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Elissa
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Posted - 2009.06.25 09:00:00 -
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I was in a L4 mission today and this dude in a probe zips in and starts salvaging all my wrecks. To my amazement, that apparently is not "stealing". Hmmm??? If it weren't for MY missiles, those wrecks would not be there... what gives... that is total BS. Since I am in 0.5 high-sec; I of course have ZERO recourse since Concord will swoop in and destroy me for killing a thief. And, of course the thief would then loot me too.
That's BS! |
Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.06.25 09:03:00 -
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Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.
This needs discussing as it has never been discussed before. |
Sylar Darkayen
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Posted - 2009.06.25 09:03:00 -
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-10/10.
Go away troll :( |
Reven Cordelle
Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.25 09:09:00 -
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Ugh, its got to the point now where these threads can't NOT be a troll.
Find some new material for christ's sake.
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Elissa
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Posted - 2009.06.25 09:19:00 -
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Oh I'm sorry. Perhaps I should have read through the 2,056,345 posts on this board first.
So sorry that I have been away from the game for a year. This is probably the first time I have used these forums in years. But of course the replies are as quirky and rude as possible.
Bet your a wonderful person irl.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.06.25 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: Elissa Oh I'm sorry. Perhaps I should have read through the 2,056,345 posts on this board first.
So sorry that I have been away from the game for a year. This is probably the first time I have used these forums in years. But of course the replies are as quirky and rude as possible.
Bet your a wonderful person irl.
Oh, he is.
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aka Ishur
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2009.06.25 09:57:00 -
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****IN THE RARE EVENT THAT THE OP IS NOT A TROLL****
OP: When posting on the forums there are a few steps you need to consider before posting in order to avoid being called a troll. (Doesn't stop you being flamed though for stupid ideas)
1) Consider the topic - does it concern a method of playing that others may have done before. (missioning in your case) - if yes consult evesearch before posting.
2) Decide whether you want to troll.
If you skip step 1 people assume you have answered yes to step 2. Simple.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.06.25 10:00:00 -
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The wrecks are yours, the salvage isn't. Therefore, salvaging them isn't stealing.
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Kalintos Tyl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.25 10:10:00 -
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looting conteiners werent followed by agro mechanics, carebeass whined about it. CCP chaneg it, then careabers whined about being can baiter and poped. Here we go again with salvage ?:D
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ISHKUR MASTER
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.25 10:16:00 -
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**Troll**
The wrecks are not yours.
If I blow up, whose wreck is my wreck, the killers or mine, the obvious, It's still mine.
The wrecks in the mission, still belong to the pilot you killed.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.06.25 10:26:00 -
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Edited by: Malcanis on 25/06/2009 10:36:04 Does anyone have that CCP Prism post bookmarked?
nm here it is.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.06.25 10:36:00 -
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Again, for the cheap seats at the back.
This system is what the carebears whined and whined and whined at CCP for weeks for. Previously you could not salvage a wreck that contained items, this forced you to steal the contents before you could salvage. This lead to a lot of dead carebears in asteroid belts.
This lead to weeks of crying on the forum. This lead to being able to salvage wrecks that are full.
This lead to more carebears crying because people were salvaging their wrecks.
I think there is a common theme here. Whatever CCP do, carebears will cry. |
Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.06.25 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Edited by: Malcanis on 25/06/2009 10:36:04 Does anyone have that CCP Prism post bookmarked?
nm here it is.
I do now.
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NeoTheo
Dark Materials Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.06.25 10:52:00 -
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Edited by: NeoTheo on 25/06/2009 10:53:24
Originally by: Elissa Oh I'm sorry. Perhaps I should have read through the 2,056,345 posts on this board first.
So sorry that I have been away from the game for a year. This is probably the first time I have used these forums in years. But of course the replies are as quirky and rude as possible.
Bet your a wonderful person irl.
Salvage is for anyone, as soon as he takes stuff out of the can however you are able to shoot him.
so, they can have your salvage, but not your lewt, simple really.
Originally by: Kalintos Tyl looting conteiners werent followed by agro mechanics, carebeass whined about it. CCP chaneg it, then careabers whined about being can baiter and poped. Here we go again with salvage ?:D
personally i say give the whiners exactly what they want, let then get agro when i steal. let them shoot me. watch them cry as i bbq there double expensive CNR fits.
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.06.25 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Elissa Oh I'm sorry. Perhaps I should have read through the 2,056,345 posts on this board first.
So sorry that I have been away from the game for a year. This is probably the first time I have used these forums in years. But of course the replies are as quirky and rude as possible.
Bet your a wonderful person irl.
Intigo is wonderful person.
