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Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.19 20:09:00 -
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Caldari Citizen 786478786 wrote:As if the flood of tears in the first GOON thread weren't delicious enough, their nut-hugging pets from TEST have arrived to show us all real meaning of whining on the forums.
Goons don't really do the whole "pet" thing. They really aren't into the whole "padding their space with people they don't like" thing, either.
Goons tend to shoot people they don't like. Hell, Goons tend to shoot people they DO like, for fun. All these people that you refer to as "pets", likely because you think they have no voice or something (idk, really). They are all friends of Goons. They like Goons, and Goons like them.
Goons don't abandon their friends, like certain alliances did with their "pets". If Raiden. or whoever decides to try and take a swipe at an ally, and that ally looks like they might not handle it, Goons will come and help out if asked. Not for any cost, or payment or anything. Just to help out a friend in need.
So you can take your little "pets" business and turn around and go back to whatever corner of space that you call home and enjoy your little ideas on your own time. |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.05.19 20:17:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:HVAC Repairman wrote:The argument that a certain segment of the player base was using was that the only reason people were throwing a tantrum was because it was the Mittani who did it, not because of what he did. If the leader of EVE Uni had been on the CSM and did the exact same thing, it would have never been an issue. The vast majority of the people who were calling for the Mittani to step down/get banned did not give a **** about the player who was mocked and only used it as a political excuse to go after him. Which to me, is every bit as bad as what Mittens did. I've seen this argument used a dozen times by Goons and it doesn't fly with me. That's the thing - the leader of the EVE Uni wouldn't have called for people to encourage someone to commit suicide. He didn't call for people to encourage someone to commit suicide - Mittens did. You can get into all these hypotheticals until the sun turns black and it won't make a bit of difference - it was Mittens that did it, and it was Mittens that got punished for it. To be honest, I think he got off incredibly lightly for a man who was essentially implying that a living human being should be encouraged to end their own existence - a 30-day ban and forced resignation from one CSM is an incredibly lenient punishment when I personally know people who've been permabanned for less. Here's a hypothetical question for you - if the offending person had been a member of Raiden. or NCDot, or a large hi-sec alliance... no, wait! I've got the perfect example. What if it had been Jade Constantine? I don't think there's a single member of Goonswarm who likes Jade Constantine. Jade seems like an excellent person for this hypothetical. What if it had been Jade Constantine who had done what Mittens did? Would Goons be so quick to leap to Jade Constantine's defense if he'd violated the EULA in such a manner? Would the Goons be clamouring for him to be allowed to stand on the next CSM, or would they be calling for a permaban? Or would they just not care?
You heard it here first folks. Andreus Ixiris thinks Mittani should have been executed for doing something dumb. |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.05.19 22:33:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Dawn Flare wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:The abysmal way Goons act towards others Just to throw it in there, Goons were hated on from day 1 of them coming to EVE, so their behavior to people who are not their friends is a result of the obvious us vs them attitude that was forced on them in the antiquity of EVE. That's not the way I recall things. Being complete a$$hats has been the focus of the Goon public persona from day one, it's not something the cruel world forced on them it's the way they chose to portray themselves. Whether or not it's real is immaterial, it's the way they want to be seen.
How involved have you been with Goons when they first started, Mister "I've been in the name NPC corp for my entire 8 years"? |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.05.19 23:12:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:MeBiatch wrote:you do know that the mittani supported the jita protest and told people to unsub so that ccp would change... how is this different? IIRC he stayed quiet about it
IIRC the Jita Protest was because CCP was getting dollar signs in their eyes over Incarna and Nex. Issler is calling for people to unsub to punish CCP because the mean Goonies and the mean PLs were mean to her Low-sec POS. |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.05.19 23:57:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Just Alter wrote:
This is unacceptable.
How can a person be so vile?
CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.
In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.
Issler should be removed too, if anybody was not convinced by these posts/letters alone then they can search these forum, the proof of issler inadequacy to be a part of the csm is clear.
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried, which is understandable. Please get your facts straight and do some research first before posting slanderous statements. There was only 1 player who actually was removed from the CSM back quite a few years ago for breaking the NDA. CCP didn't remove The Mittani from CSM 6, he resigned and due to his breaking the TOS/EULA, he received a slap on the wrist from CCP in the form of a 30 day ban from the game. That basically forfeited and eliminated him being in CSM 7. Posting a prejudiced and biased thread like this filled with false statements while naming and attacking a specific player should be grounds for this thread to be reported, removed and a warning issued. 2nd offense would be a 2 week forum ban and if continued, the IP address of the account would be permanently banned.
