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James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1708
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Posted - 2012.05.18 22:44:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:I am saying they are not there to save us, not an attack, a call realize we have to face this on our own. Every high sec dweller needs to realize there are no magic game mechanics that can change the nature of Eve so don't expect them from CCP or the CSM. Why would anyone in your corp assume that CCP or CSM would be interested in saving a lowsec POS?
Moreover, your e-mail claimed that CSM was "literally" attacking you. In what way is the CSM attacking your corp, and why are you trying to convince your corp that the CSM is their enemy?
This whole thing smells fishy. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
760
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Posted - 2012.05.18 22:44:00 -
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Fuujin wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:
Those POSs have paid for themselves 10X over and in fact long since depreciated to 0 based on what we expected from the. We left them in place making isks for weeks before that were scattered. We met and decided consciously to leave them in place knowing that they would be destroyed eventually.
Eve is about risk/reward and we played that very very well in the case of those POSs.
As for the rest of it, goon opinions are the least relevant.
Issler
"Didn't want those POS anyway" The good old "didn't want those XXYY ANYWAY. HAHA DIDN'T WANT IT LALALALALA ~~~" defense.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
760
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Posted - 2012.05.18 22:45:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I am saying they are not there to save us, not an attack, a call realize we have to face this on our own. Every high sec dweller needs to realize there are no magic game mechanics that can change the nature of Eve so don't expect them from CCP or the CSM. Why would anyone in your corp assume that CCP or CSM would be interested in saving a lowsec POS? Moreover, your e-mail claimed that CSM was "literally" attacking you. In what way is the CSM attacking your corp, and why are you trying to convince your corp that the CSM is their enemy? This whole thing smells fishy. It's is, by now, this close to being an actual fish.
What about a Merlin ? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Nymblar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2012.05.18 22:47:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote: Those POSs have paid for themselves 10X over and in fact long since depreciated to 0 based on what we expected from the. We left them in place making isks for weeks before that were scattered. We met and decided consciously to leave them in place knowing that they would be destroyed eventually.
We're at the "You're not killing us fast enough" stage already? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
761
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Posted - 2012.05.18 22:48:00 -
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Nymblar wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: Those POSs have paid for themselves 10X over and in fact long since depreciated to 0 based on what we expected from the. We left them in place making isks for weeks before that were scattered. We met and decided consciously to leave them in place knowing that they would be destroyed eventually.
We're at the "You're not killing us fast enough" stage already? Man, next time we need to get those POSes BEFORE it depreciates to 0.
Stuff doesn't depreciate in EVE you know... that POS can be used just as good as a new one - if it hadn't been blown up by dreadnaughts. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
84
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Posted - 2012.05.18 22:49:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:
Basically we are at war with the goons and the point no one is coming to help us. We have to stand on our own.
Issler
You run a crappy alliance/group that no one respects because it's you, Issler, running the whole game there. You have nothing to provide unlike most large null-sec organizations do towards each other. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
761
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Posted - 2012.05.18 22:51:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:
Basically we are at war with the goons and the point no one is coming to help us. We have to stand on our own.
Issler
You run a crappy alliance/group that no one respects because it's you, Issler, running the whole game there. You have nothing to provide unlike most large null-sec organizations do towards each other. I'll join you! My awoxer mining alt will join the cause! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2050
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Posted - 2012.05.18 22:51:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I am saying they are not there to save us, not an attack, a call realize we have to face this on our own. Every high sec dweller needs to realize there are no magic game mechanics that can change the nature of Eve so don't expect them from CCP or the CSM. Why would anyone in your corp assume that CCP or CSM would be interested in saving a lowsec POS? Moreover, your e-mail claimed that CSM was "literally" attacking you. In what way is the CSM attacking your corp, and why are you trying to convince your corp that the CSM is their enemy? This whole thing smells fishy.
