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Serge Bastana
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
527
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:15:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Serge Bastana wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Man, next time we need to get those POSes BEFORE it depreciates to 0.
Stuff doesn't depreciate in EVE you know... that POS can be used just as good as a new one - if it hadn't been blown up by dreadnaughts. That was how they depreciated to 0. Heh. Goons, keeping your capital depreciating since ... when did we start shooting things?
Dunno, what time is it now? WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us
122
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:17:00 -
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Even for goon (ship)posting, you are trying way, way too hard. I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1922
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:18:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:I stand stand by it all.
Basically we are at war with the goons and the point no one is coming to help us. We have to stand on our own.
CCP won't save is, CSM won't save us, this is Eve. I'm not attacking CCP or CSM, I am saying they aren't in Eve to "save" us. That is the point of this message to my alliance, we need to not roll over and die. This message could go out to any other high sec corp or player that feels that they are under the boot heel of oppression in Eve.
So feel free to take it any way you want. But the fact is, the population of high sec that feels that they are the unfair targets of a certain group of players must rise to face the challenge. There is no help coming. We face this challenge alone.
Practically boilerplate for most cries to rally together during hard times and impossible odds.
Issler
The above text, highlighting the pertinent parts, does not equal the below text.
Quote:To give you an idea of how screwed up this is in the context of Eve, the allinace hired was Pandemic Legion, what is where the head of the CSM lives,so we are littlerally being attacked by the CSM.Basically Eve is beyond broken.CCP is actually totally supportive of goons and ganking, they think of it as player content. They encourage and support hulkagedon! They actually laugh about miner tears. Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.
I'm sorry Issler, but you quite clearly spell out that you believe EVE is beyond broken and that the CSM is directly attacking you through the corps/alliances those representatives hail from, with the insinuation it is because of your stance on CSM related issues.
Then you go further asking players to join together as they did against CCP's after the NEX was introduced, which involved protests and mass unsubscription.
You may not have meant it to come across that way, which is a bit of a stretch considering how clearly it is written, but either way this is possibly the most irresponsible action I have seen a CSM delegate take so far.
I have nothing against you in any way, and support at least the general concept behind some of the things you have spoken out for, but this is most disappointing.
I would suggest you get your head on straight about how you make public statements about the CSM if you wish to remain a member of them for your full term. Being outspoken, even critical, is fine... but outright unsubstantiated accusations of persecution and statements that EVE is "beyond broken" shows that your head is not in the right place to be a positive force in the development of the game.
Your conduct is bordering on becoming worse than what you have so frequently accused others (including the Mittani) of, namely using your position on the CSM to manipulate people and events to your personal advantage in game.
I won't stand for it from any of the other delegates, and after all of your preaching about it I certainly won't stand for it from you. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
384
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:20:00 -
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Renn Aldard wrote:But which one is still on the CSM?
what a tryhard eh |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
761
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:22:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Then you go further asking players to join together as they did against CCP's after the NEX was introduced, which involved protests and mass unsubscription.
You may not have meant it to come across that way, which is a bit of a stretch considering how clearly it is written, but either way this is possibly the most irresponsible action I have seen a CSM delegate take so far. Tsk tsk.
This player generated content isn't like pants in station at all.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
761
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:22:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Renn Aldard wrote:But which one is still on the CSM? what a tryhard Issler is too, and look at this thread. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Renn Aldard
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:23:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Renn Aldard wrote:But which one is still on the CSM? what a tryhard
I just find it enjoyable that, despite all the incompetence by the other participants, your guy was the one booted. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
384
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:24:00 -
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Renn Aldard wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Renn Aldard wrote:But which one is still on the CSM? what a tryhard I just find it enjoyable that, despite all the incompetence by the other participants, your guy was the one booted.
and the CSM rendered irrelevant lol eh |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1924
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:26:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Then you go further asking players to join together as they did against CCP's after the NEX was introduced, which involved protests and mass unsubscription.