So would you agree that Issler should be removed from CSM for attempting to sabotage CCP because a group of players destroyed her low-sec POS? |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.05.20 01:38:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Just Alter wrote:
This is unacceptable.
How can a person be so vile?
CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.
In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.
Issler should be removed too, if anybody was not convinced by these posts/letters alone then they can search these forum, the proof of issler inadequacy to be a part of the csm is clear.
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried, which is understandable. Please get your facts straight and do some research first before posting slanderous statements. There was only 1 player who actually was removed from the CSM back quite a few years ago for breaking the NDA. CCP didn't remove The Mittani from CSM 6, he resigned and due to his breaking the TOS/EULA, he received a slap on the wrist from CCP in the form of a 30 day ban from the game. That basically forfeited and eliminated him being in CSM 7. Posting a prejudiced and biased thread like this filled with false statements while naming and attacking a specific player should be grounds for this thread to be reported, removed and a warning issued. 2nd offense would be a 2 week forum ban and if continued, the IP address of the account would be permanently banned. So would you agree that Issler should be removed from CSM for attempting to sabotage CCP because a group of players destroyed her low-sec POS? No, I do not agree with you nor do I see any evidence or proof that Issler is trying to sabotage CCP or break this game. However, what I do see is various members of a large Alliance doing a smear campaign due to being scared they will eventually lose control of the CSM, severely negating their ability to indirectly control this game. I have seen on numerous occasions your Alliance and it's infamous leader post statements of their intention to ruin all others game play, basically causing players to rage quit. That indirectly sabotages CCP's ability to make money and gain subscriptions, which will ultimately result in breaking this game. As for the CSM, I think all members should only be allowed to serve on the CSM for a maxium of 2 consecetive years and then be eligible again after 2 years off. DMC
So this quote right here, from the alliance mail sent by Issler after PL dropped dreads on her low-sec POS:
Quote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. Doesn't mean she wants people to unsub, thereby injuring CCP? And she didn't say these comments because PL dropped Dreads on her Low-sec POS? |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.05.20 02:22:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:So this quote right here, from the alliance mail sent by Issler after PL dropped dreads on her low-sec POS: Quote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. Doesn't mean she wants people to unsub, thereby injuring CCP? And she didn't say these comments because PL dropped Dreads on her Low-sec POS? Dreads in lowsec shooting POSes shouldn't be allowed I guess o_O Remove all jump drives, I guess. |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.05.20 02:31:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:So this quote right here, from the alliance mail sent by Issler after PL dropped dreads on her low-sec POS: Quote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. Doesn't mean she wants people to unsub, thereby injuring CCP? And she didn't say these comments because PL dropped Dreads on her Low-sec POS? No, it means we high sec players need to join together and fight back against those that would ruin our game experience. Never asked anyone to unsub. I said join together. You made up what I wanted us to do once we did join together. Two threads of nonsense. You know there is a dead thread in Jita Park with the same kind of nonsense. It went no where as well. Get over yourself, I'm not going anywhere. Issler
But see, that summer when Incarna flopped, everyone joined together to unsub, then shoot the Jita monument until their game time ran out. |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.05.20 02:31:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:So this quote right here, from the alliance mail sent by Issler after PL dropped dreads on her low-sec POS: Quote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. Doesn't mean she wants people to unsub, thereby injuring CCP? And she didn't say these comments because PL dropped Dreads on her Low-sec POS? No, it means we high sec players need to join together and fight back against those that would ruin our game experience. Never asked anyone to unsub. I said join together. You made up what I wanted us to do once we did join together. Two threads of nonsense. You know there is a dead thread in Jita Park with the same kind of nonsense. It went no where as well. Get over yourself, I'm not going anywhere. Issler
By all means, rally your support base and come show us who's boss. |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.20 18:40:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:
No, it means we high sec players need to join together and fight back against those that would ruin our game experience. Never asked anyone to unsub.
However, the only way CCP will CARE to change the game is by the measure of how many ppl DO leave. This summer is a good example CCP didnt want those 20% employees and WiS anyways
What do you hope to accomplish with a mass unsub? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
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Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.05.20 18:46:00 -
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David Cedarbridge wrote:I'm going to make a request of you, and its going to be probably more than you can handle, but you're going to have to deal with it. Fair is fair for your line of argument. Please quote the part of the EULA that he violated. Thanks in advance.