My point was in case any of our members thought my position in the CSM would have any affect on what other CSM did they needed to know that all the CSM keep their CSM and Eve lives separate.
No one in the CSM is going to take into account that I am in the CSM with them when they think about how they choose to play Eve.
For some folks that might not have been obvious and I wanted it clear to BEEP not to expect any favors.
Issler |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
84
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Posted - 2012.05.18 22:52:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:James 315 wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I am saying they are not there to save us, not an attack, a call realize we have to face this on our own. Every high sec dweller needs to realize there are no magic game mechanics that can change the nature of Eve so don't expect them from CCP or the CSM. Why would anyone in your corp assume that CCP or CSM would be interested in saving a lowsec POS? Moreover, your e-mail claimed that CSM was "literally" attacking you. In what way is the CSM attacking your corp, and why are you trying to convince your corp that the CSM is their enemy? This whole thing smells fishy. My point was in case any of our members thought my position in the CSM would have any affect on what other CSM did they needed to know that all the CSM keep their CSM and Eve lives separate. No one in the CSM is going to take into account that I am in the CSM with them when they think about how they choose to play Eve. For some folks that might not have been obvious and I wanted it clear to BEEP not to expect any favors. Issler Your point is also the same for any other CSM member ie Mittani & GoonSwarm Federation. So what was your point again? What makes you so unique in this other than you're Issler, a terrible Eve player.
Karadion Kohlar |
Renn Aldard
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:01:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Renn Aldard wrote:Issler tears are best tears. Fixed for you. Delicious. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
761
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:02:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Your point is also the same for any other CSM member ie Mittani & GoonSwarm Federation. So what was your point again? What makes you so unique in this other than you're Issler, a terrible Eve player.
Karadion Kohlar Actually, there are many terrible EVE players. Like us.
~Ala Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
525
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:02:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Nymblar wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: Those POSs have paid for themselves 10X over and in fact long since depreciated to 0 based on what we expected from the. We left them in place making isks for weeks before that were scattered. We met and decided consciously to leave them in place knowing that they would be destroyed eventually.
We're at the "You're not killing us fast enough" stage already? Man, next time we need to get those POSes BEFORE it depreciates to 0. Stuff doesn't depreciate in EVE you know... that POS can be used just as good as a new one - if it hadn't been blown up by dreadnaughts.
That was how they depreciated to 0. WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:03:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:James 315 wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I am saying they are not there to save us, not an attack, a call realize we have to face this on our own. Every high sec dweller needs to realize there are no magic game mechanics that can change the nature of Eve so don't expect them from CCP or the CSM. Why would anyone in your corp assume that CCP or CSM would be interested in saving a lowsec POS? Moreover, your e-mail claimed that CSM was "literally" attacking you. In what way is the CSM attacking your corp, and why are you trying to convince your corp that the CSM is their enemy? This whole thing smells fishy. My point was in case any of our members thought my position in the CSM would have any affect on what other CSM did they needed to know that all the CSM keep their CSM and Eve lives separate. No one in the CSM is going to take into account that I am in the CSM with them when they think about how they choose to play Eve. For some folks that might not have been obvious and I wanted it clear to BEEP not to expect any favors. Issler It would be one thing if you actually had the courage to stand behind what you'd said. Not as good as if you had the ability to recognize your grevious error and apologize properly, of course. But it would have been a form of courage.
This, however, is simply embarassing. No reasonable person - indeed, not even most unreasonable people - will believe this was actually what you meant when you claimed the CSM was "literally" attacking you. To try and claim the courage of standing by what you said, while transparently trying to rewrite it s really the worst of all worlds. It convinces no one and makes it clear you are not willing to stand behind what you say when it is subjected to the harsh light of public scrutiny. |
James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1711
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:05:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:My point was in case any of our members thought my position in the CSM would have any affect on what other CSM did they needed to know that all the CSM keep their CSM and Eve lives separate.