You may not have meant it to come across that way, which is a bit of a stretch considering how clearly it is written, but either way this is possibly the most irresponsible action I have seen a CSM delegate take so far. Tsk tsk. This player generated content isn't like pants in station at all.
Indeed. It was a perfectly legitimate attack against POS's in Low Sec.
There is nothing here that is even remotely controversial or indicative of any sort of vendetta, let alone proof of EVE being "Beyond broken".
It begs the question, if CSM votes don't go your way are you going to call for mass protests and unsubscriptions then as well?
To put it bluntly, you are there to promote game balance. That means for the good guys and the bad guys, the high sec dwellers and the Low or Null sec dwellers... to make your priority the health of the game as a whole, and that is certainly not evident in the statement you made. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Renn Aldard
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:27:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Renn Aldard wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Renn Aldard wrote:But which one is still on the CSM? what a tryhard I just find it enjoyable that, despite all the incompetence by the other participants, your guy was the one booted. and the CSM rendered irrelevant lol Nope, just your votes. |
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Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
4
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:29:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:This player generated content isn't like pants in station at all.
Speaking of failed CSM candidates, where is my droppink de panteez butan? |
Akiyo XI
Fly Drunk
11
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:30:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote: Basically we are at war with the goons and the point no one is coming to help us. We have to stand on our own.
are you not an influential member of the CSM?
apparently many residents of hisec agree with your cause
Call and they will listen
you could finally become the catalyst of this war that hisec oh so desperately wants. "The wise speak only of what they know" |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
384
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:31:00 -
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Renn Aldard wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Renn Aldard wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:Renn Aldard wrote:But which one is still on the CSM? what a tryhard I just find it enjoyable that, despite all the incompetence by the other participants, your guy was the one booted. and the CSM rendered irrelevant lol Nope, just your votes.
npc alt voices are not considered anywhere so vOv eh |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1924
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:32:00 -
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Akiyo XI wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: Basically we are at war with the goons and the point no one is coming to help us. We have to stand on our own.
are you not an influential member of the CSM? apparently many residents of hisec agree with your cause Call and they will listen you could finally become the catalyst of this war that hisec oh so desperately wants.
Apparently his/her POS's are better defended by using his/her position on the CSM to call for a mass protest. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
762
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:33:00 -
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Dawn Flare wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:This player generated content isn't like pants in station at all.
Speaking of failed CSM candidates, where is my droppink de panteez butan? I can't wait to see the EN24 coverage of this "CSM literally attacking" event. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1152
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:34:00 -
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this is the same CSM who thinks all combat should be in space instead of gates and stations?
really, this person is cluless and shows just how useless the csm is in general
Abolish it The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Malak Dawnfire
27th Gallentean Fleet
46
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:35:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Dawn Flare wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:This player generated content isn't like pants in station at all.
Speaking of failed CSM candidates, where is my droppink de panteez butan? I can't wait to see the EN24 coverage of this "CSM literally attacking" event.
I could draw a picture in MS paint to hold you over until then? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:35:00 -
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Akiyo XI wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: Basically we are at war with the goons and the point no one is coming to help us. We have to stand on our own.
are you not an influential member of the CSM? apparently many residents of hisec agree with your cause Call and they will listen you could finally become the catalyst of this war that hisec oh so desperately wants. The special snowflake that you are, YOU can finally rise up and fight the goons !
Start, like so many before you, by making an appropriately titled thread right here on the EVEO GD forum. Something like "Burn VFK" "Fight the goons" and even "Why all goons should be banned".
Bonus points for "CSM literally attacking, level 5 CTA, login and get in fleet NAO" Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
4
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:37:00 -
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Malak Dawnfire wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Dawn Flare wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:This player generated content isn't like pants in station at all.
Speaking of failed CSM candidates, where is my droppink de panteez butan? I can't wait to see the EN24 coverage of this "CSM literally attacking" event. I could draw a picture in MS paint to hold you over until then? I think your MS Paint will be WAY better.