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Some Advisor
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Posted - 2009.06.25 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: Some Advisor on 25/06/2009 11:04:31 default answer: salvager faster/bring buddy and/or do it in lowsec no issues, no salvage is free for all, contents of loot is against the law and can be punished by a flagged target
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edit, just for you: ppl shoudl read forums more... so much of informations
but then there would be less "whines" to have fun with when "sudden changes" happen (do you also dont read patchnotes either? i know they can be quite long, but so is the downtime when applying big patches so.... :P )
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Oro Masut
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.06.25 11:06:00 -
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Well, salvage on the fly, leave the cans...when he loots 'em, pop him :-)
WCS gimps your fighting abilty. Make your choice BEFORE you undock. Do not complain about a lost ship ever, if you fit for running and go fighting with it |
Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.06.25 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Elissa Oh I'm sorry. Perhaps I should have read through the 2,056,345 posts on this board first.
No but you should have read through all the previous patch notes that explain whats changed since you left, or would that be too obvious? |
Lady Aja
Caldari Eradication Project
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Posted - 2009.06.25 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Elissa Oh I'm sorry. So sorry that I have been away from the game for a year.
take that one year multiply by ten and do it now. |
Southern Suzy
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.06.25 12:02:00 -
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Bought char? Ebayed account?
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Connner
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.25 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Elissa Oh I'm sorry. Perhaps I should have read through the 2,056,345 posts on this board first.
So sorry that I have been away from the game for a year. This is probably the first time I have used these forums in years. But of course the replies are as quirky and rude as possible.
Bet your a wonderful person irl.
Ok, for a nice polite answer. Consider wrecks as garbage not loot. Now, one person's garbage is another mans gold, but its still garbage. Thus, the space garbage is not 'owned' by anyone. The loot drop is yours, but the garbage surrounding it is anyones. |
Spurty
Caldari Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.06.25 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Oro Masut Well, salvage on the fly, leave the cans...when he loots 'em, pop him :-)
don't forget to dock up for 20mins after, so he doesn't have rights to dock his pod up, jump into pvp ship, fly back to the bookmark he made of your mission and pop your ratting ship.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.06.25 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: Wendat Huron on 25/06/2009 15:02:16
He's a scavenger, him taking the time to salvage your refuse while you rake in the money on lvl4s is him make a **** income by comparison. Don't get angry, take pity on the poor man and his wasted time. |
Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.06.25 15:12:00 -
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It's pretty easy to make 20m + an hour from salvaging tbh |
Discrodia
Gallente Blood Red Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.25 15:15:00 -
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Oh poor baby. Tell me where you mission and I'll help you out with your problem. The fee is all your salvage |
Ana Vyr
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Posted - 2009.06.25 15:25:00 -
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Why doesn't ninja salvaging break the risk vs reward equation everybody loves to tout in this forum?
Ninja salvaging in high sec is risk free as long as the salvager does not steal from any cans. The income from this activity is quite good as has been pointed out.
Both missions and mining carry risks in high sec in the form of NPC rats(however small the risks may be perceived).
I wonder if rats should randomly spawn when salvaging occurs that automatically target the salvager ship? The justification is the same as the missisoners...the wrecks are "ours". Sure such a threat is negligable (unless you are in a salvage fit with no weapons).
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.25 15:31:00 -
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didnt op know that the aggro mechanics are broken
he wont flash but concord Wont shoot you if you shoot him
those wrecks are yours :)
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Some Advisor
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Posted - 2009.06.25 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ana Vyr Why doesn't ninja salvaging break the risk vs reward equation everybody loves to tout in this forum?
Ninja salvaging in high sec is risk free as long as the salvager does not steal from any cans. The income from this activity is quite good as has been pointed out.
wait a sec... why does it break risk vs reward? the OP is doing LESS risk becuse hes doing mission in high sec.. so his reward is less (less salvage on occasions)
:P
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Traidor Disloyal
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.06.25 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Elissa Bet your a wonderful person irl.
We're all nice people until this one person comes in, one who thinks it is beneath them to actually take time to read the forums, and asks a question that has been asked many many many many many times before.
I got a dead horse and a stick I can sell you, cheap. I hope you posted with your main cause I am going to find out where you mission run and salvage your missions. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it. |
Chelone
The Rising Knights
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Posted - 2009.06.25 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tiny Tove This system is what the carebears whined and whined and whined at CCP for weeks for. Previously you could not salvage a wreck that contained items, this forced you to steal the contents before you could salvage. This lead to a lot of dead carebears in asteroid belts.
This lead to weeks of crying on the forum. This lead to being able to salvage wrecks that are full. This lead to more carebears crying because people were salvaging their wrecks.
Then the obvious solution is to make asteroid wrecks salvageable by anyone, and mission wrecks flagged as belonging to the mission runner.
Sorry, I'm sure I just blew CCP's collective mind with that one.
Remember when missions were at asteroid belts and stargates? Why did CCP even create "instances" out in space for missions?
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