:00 -
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so we have loot crazy record company owners wanting $80.000 for a song, bank directors that are pillaging their banks for more then the goverments are pumping int it.
perhaps I should move to north korea, place is still crap, but at least its more honest then this capitalistic cespool.
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Brea Lafail
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Posted - 2009.06.21 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina I would love to know where they got the $80,000 per track thing from, being that they're worth 99p. At most they lost that 99p, but then really the idea of lost profits to piracy is silly: You can't lose what you didn't have in the first place
The jury was trying to "make an example" of her. In before Ralara. |
Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.21 16:59:00 -
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what i want to know is why does the government(s) care so much about stopping P2P "Piracy" but doesnt drop the hammer hard on the execs who nearly crashed the western economy. |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.06.21 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Brea Lafail The jury was trying to "make an example" of her.
Talk about "Jury Rigging". |
Krystal Vernet
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.06.21 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker what i want to know is why does the government(s) care so much about stopping P2P "Piracy" but doesnt drop the hammer hard on the execs who nearly crashed the western economy.
Pirates and citizens with common sense don't have influential lobbyists wooing elected government officials.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2009.06.21 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker what i want to know is why does the government(s) care so much about stopping P2P "Piracy" but doesnt drop the hammer hard on the execs who nearly crashed the western economy.
Because the government doesnt get a piece of that pie.
Welcome to the human race, everything is ran by greed. |
Glarion Garnier
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.06.22 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker what i want to know is why does the government(s) care so much about stopping P2P "Piracy" but doesnt drop the hammer hard on the execs who nearly crashed the western economy.
Because the gov. work for and represent the execs and their controllers. We were tought that in the sixth grade allready. |
Mikazuki Wakahisa
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Posted - 2009.06.22 06:06:00 -
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So, what would be my sentence for downloading about a hundred thousand dollars worth of Math and Physics texts?
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente 3P1C F41L
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Posted - 2009.06.22 08:54:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa So, what would be my sentence for downloading about a hundred thousand dollars worth of Math and Physics texts?
Death by hanging. |
Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.22 09:01:00 -
[65]
A jury of twelve really stupid people who are easily swayed by rich, fat-cat, slimy lawyers, who'll do anything but tell the truth, will sit in judgment of you. It's as American as a burrito.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.22 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa So, what would be my sentence for downloading about a hundred thousand dollars worth of Math and Physics texts?
Death by hanging.
Or a life sentence in a math or physics class taught by Ben Stein
Originally by: darkrei9n
Because Minmatar ships smell like garbage, Amarr ships smell like incense and that stuff, Caldari ships smell like a hospital, and Gallente ships smell like French people.
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Mikazuki Wakahisa
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Posted - 2009.06.22 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa So, what would be my sentence for downloading about a hundred thousand dollars worth of Math and Physics texts?
Death by hanging.
Or a life sentence in a math or physics class taught by Ben Stein
Oh god, OH GOD NO!!!
Kill me now please!
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Munchees
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Posted - 2009.06.22 13:51:00 -
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The RIAA is a bunch of lawyers on a power trip, and any self respecting musician should give them the finger and refuse to deal with them. |
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Posted - 2009.06.22 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Intense Thinker
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Mikazuki Wakahisa So, what would be my sentence for downloading about a hundred thousand dollars worth of Math and Physics texts?
Death by hanging.
Or a life sentence in a math or physics class taught by Ben Stein
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