/me is waiting. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
386
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:37:00 -
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Morganta wrote:this is the same CSM who thinks all combat should be in space instead of gates and stations?
really, this person is cluless and shows just how useless the csm is in general
Abolish it
gates and stations are not in space! eh |
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Renn Aldard
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:37:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:npc alt voices are not considered anywhere so vOv
This is my main. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
765
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:38:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Morganta wrote:this is the same CSM who thinks all combat should be in space instead of gates and stations?
really, this person is cluless and shows just how useless the csm is in general
Abolish it gates and stations are not in space! Those POSes and the dreadnaughts were also in space... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Arsedestroyer
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:38:00 -
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Permaban Issler. |
Shobon Welp
Band of Brothers
27
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:39:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Then you go further asking players to join together as they did against CCP's after the NEX was introduced, which involved protests and mass unsubscription. I, for one consider it highly inappropriate for a CSM delegate to talk about encouraging mass unsubscriptions, an action which would result in substantial damage to CCP's finances and threaten the jobs of hardworking CCP employees. For Issler to do so over having her POSs blown up in lowsec in a teenage temper tantrum speaks volumes about her character and suitability to serve as CSM. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1929
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:39:00 -
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I'm going to stifle being irritated over this, so sorry for being a bit sharp previously.
Just... remember you are in the spot light now (as others have been before you), and you need to learn the same hard lessons those others have learned.
Think before you make public, or even private, speeches where you allow emotion to overwhelm your common sense. Don't make unfounded accusations, and don't make calls for action that do much more to harm the game than good.
You are now under a microscope, whether any of us like it or not, and the players of EVE will now be watching very closely what you say AND what you do.
Engage your brain and act responsibly from now on. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Patrick Estemaire
EVE University Ivy League
17
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:42:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Quote: They Cannot Win!! From: Issler Dainze Sent: 2012.05.17 06:57 To: The Honda Accord,
So coward blimp ego mittens hired similar coward to destroy our POSs in Illamur. To give you an idea of how screwed up this is in the context of Eve, the allinace hired was Pandemic Legion, what is where the head of the CSM lives, so we are littlerally being attacked by the CSM. Basically Eve is beyond broken. CCP is actually totally supportive of goons and ganking, they think of it as player content. They encourage and support hulkagedon! They actually laugh about miner tears. Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.
So what does BEEP become during the occupation? First, we hunt these bastards! They don't take us seriously! We have ships, guns and motivation. Goons in high sec are a joke! We make that clear to them.
We help drive the tide to take Eve back.
More about that soon, but players like us are the majority and we are fed up!! Let's take out game back!! Time for the bullies to have some of that sand that always like to talk about to be kicked in their face!
So let me know what you think, where is the future for us?
Issler
Well I feel bad for those that voted for Issler because whatever pull that seat might have had to accomplish things with CCP, or even the CSM, is gone now.
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Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
4
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:44:00 -
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Renn Aldard wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:npc alt voices are not considered anywhere so vOv This is my main. I'm so sorry for you. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
767
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:49:00 -
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Dawn Flare wrote:Renn Aldard wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:npc alt voices are not considered anywhere so vOv This is my main. I'm so sorry for you. Don't worry, he can't be wardecced, it's safe. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
5
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:51:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Dawn Flare wrote:Renn Aldard wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:npc alt voices are not considered anywhere so vOv This is my main. I'm so sorry for you. Don't worry, he can't be wardecced, it's safe. This made my lol irl hard enough to wake up my wife, dam you. |
Shian Yang
157
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Posted - 2012.05.18 23:55:00 -
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Greetings capsuleers,
I dislike politicians. Those who use weasel words, insinuation and double standards to campaign, politic and generally cling to power no matter how ineffectual they are. And I have a particular loathing for this Issler Dainze, a politician's politician if I've ever seen one.
New Eden should band together and hunt them down, destroy their ships, their fleets, their stations. The shrapnel of their pods should be recycled into auto cannon ammunition. Burn them out of New Eden until they hide, cowering, on some dusty planet in the middle of the vast void.
Then we release slaver hounds on them.
Regards,
Shian Yang |
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