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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1031
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:32:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:If she wants to unify the players against the goons then i wish her luck, but considering the fact that corps are leaving her alliance like rats from a sinking ship, I think she's going to have a hard time organizing that.
And as for her platform for getting elected to the CSM, I wish her luck in effecting that change when she turned her back on her colleagues. How did she get elected to the CSM, anyway?
I've seen her post on the forums a little, and she just doesn't seem to understand Eve at all. I didn't really pay attention to the CSM either, so I missed the part where she somehow won a seat.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
812
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:37:00 -
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Sepherina Neuburg wrote:If the Goons didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent them.
Not so sure the same could be said for this thread. We'd certainly need to invent an entire group of player representatives to "littlerally" attack someone so they know just how bad the whole playerbase hates their inane ideas.
Oh wait ... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
812
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:38:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:How did she get elected to the CSM, anyway?
I've seen her post on the forums a little, and she just doesn't seem to understand Eve at all. I didn't really pay attention to the CSM either, so I missed the part where she somehow won a seat. On the backs of the working class, the silent highsec miner. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
218
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:43:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
ask CCP
What was the reason for that 30 day ban? OH YEA breach of EULA lol
Keep trying
In what way is saying something in REAL LIFE, no matter how objectionable, a breach of a EULA that covers IN GAME speech and activities? Really, point to the part of the EULA that covers out of game conduct. EULA wrote: You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
Emphasis mine. Well hey, look at that. That EULA quote sure is something isn't it? Damn, would you look at that. |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
70
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:50:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:If she wants to unify the players against the goons then i wish her luck, but considering the fact that corps are leaving her alliance like rats from a sinking ship, I think she's going to have a hard time organizing that.
And as for her platform for getting elected to the CSM, I wish her luck in effecting that change when she turned her back on her colleagues. How did she get elected to the CSM, anyway? I've seen her post on the forums a little, and she just doesn't seem to understand Eve at all. I didn't really pay attention to the CSM either, so I missed the part where she somehow won a seat. she only barely edged out the unapologetic ****
theres not enough good candidates to fill 14 slots so the bottom few are filled with the detritus of eve |
Mersault
Blue Nine Industries
84
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:53:00 -
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Issler, I play in High Sec atm and am not now nor will ever be a part of your 'we'
I strongly doubt I am unique in just *not giving a cr@p* about Hulkagedon, Iceagedon, Burn Jita, or where Level 4's end up.
Substitute 'we high sec players' for ' the disgruntled and down trodden who follow me' |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1031
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:55:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:she only barely edged out the unapologetic ****
theres not enough good candidates to fill 14 slots so the bottom few are filled with the detritus of eve Oh nice, I might give running for CSM a go next year then.
We get a free trip to Iceland, right?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
812
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:57:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:she only barely edged out the unapologetic ****
theres not enough good candidates to fill 14 slots so the bottom few are filled with the detritus of eve Oh nice, I might give running for CSM a go next year then. We get a free trip to Iceland, right? Not if you're in the bottom few.
Being detritus doesn't prevent that getting a top seat though, is that's what you mean. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2018
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Posted - 2012.05.20 19:58:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
ask CCP
What was the reason for that 30 day ban? OH YEA breach of EULA lol
Keep trying
In what way is saying something in REAL LIFE, no matter how objectionable, a breach of a EULA that covers IN GAME speech and activities? Really, point to the part of the EULA that covers out of game conduct. EULA wrote: You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
Emphasis mine.
CCP has stated that all players participating in any Official CCP Sanctioned Venue such as this game, these forums and FanFest are subject to and must abide by the rules and regulations of the EULA/TOS.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
812
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:03:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
ask CCP
What was the reason for that 30 day ban? OH YEA breach of EULA lol
Keep trying
In what way is saying something in REAL LIFE, no matter how objectionable, a breach of a EULA that covers IN GAME speech and activities? Really, point to the part of the EULA that covers out of game conduct. EULA wrote: You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
Emphasis mine. CCP has stated that all players participating in any Official CCP Sanctioned Venue such as this game, these forums and FanFest are subject to and must abide by the rules and regulations of the EULA/TOS. Need a new EULA quote then Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
219
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:11:00 -
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The Issler Dainzer Interdiction is coming. Heh. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1559
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:12:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
ask CCP
What was the reason for that 30 day ban? OH YEA breach of EULA lol
Keep trying
In what way is saying something in REAL LIFE, no matter how objectionable, a breach of a EULA that covers IN GAME speech and activities? Really, point to the part of the EULA that covers out of game conduct. EULA wrote: You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
Emphasis mine. CCP has stated that all players participating in any Official CCP Sanctioned Venue such as this game, these forums and FanFest are subject to and must abide by the rules and regulations of the EULA/TOS.