Why is anyone still arguing about this? What's done is done, all we can do now is move on and try to have Issler removed from the CSM for sabotaging CCP. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.05.20 18:51:00 -
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Malphilos wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:... all we can do now is move on and try to have Issler removed from the CSM for sabotaging CCP. True. Of course it would help if that had actually happened. Oh well.
This part right here:
Issler Dainze wrote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.
Is where she encourages her alliance to unsub en masse to protest Goons and PL attacking her vulnerable low-sec POS. Tell me how this isn't Issler conspiring to sabotage CCPs income? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.05.20 18:56:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. Is where she encourages her alliance to unsub en masse to protest Goons and PL attacking her vulnerable low-sec POS. Tell me how this isn't Issler conspiring to sabotage CCPs income? Because many people will join the game after all the goons and capital fleet mercs in lowsec have been banned.
But is that what she is trying to effect with this push for a mass unsub? A ban of a very large group of players who are playing entirely within the game rules? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.05.20 18:57:00 -
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Selinate wrote:posting in a goons and TEST are still butthurt thread.
You will find out how butthurt we've been at the CSM election announcement at next years Fanfest. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.05.20 18:59:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:This part right here: Issler Dainze wrote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. Is where she encourages her alliance to unsub en masse to protest Goons and PL attacking her vulnerable low-sec POS. Tell me how this isn't Issler conspiring to sabotage CCPs income? She doesn't say how the players should come together.
Uh, yes she does.
Issler Dainze wrote:players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions
I'm pretty sure that players joined together to mass unsub. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:03:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:
She doesn't say how the players should come together.
Uh, yes she does. Issler Dainze wrote:players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I'm pretty sure that players joined together to mass unsub.
It speaks of players coming together, not how.[/quote]
Issler Dainze wrote:like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:05:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Serge Bastana wrote:
Sounds really good for the game, just how a CSM member should be thinking. Ah, the proponents of the Butthurt AgendaGäó always have the big picture in mind don't they?
Only as long as the big picture includes a big butt that is hurt.
I'm active enough that my butt doesn't get hurt.
~Cavernous Depths~ Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:07:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:
It speaks of players coming together, not how.
Issler Dainze wrote:like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions Trying to infer something that isn't there. Nice try. Your butthurt. It shows.
I don't really see how that is inferring anything. The intent is right there. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:08:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:Serge Bastana wrote:
Sounds really good for the game, just how a CSM member should be thinking. Ah, the proponents of the Butthurt AgendaGäó always have the big picture in mind don't they?
Only as long as the big picture includes a big butt that is hurt. I'm active enough that my butt doesn't get hurt. ~Cavernous Depths~ You've posted in this thread enough to prove exactly what it is and how it hurts. It is your butt and it hurts.
I have the Elite Butt Tanking Certificate. Others may be butthurting, but I certainly am not.
Everyone is crying tears over everyone else's tears. Are there no original tears anymore? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:10:00 -
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Selinate wrote:
You're reading an intent for Issler to unite high sec players, you are inferring an intent to get people to unsub over the problems. Intent is there. Intent to get people to unsub is not.
Well, I'm sorry (no I'm not), you're wrong. Very very wrong. The words are there plain as day. If she didn't mean for people to join together like they did after Incarna (which the actions they used were to unsub), then why did she say it? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
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Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:11:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:I have the Elite Butt Tanking Certificate. Others may be butthurting, but I certainly am not.
Everyone is crying tears over everyone else's tears. Are there no original tears anymore? Your fishing for tears is unsuccessful
Do I need to get my tear fishing skill up to 450, and also have a +150 skill lure on my tear fishing pole before I can successfully fish for tears? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:14:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Selinate wrote:
You're reading an intent for Issler to unite high sec players, you are inferring an intent to get people to unsub over the problems. Intent is there. Intent to get people to unsub is not.
Well, I'm sorry (no I'm not), you're wrong. Very very wrong. The words are there plain as day. If she didn't mean for people to join together like they did after Incarna (which the actions they used were to unsub), then why did she say it? She said that she wanted to bring the players together in a unified force. She did not say what she wanted that unified force to do. It is simply not there. She said it because she does not like you and your friends, apparently.
If she didn't intend for a mass unsub, then why did she use the mass unsub after Incarna as an example?
By the way, it wasn't just high-sec dwellers that were mad after incarna, it was everyone.
The only real tears in this thread were quoted in the alliance mail quoted in the OP. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:19:00 -
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Selinate wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:
If she didn't intend for a mass unsub, then why did she use the mass unsub after Incarna as an example?
