Cursing and Drunken Stupidity by CCP Devs? I haven't seen CCP Devs do that.

As for the Alliance Panel, CCP has in the past given them a lot of freedom allowing the Panel to be conducted in an informal manner resulting in cursing and drunken stupidity by some of the Panel members.

The difference this time is the actions of one member went way beyond that and basically made CCP subject to possible legal proceedings and yes, it was very bad press as well for CCP who is looking to expand and grow.

But hey, keep trying to portray that member as an innocent 'scape goat'..







Read above.

Next time, how about you doing some research instead of being lazy?

I support Issler Dainze 100% if no other reason than the rivers from which goon/test tears are creating.



Carry on, working as intended!

So if we declared war on Cosmic Gas Corporation, and then PL popped a couple of your posses, AND THEN had a spy post an alliance mail where you whined that you were "littleraly being attacked by the CSM", you would say that the group posting that mail on the forums was crying bitter, bitter tears?

of course not


I'd HTFU, afterall, isn't that the swarms typical response?

Yes it is, so how is doing the same thing to Issler "Goons crying bitter, bitter tears"?

Damn, who's left to exit the woodwork?

DIII and his Brick Squad pro-posters still haven't posted in defense of Issler.

Did that person who posted all the time in the Jita Park thread already post?

She doesn't say how the players should come together.

To give you an idea of how screwed up this is in the context of Eve, the allinace hired was Pandemic Legion, what is where the head of the CSM lives,so we are littlerally being attacked by the CSM.Basically Eve is beyond broken.CCP is actually totally supportive of goons and ganking, they think of it as player content. They encourage and support hulkagedon! They actually laugh about miner tears. Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year.

Personally, the last line, "I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year" is pointing me towards alternative 3.

• so we are littlerally being attacked by the CSM
• Eve is beyond broken
• CCP is actually totally support of goons and ganking
• The actually laugh about miner tears

Dainze is so far removed from New Eden it is not funny. This capsuleer, if she can move beyond petty politics, will be a danger to the free, open world we have in New Eden as her focus is so insular, so locked out of the scope of the entirety of New Eden that she will change our Universe forever if she gets anything done.

It frightens me that somebody so disconnected from New Eden has any say.

Regards,

Shian Yang

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I recall something very hilarious about highsec people discussing nullsec mechanics with CCP long long ago which lead to hilarious results.

I recall a CSM 6 member discussing the nerfing of WH space with some hilarious results. Not to exclude the fact that said person had little to no knowledge of WH mechanics.


Seems to me there is a lot of the pot calling the kettle black.... or is it the kettle calling the pot black?

Meh... who cares!

Greetings capsuleer Crimson,



If you recall events during the Summer of Rage, it resulted in a number of capsuleers leaving New Eden to force CCPs hand. I see capsuleer Dainze calling for players to join together as they did then. It may be benign, of course, and after the forum responses on this I see capsuleer Dainze clarifying that she never meant unsubscribing ... political backtracking, of course.

You can see examples of capsuleer Dainze and her high level of compatibility with the CSM here.

Be clear, I dislike this candidate for being a base politician at heart. I dislike the idea of a CSM that is fractured because of the actions of one individual. I would prefer a better candidate to handle matters relating to CONCORD patrolled areas, to the station environments and so forth. One without the controversy (See the number of threads) and without the disgusting, political behavior.

Opinions, of course.

Regards,

Shian Yang

However, what I do see is various members of a large Alliance doing a smear campaign due to being scared they will eventually lose control of the CSM, severely negating their ability to indirectly control this game.

I have seen on numerous occasions your Alliance and it's infamous leader post statements of their intention to ruin all others game play, basically causing players to rage quit. That indirectly sabotages CCP's ability to make money and gain subscriptions, which will ultimately result in breaking this game.

Capsuleer Yang,

I still stand by my statement in response to Capsuleer Zhihatsu, even though you conveniently left out the rest of it with your selective quoting which was :



I remember quite well the infamous Summer Of Rage and all of the numerous reasons and events that led up to the riots and players canceling their subscriptions. Sorry to disappoint you but it wasn't all due to the Incarna Expansion. During the life of Eve Online, there was a build up of various different issues (1000 Papercuts thread) constantly being neglected and ignored, CCP's failure to maintain a 'Commitment to Excellence', constantly delivering half finished, bugged content which usually resulted in breaking other working aspects of the game, CCP's Lack of Communication, etc. The list goes on and on. The Incarna Expansion and the events surrounding that time frame was simply the catalyst or in other words, the straw that broke the camel's back.