I believe they said that AFTER this most recent Fanfest.
Cause there's been plenty of cursing in Official CCP Sanctioned Venues by Official CCP Devs in the past, and CCP considers cursing to be against the EULA when it's in game. There's also been plenty of drunken stupidity in Official CCP Sanctioned Venues in the past (every single FanFest).
The difference is that this time, CCP got bad press for it and they're past the point where any press is good press, so they needed to grab a goat to scape. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
812
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:16:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:The Issler Dainzer Interdiction is coming. Oh.
How so? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Tinnin Sylph
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
219
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:28:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Tinnin Sylph wrote:The Issler Dainzer Interdiction is coming. Oh. How so?
30.08.14 Heh. |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1031
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:34:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Tinnin Sylph wrote:The Issler Dainzer Interdiction is coming. Oh. How so? 30.08.14 Can I come?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Helena Russell Makanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:42:00 -
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Just Alter wrote: CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.
In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.
Nice try but you are wrong in what you claim above...
1) Mittens wasn't removed from the CSM - he resigned. Kind of a big difference.
2) Even if they had removed him, it's not a precedent, others really have been removed in the past.
Please - even if trolling - try to get your facts right.
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Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:42:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
ask CCP
What was the reason for that 30 day ban? OH YEA breach of EULA lol
Keep trying
In what way is saying something in REAL LIFE, no matter how objectionable, a breach of a EULA that covers IN GAME speech and activities? Really, point to the part of the EULA that covers out of game conduct. EULA wrote: You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
Emphasis mine. CCP has stated that all players participating in any Official CCP Sanctioned Venue such as this game, these forums and FanFest are subject to and must abide by the rules and regulations of the EULA/TOS.
Can you quote the EULA on this? Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1031
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:48:00 -
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Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Just Alter wrote: CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.
In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.
Nice try but you are wrong in what you claim above... 1) Mittens wasn't removed from the CSM - he resigned. Kind of a big difference. 2) Even if they had removed him, it's not a precedent, others really have been removed in the past. Please - even if trolling - try to get your facts right. CCP did remove Mittens, after he stepped down from being the head of the CSM. They also IIRC banned him from running for the next CSM.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.05.20 20:59:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Just Alter wrote: CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.
In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.
Nice try but you are wrong in what you claim above... 1) Mittens wasn't removed from the CSM - he resigned. Kind of a big difference. 2) Even if they had removed him, it's not a precedent, others really have been removed in the past. Please - even if trolling - try to get your facts right. CCP did remove Mittens, after he stepped down from being the head of the CSM. They also IIRC banned him from running for the next CSM.
Actually they specifically said that he COULD run for the next CSM, not that he is gonna. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1031
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Posted - 2012.05.20 21:14:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Just Alter wrote: CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.
In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.
Nice try but you are wrong in what you claim above... 1) Mittens wasn't removed from the CSM - he resigned. Kind of a big difference. 2) Even if they had removed him, it's not a precedent, others really have been removed in the past. Please - even if trolling - try to get your facts right. CCP did remove Mittens, after he stepped down from being the head of the CSM. They also IIRC banned him from running for the next CSM. Actually they specifically said that he COULD run for the next CSM, not that he is gonna. Hehe, I knew they said something about the next CSM :D
Still, its a pity he's not going to run again. Even though I never really bothered reading all the CSM crap when the voting was going on I did vote for him, seemed like a pretty decent guy.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
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Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.05.20 21:20:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Simi Kusoni wrote:Helena Russell Makanen wrote:Just Alter wrote: CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm.
In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm.