The players came together in more way than simply unsubbing after incarna. She didn't use the unsub itself as an example. Quote: By the way, it wasn't just high-sec dwellers that were mad after incarna, it was everyone.
Irrelevant. She wants to unify players against goons. Quote: The only real tears in this thread were quoted in the alliance mail quoted in the OP.
Well apparently you're still crying about it enough to post this much.
So posting automatically means I'm shedding tears?
If she wants to unify the players against the goons then i wish her luck, but considering the fact that corps are leaving her alliance like rats from a sinking ship, I think she's going to have a hard time organizing that.
And as for her platform for getting elected to the CSM, I wish her luck in effecting that change when she turned her back on her colleagues. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:19:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
ask CCP
What was the reason for that 30 day ban? OH YEA breach of EULA lol
Keep trying
In what way is saying something in REAL LIFE, no matter how objectionable, a breach of a EULA that covers IN GAME speech and activities? Really, point to the part of the EULA that covers out of game conduct. EULA wrote: You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
Emphasis mine.
Well hey, look at that. That EULA quote sure is something isn't it? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:42:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
ask CCP
What was the reason for that 30 day ban? OH YEA breach of EULA lol
Keep trying
In what way is saying something in REAL LIFE, no matter how objectionable, a breach of a EULA that covers IN GAME speech and activities? Really, point to the part of the EULA that covers out of game conduct. EULA wrote: You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
Emphasis mine. CCP has stated that all players participating in any Official CCP Sanctioned Venue such as this game, these forums and FanFest are subject to and must abide by the rules and regulations of the EULA/TOS.
Can you quote the EULA on this? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:59:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Just Alter wrote: CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.
In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.
Nice try but you are wrong in what you claim above... 1) Mittens wasn't removed from the CSM - he resigned. Kind of a big difference. 2) Even if they had removed him, it's not a precedent, others really have been removed in the past. Please - even if trolling - try to get your facts right. CCP did remove Mittens, after he stepped down from being the head of the CSM. They also IIRC banned him from running for the next CSM.
Actually they specifically said that he COULD run for the next CSM, not that he is gonna. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.05.20 21:20:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Just Alter wrote: CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.
In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.
Nice try but you are wrong in what you claim above... 1) Mittens wasn't removed from the CSM - he resigned. Kind of a big difference. 2) Even if they had removed him, it's not a precedent, others really have been removed in the past. Please - even if trolling - try to get your facts right. CCP did remove Mittens, after he stepped down from being the head of the CSM. They also IIRC banned him from running for the next CSM. Actually they specifically said that he COULD run for the next CSM, not that he is gonna. Hehe, I knew they said something about the next CSM :D Still, its a pity he's not going to run again. Even though I never really bothered reading all the CSM crap when the voting was going on I did vote for him, seemed like a pretty decent guy.
Next year I imagine we will have plenty of Goon candidates to choose from. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.05.20 23:01:00 -
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Cosmic Fart wrote:I support Issler Dainze 100% if no other reason than the rivers from which goon/test tears are creating. Carry on, working as intended!
So if we declared war on Cosmic Gas Corporation, and then PL popped a couple of your posses, AND THEN had a spy post an alliance mail where you whined that you were "littleraly being attacked by the CSM", you would say that the group posting that mail on the forums was crying bitter, bitter tears? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.05.20 23:05:00 -
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Cosmic Fart wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Cosmic Fart wrote:I support Issler Dainze 100% if no other reason than the rivers from which goon/test tears are creating. Carry on, working as intended! So if we declared war on Cosmic Gas Corporation, and then PL popped a couple of your posses, AND THEN had a spy post an alliance mail where you whined that you were "littleraly being attacked by the CSM", you would say that the group posting that mail on the forums was crying bitter, bitter tears? of course not I'd HTFU, afterall, isn't that the swarms typical response?
Yes it is, so how is doing the same thing to Issler "Goons crying bitter, bitter tears"? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.05.21 00:01:00 -
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Connaght Badasaz wrote:Damn, who's left to exit the woodwork?
DIII and his Brick Squad pro-posters still haven't posted in defense of Issler. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
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Zhihatsu
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Posted - 2012.05.21 00:11:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Connaght Badasaz wrote:Damn, who's left to exit the woodwork? DIII and his Brick Squad pro-posters still haven't posted in defense of Issler. Did that person who posted all the time in the Jita Park thread already post?