Also you are mistaken in thinking the un-subs 'forced' CCP's hand. What actually 'forced' their hand was a rather large loan payment being due during that period of time. That was probably the most deciding factor which prompted the company to restructure itself. Granted the mass rage posting of un-subs didn't help the situation but CCP definitely wouldn't have felt the effects of those un-subs til much later. However, due to all of the combined events constantly being advertised in the media at that time, CCP had a knee jerk reaction and changed it's direction.

As for your 'dislike' of Issler as a CSM member, that's your prerogative and quite frankly, has no bearing on the issue. That's like me saying for example, that I 'dislike' players who post overly polite smug self righteous hypocritical replies that start with 'Greetings'. Even if I did think that, it still has no bearing on the issue. The main issue that you and all the other members of CFC have for posting these threads filled with unfounded accusations and demands is that Issler isn't in-cahoots with your ultimate goal, which is to indirectly control this game through the CSM allowing all of the Null Security Powerblock Alliance members to greatly benefit at the expense of all other players who are not a member of their meta gaming click.

Bottom line: Issler was voted into the CSM by members of this community and has not, I repeat, has not broken any rules or regulations pertaining to the EULA/TOS/NDA. That in itself negates the validity of these threads and as such, they should all be locked and if started again, forum bans be issued to the players posting those threads.

Opinions, of course.

Regards,

DMC

My my, talking like a moderator, eh.

I remember quite well the infamous Summer Of Rage and all of the numerous reasons and events that led up to the riots and players canceling their subscriptions. Sorry to disappoint you but it wasn't all due to the Incarna Expansion. During the life of Eve Online, there was a build up of various different issues (1000 Papercuts thread) constantly being neglected and ignored, CCP's failure to maintain a 'Commitment to Excellence', constantly delivering half finished, bugged content which usually resulted in breaking other working aspects of the game, CCP's Lack of Communication, etc. The list goes on and on. The Incarna Expansion and the events surrounding that time frame was simply the catalyst or in other words, the straw that broke the camel's back.

As for your 'dislike' of Issler as a CSM member, that's your prerogative and quite frankly, has no bearing on the issue. That's like me saying for example, that I 'dislike' players who post overly polite smug self righteous hypocritical replies that start with 'Greetings'.

That in itself negates the validity of these threads and as such, they should all be locked and if started again, forum bans be issued to the players posting those threads.

Irrelevant tangent.

I fully expect that you will report this communication to CONCORD as well.

That is a very Ammarian attitude. Force people to follow your viewpoints and all. No wonder I dislike you so much, because you are an Ammarian control freak at heart.

You're working on two assumptions.

1. Goons still exists as they presently exist.
2. The CSM still exists.

A lot can happen between now and time for the next election. Hell... the Myans might be right and all this arguing is nothing more than a waste of pixel dust.

Capsuleer Yang,



Half of these bloody forums are irrelevant tangents.


You should also have informed the other fine individual that the EVEO forums are under the jurisdiction of magical space fairies, not CONORD.


In RUST we trust,
Gold is like mold.


Obtaining Oxidixed Avatar Plates to be made into Rift

~Ala

In RUST we trust,
Gold is like mold.

Capsuleer Fera,

I like that. One of my other favourites is: "Flying Minmatar ships is like going down stairs in a wheelchair while firing an Uzi."

Regards,

Shian Yang

Capsuleer Fera,

I like that. One of my other favourites is: "Flying Minmatar ships is like going down stairs in a wheelchair while firing an Uzi."

Regards,

Shian Yang

Greetings capsuleer Crimson,



If you recall events during the Summer of Rage, it resulted in a number of capsuleers leaving New Eden to force CCPs hand. I see capsuleer Dainze calling for players to join together as they did then. It may be benign, of course, and after the forum responses on this I see capsuleer Dainze clarifying that she never meant unsubscribing ... political backtracking, of course.

You can see examples of capsuleer Dainze and her high level of compatibility with the CSM here.

Be clear, I dislike this candidate for being a base politician at heart. I dislike the idea of a CSM that is fractured because of the actions of one individual. I would prefer a better candidate to handle matters relating to CONCORD patrolled areas, to the station environments and so forth. One without the controversy (See the number of threads) and without the disgusting, political behavior.

Opinions, of course.

Regards,

Shian Yang