Nice try but you are wrong in what you claim above... 1) Mittens wasn't removed from the CSM - he resigned. Kind of a big difference. 2) Even if they had removed him, it's not a precedent, others really have been removed in the past. Please - even if trolling - try to get your facts right. CCP did remove Mittens, after he stepped down from being the head of the CSM. They also IIRC banned him from running for the next CSM. Actually they specifically said that he COULD run for the next CSM, not that he is gonna. Hehe, I knew they said something about the next CSM :D Still, its a pity he's not going to run again. Even though I never really bothered reading all the CSM crap when the voting was going on I did vote for him, seemed like a pretty decent guy.
Next year I imagine we will have plenty of Goon candidates to choose from. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
813
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Posted - 2012.05.20 21:30:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Next year I imagine we will have plenty of Goon candidates to choose from. Heh. Whatever shall I choose, I need Solo Drakban to tell me ~
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
994
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Posted - 2012.05.20 21:32:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:One can only hope that Ladie Harlot adds his/her unique balanced take on this anti - Issler thread.
Ladie Harlot was unfortunately permanently banned.
FREE LADIE HARLOT |
Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
100
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Posted - 2012.05.20 22:06:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:
No, it means we high sec players need to join together and fight back against those that would ruin our game experience. Never asked anyone to unsub.
However, the only way CCP will CARE to change the game is by the measure of how many ppl DO leave. This summer is a good example CCP didnt want those 20% employees and WiS anyways What do you hope to accomplish with a mass unsub?
Just pointing out they see what we do not what we say
what would be acomplished? It would get CCP from under that problem. If ppl unsub for an anti PVP reason, I could see the goons doing it in pro PVP support and once it gets all settled nothing would happen lol http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
Commit Sudoku
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.05.20 22:13:00 -
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without pvp and its associated drama eve is literally excel.exe and mirc.exe with a .gif of a spinning space ship wrapped around both. |
Josef Djugashvilis
193
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Posted - 2012.05.20 22:13:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:One can only hope that Ladie Harlot adds his/her unique balanced take on this anti - Issler thread. Ladie Harlot was unfortunately permanently banned. FREE LADIE HARLOT
I deeply regret the perma-ban of Ladie Harlot.
You want fries with that? |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2026
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Posted - 2012.05.20 22:28:00 -
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Issler Danzig has not broken any rules or regulations of the EULA/TOS/NDA. This GSF / pet infested thread, as well as the couple of other infested threads, advocating for removal from CSM is nothing more than a hate smear campaign. The CFC members and their friends / alts constantly posting replies in these threads is a good example of meta gaming and shouting out any opposing viewpoints.
RubyPorto wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote: CCP has stated that all players participating in any Official CCP Sanctioned Venue such as this game, these forums and FanFest are subject to and must abide by the rules and regulations of the EULA/TOS.
I believe they said that AFTER this most recent Fanfest. Cause there's been plenty of cursing in Official CCP Sanctioned Venues by Official CCP Devs in the past, and CCP considers cursing to be against the EULA when it's in game. There's also been plenty of drunken stupidity in Official CCP Sanctioned Venues in the past (every single FanFest). The difference is that this time, CCP got bad press for it and they're past the point where any press is good press, so they needed to grab a goat to scape.
Cursing and Drunken Stupidity by CCP Devs? I haven't seen CCP Devs do that.
As for the Alliance Panel, CCP has in the past given them a lot of freedom allowing the Panel to be conducted in an informal manner resulting in cursing and drunken stupidity by some of the Panel members.
The difference this time is the actions of one member went way beyond that and basically made CCP subject to possible legal proceedings and yes, it was very bad press as well for CCP who is looking to expand and grow.
But hey, keep trying to portray that member as an innocent 'scape goat'..
GM Salmon wrote:As some of you might have heard, one of the Alliance leaders speaking at the Alliance Panel during EVE Fanfest 2012 breached our EULA/TOS with some ill-advised remarks about a fellow EVE player. It goes without saying that CCP deeply regrets this incident and will work towards reducing any possibility of this happening again in the future.
CCP requested that all panel PowerPoint presentations and discussion topics be handed in beforehand for approval. Regrettably, the offending comments were made during an unscripted Q&A session after the main presentations.