Which one is that? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.21 01:40:00 -
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Cosmic Fart wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:[quote=Shian Yang]
I recall something very hilarious about highsec people discussing nullsec mechanics with CCP long long ago which lead to hilarious results. I recall a CSM 6 member discussing the nerfing of WH space with some hilarious results. Not to exclude the fact that said person had little to no knowledge of WH mechanics. Seems to me there is a lot of the pot calling the kettle black.... or is it the kettle calling the pot black? Meh... who cares!
Was it the removal of high-end ores from low-end Wormhole systems? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.21 01:47:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Shian Yang wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:No, I do not agree with you nor do I see any evidence or proof that Issler is trying to sabotage CCP or break this game. Greetings capsuleer Crimson, Issler Dainze wrote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. If you recall events during the Summer of Rage, it resulted in a number of capsuleers leaving New Eden to force CCPs hand. I see capsuleer Dainze calling for players to join together as they did then. It may be benign, of course, and after the forum responses on this I see capsuleer Dainze clarifying that she never meant unsubscribing ... political backtracking, of course. You can see examples of capsuleer Dainze and her high level of compatibility with the CSM here. Be clear, I dislike this candidate for being a base politician at heart. I dislike the idea of a CSM that is fractured because of the actions of one individual. I would prefer a better candidate to handle matters relating to CONCORD patrolled areas, to the station environments and so forth. One without the controversy (See the number of threads) and without the disgusting, political behavior. Opinions, of course. Regards, Shian Yang Capsuleer Yang, I still stand by my statement in response to Capsuleer Zhihatsu, even though you conveniently left out the rest of it with your selective quoting which was : DeMichael Crimson wrote:However, what I do see is various members of a large Alliance doing a smear campaign due to being scared they will eventually lose control of the CSM, severely negating their ability to indirectly control this game.
I have seen on numerous occasions your Alliance and it's infamous leader post statements of their intention to ruin all others game play, basically causing players to rage quit. That indirectly sabotages CCP's ability to make money and gain subscriptions, which will ultimately result in breaking this game. I remember quite well the infamous Summer Of Rage and all of the numerous reasons and events that led up to the riots and players canceling their subscriptions. Sorry to disappoint you but it wasn't all due to the Incarna Expansion. During the life of Eve Online, there was a build up of various different issues (1000 Papercuts thread) constantly being neglected and ignored, CCP's failure to maintain a 'Commitment to Excellence', constantly delivering half finished, bugged content which usually resulted in breaking other working aspects of the game, CCP's Lack of Communication, etc. The list goes on and on. The Incarna Expansion and the events surrounding that time frame was simply the catalyst or in other words, the straw that broke the camel's back. Also you are mistaken in thinking the un-subs 'forced' CCP's hand. What actually 'forced' their hand was a rather large loan payment being due during that period of time. That was probably the most deciding factor which prompted the company to restructure itself. Granted the mass rage posting of un-subs didn't help the situation but CCP definitely wouldn't have felt the effects of those un-subs til much later. However, due to all of the combined events constantly being advertised in the media at that time, CCP had a knee jerk reaction and changed it's direction. As for your 'dislike' of Issler as a CSM member, that's your prerogative and quite frankly, has no bearing on the issue. That's like me saying for example, that I 'dislike' players who post overly polite smug self righteous hypocritical replies that start with 'Greetings'. Even if I did think that, it still has no bearing on the issue. The main issue that you and all the other members of CFC have for posting these threads filled with unfounded accusations and demands is that Issler isn't in-cahoots with your ultimate goal, which is to indirectly control this game through the CSM allowing all of the Null Security Powerblock Alliance members to greatly benefit at the expense of all other players who are not a member of their meta gaming click. Bottom line: Issler was voted into the CSM by members of this community and has not, I repeat, has not broken any rules or regulations pertaining to the EULA/TOS/NDA. That in itself negates the validity of these threads and as such, they should all be locked and if started again, forum bans be issued to the players posting those threads. Opinions, of course. Regards, DMC
What makes you think we are scared of losing control of the CSM? If anything this whole incident has cemented our resolve to solidiy our holding within the CSM next year. Surely those 10,058 voters can spread their votes evenly between 3-4 CFC candidates and have 3-4 of those members go to Iceland for Summits?
Also, if i may. (Warning: Language) http://youtu.be/OGp9P6QvMjY Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.21 01:49:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:My my, talking like a moderator, eh.