No one in the CSM is going to take into account that I am in the CSM with them when they think about how they choose to play Eve.
For some folks that might not have been obvious and I wanted it clear to BEEP not to expect any favors. Issler, I'm trying to trust in the honesty of your explanation, but your answers are making it more and more difficult. In your evemail, you said the CSM was "literally" attacking you. I asked for an explanation for this, but you didn't provide one. In fact, your latest response seems to contradict it entirely:
"No one in the CSM is going to take into account that I am in the CSM with them when they think about how they choose to play Eve."
If that's true, then the CSM is not attacking you, correct? So why were you telling your corp that the CSM was attacking them?
A prompt, clear, and honest response to these questions would be appreciated. |
Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
3
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:05:00 -
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Damn I wish I could post with my main and give this thread the proper love it deserves.
But yeah, them some sweet, sweet tears, Issler. You are a wonderful role model to all our young carebears, teaching them to blame others with the internal mails you send out.
Glad we like to recruit our people young, before you have a chance to pollute them with your lack of responsibility. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
526
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:05:00 -
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How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member? WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1494
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:07:00 -
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Big ******* deal.
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Feelsgood Man
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:08:00 -
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Serge Bastana wrote:How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member?
I'm not sure you can otherwise Darius III wouldn't have made it to the end of the CSM6 term. |
knulla
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:08:00 -
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All this hoopla over killing carebears in lowsec and you don't even do the shooting yourself?
eve needs a real war soon or I fear the worst has yet to come!! |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:08:00 -
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Serge Bastana wrote:How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member? You can't. Only by being outvoted by the next election. Hopefully GoonSwarm will run 4 candidates or so next time and keep off morons from the CSM like Issler and Darius III, both useless CSM members but they don't get free trips to Iceland anyways. |
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Large Collidable Object
morons.
1458
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:09:00 -
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Issler Dainze is either a complete idiot or the best troll ever (I think it's the latter, because noone can possibly be that dumb). You know... morons. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
383
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:09:00 -
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Doesn't this sort of puerile garbage belong in the toilet known as CAOD?
Mods, please move. In irae, veritas. |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:09:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Big ******* deal.
Joe Biden: This is a bigfucking deal. |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:09:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:Issler Dainze is either a complete idiot or the best troll ever. The latter is not possible. |
Renn Aldard
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:09:00 -
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Feelsgood Man wrote:Serge Bastana wrote:How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member? I'm not sure you can otherwise Darius III wouldn't have made it to the end of the CSM6 term.
Mittani did it |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
372
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:10:00 -
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Even when we don't actually do anything we're still responsible for destroying Eve.
:smug: Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
761
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:10:00 -
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Serge Bastana wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Man, next time we need to get those POSes BEFORE it depreciates to 0.
Stuff doesn't depreciate in EVE you know... that POS can be used just as good as a new one - if it hadn't been blown up by dreadnaughts. That was how they depreciated to 0. Heh. Goons, keeping your capital depreciating since ... when did we start shooting things?
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:11:00 -
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Renn Aldard wrote:Feelsgood Man wrote:Serge Bastana wrote:How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member? I'm not sure you can otherwise Darius III wouldn't have made it to the end of the CSM6 term. Mittani did it Not voluntarily. Darius's incompetence is voluntarily on the other hand. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
761
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:12:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Even when we don't actually do anything we're still responsible for destroying Eve.
:smug: ALL the :smug:s
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Renn Aldard
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:15:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Renn Aldard wrote:Feelsgood Man wrote:Serge Bastana wrote:How do you carry out a vote of no confidence on a CSM member? I'm not sure you can otherwise Darius III wouldn't have made it to the end of the CSM6 term. Mittani did it Not voluntarily. Darius' incompetence is voluntarily on the other hand. Oh wait, doing it voluntarily means you are aware of your actions. So Darius' incompetence isn't voluntarily therefore will always be a terrible CSM. But which one is still on the CSM? |
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