Following a thorough internal review CCP has decided to respond to this clear violation of our Terms of Service and wholly inappropriate use of the Alliance Panel. According to our existing policies, we have issued a 30 day ban from EVE Online to the panel speaker.
The policy of CCP is not to publicly discuss warnings and bans on an individual basis. This situation is entirely unique because the panel was displayed via CCPGÇÖs Fanfest video stream component, a platform analogous to our forums. As a result we have published this statement due to the special circumstances involved. However, our policy remains that we will not publicly discuss warnings and bans.
The panelist has subsequently posted a public apology as well as a private apology to the victim of his attack. He has also resigned from his position as Chairman of CSM 6 and has forfeited his right to serve on CSM 7. As per our policies, this candidate may be eligible to run at a later date subject to candidacy review.
The Council of Stellar Management is a democratically elected council that represents the players of EVE Online. Although council members may represent the players in any manner they choose, being a council member does not permit actions or playstyles that violate our policies.
GM Salmon
VP of Customer Relationship Management
CCP Xhagen wrote:Q3, Real life actions should not equate to in game sanctions. Why did this happen?
A3, After much deliberation on the subject, CCP considers the Alliance Panel to be an official CCP forum, as it is hosted by CCP and broadcast in a similarly visible fashion to the EVE Online forums. As such, it falls under the jurisdiction of the TOS. Furthermore, the panelist, present on the panel in order to represent his in-game identity, advocated using in-game actions to achieve a real world outcome. Specifically he suggested that if anyone wanted to make another player kill themselves in real life, they should go in game and harass them to achieve that consequence. The totality of the situation including the official forum in which it was held and statements of the panelist during the Q&A, have since lead to in-game sanctions. However, it is important to note that this incidence does not necessarily create precedence for any other "real life" actions or statements triggering a ban.
Q4, Wait, so you DID vet the presentations? Meaning it was perfectly fine for him to make fun of a suicidal player?
A4, Although the contents of the Alliance Panel presentations and discussion topics are reviewed by CCP prior to the event itself, the TOS-breaking incident took place during an unscripted Q&A session after the main presentation which was not mentioned in the submitted presentation. The submitted presentation slides (although distasteful) did not give the name of the player at any time, nor did they call for direct action against that player, and therefore passed muster. CCP have always allowed substantial leeway during the Alliance Panel and we look forward to ensuring that future events remain entertaining and engaging for the EVE community.
CCP Xhagen | Senior Researcher CSM Project Manager
Zhihatsu wrote:
Can you quote the EULA on this?
Read above.
Next time, how about you doing some research instead of being lazy?
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Shian Yang
176
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Posted - 2012.05.20 22:38:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:No, I do not agree with you nor do I see any evidence or proof that Issler is trying to sabotage CCP or break this game.
Greetings capsuleer Crimson,
Issler Dainze wrote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.
If you recall events during the Summer of Rage, it resulted in a number of capsuleers leaving New Eden to force CCPs hand. I see capsuleer Dainze calling for players to join together as they did then. It may be benign, of course, and after the forum responses on this I see capsuleer Dainze clarifying that she never meant unsubscribing ... political backtracking, of course.
You can see examples of capsuleer Dainze and her high level of compatibility with the CSM here.
Be clear, I dislike this candidate for being a base politician at heart. I dislike the idea of a CSM that is fractured because of the actions of one individual. I would prefer a better candidate to handle matters relating to CONCORD patrolled areas, to the station environments and so forth. One without the controversy (See the number of threads) and without the disgusting, political behavior.
Opinions, of course.
Regards,
Shian Yang |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1559
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Posted - 2012.05.20 22:46:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:One can only hope that Ladie Harlot adds his/her unique balanced take on this anti - Issler thread. Ladie Harlot was unfortunately permanently banned. FREE LADIE HARLOT
When did that silly Brit get banned? I miss him already. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Hanuman Li Tosh
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
0
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Posted - 2012.05.20 22:50:00 -
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Nick Bison wrote:Posting in another "I hate Issler" thread.
Issler must be doing it right to get all this hate.
The PCU speaks for itself, just like it did last year.
No-one left to lay off this time around. |
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