He is definitely on the verge of impersonating a moderator. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.21 02:26:00 -
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Cosmic Fart wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:
What makes you think we are scared of losing control of the CSM? If anything this whole incident has cemented our resolve to solidiy our holding within the CSM next year. Surely those 10,058 voters can spread their votes evenly between 3-4 CFC candidates and have 3-4 of those members go to Iceland for Summits?
You're working on two assumptions. 1. Goons still exists as they presently exist. 2. The CSM still exists. A lot can happen between now and time for the next election. Hell... the Myans might be right and all this arguing is nothing more than a waste of pixel dust.
I don't really see your point. I think it is highly likely that the CFC will still be around this game in a year. And we will still have the same or close to the same numbers as we do now, barring a sudden shift in CCP policy, which leads to assumption 2 and 3.
If the CSM isn't around next year, then I would assume that CCP has decided to make an about face on the game being what the players make of it, in which case:
Assumption 3: EVE Online will be dead.
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Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.21 02:27:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Capsuleer Yang, Shian Yang wrote:Irrelevant tangent. Half of these bloody forums are irrelevant tangents. Shian Yang wrote:I fully expect that you will report this communication to CONCORD as well. You should also have informed the other fine individual that the EVEO forums are under the jurisdiction of magical space fairies, not CONORD. Shian Yang wrote:That is a very Ammarian attitude. Force people to follow your viewpoints and all. No wonder I dislike you so much, because you are an Ammarian control freak at heart. In RUST we trust, Gold is like mold. Obtaining Oxidixed Avatar Plates to be made into Rift ~Ala Forsooth! Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:03:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Shian Yang wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:No, I do not agree with you nor do I see any evidence or proof that Issler is trying to sabotage CCP or break this game. Greetings capsuleer Crimson, Issler Dainze wrote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. If you recall events during the Summer of Rage, it resulted in a number of capsuleers leaving New Eden to force CCPs hand. I see capsuleer Dainze calling for players to join together as they did then. It may be benign, of course, and after the forum responses on this I see capsuleer Dainze clarifying that she never meant unsubscribing ... political backtracking, of course. You can see examples of capsuleer Dainze and her high level of compatibility with the CSM here. Be clear, I dislike this candidate for being a base politician at heart. I dislike the idea of a CSM that is fractured because of the actions of one individual. I would prefer a better candidate to handle matters relating to CONCORD patrolled areas, to the station environments and so forth. One without the controversy (See the number of threads) and without the disgusting, political behavior. Opinions, of course. Regards, Shian Yang So, since Goon Boy organized the "summer of rage" that means Goon Boy, and all his Goon Boy friends on the CSM should be removed from the CSM as well. Using your logic. Oh wait, that's applying logic that is less than totally hypocritical and insane and you are a Goon. Sorry for asking to much of you.
Taking CCP to task for losing sight of their own best interests is one thing. Pushing for a mass unsub because you got your tower shot at by PL is another. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:08:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
So, since Goon Boy organized the "summer of rage" that means Goon Boy, and all his Goon Boy friends on the CSM should be removed from the CSM as well. Using your logic.
Oh wait, that's applying logic that is less than totally hypocritical and insane and you are a Goon.
Sorry for asking to much of you.
Taking CCP to task for losing sight of their own best interests is one thing. Pushing for a mass unsub because you got your tower shot at by PL is another. Issler also is confusing the in game actions of a player who happens to be a member of the CSM with the CSM's official actions.
It would be pretty funny if the entire CSM decided to move against her in game, though. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:12:00 -
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Shian Yang wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:So, since Goon Boy organized the "summer of rage" that means Goon Boy, and all his Goon Boy friends on the CSM should be removed from the CSM as well. Using your logic.
Oh wait, that's applying logic that is less than totally hypocritical and insane and you are a Goon.
Sorry for asking to much of you.
Taking CCP to task for losing sight of their own best interests is one thing. Pushing for a mass unsub because you got your tower shot at by PL is another. Greetings capsuleer Zhihatsu, Thank you, yes. That is it in essence. Capsuleer Tassik is a bit blinded by his hatred of Goonswarm federation he can't let critical thinking get in the way of a good rant. And, I suspect he has a rather pathological hatred of me after I exposed him as a repeat liar with a bad memory. I don't expect too much of somebody that can't even check an employment history though - calling me a Goon! I should pod the little weasel for such a statement! Regards, Shian Yang
Goons never RP.
Capsuleer Tassik hates anyone who disagrees with him, and also makes an effort to report all posts who go contrary to his opinions. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:18:00 -
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You people keep using this word. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
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