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Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:03:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Shian Yang wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:No, I do not agree with you nor do I see any evidence or proof that Issler is trying to sabotage CCP or break this game. Greetings capsuleer Crimson, Issler Dainze wrote:Unless players join together this summer like they did over CCPs plans to exploit players using microtranactions I can't imagine how most of us could enjoy this game in a year. If you recall events during the Summer of Rage, it resulted in a number of capsuleers leaving New Eden to force CCPs hand. I see capsuleer Dainze calling for players to join together as they did then. It may be benign, of course, and after the forum responses on this I see capsuleer Dainze clarifying that she never meant unsubscribing ... political backtracking, of course. You can see examples of capsuleer Dainze and her high level of compatibility with the CSM here. Be clear, I dislike this candidate for being a base politician at heart. I dislike the idea of a CSM that is fractured because of the actions of one individual. I would prefer a better candidate to handle matters relating to CONCORD patrolled areas, to the station environments and so forth. One without the controversy (See the number of threads) and without the disgusting, political behavior. Opinions, of course. Regards, Shian Yang So, since Goon Boy organized the "summer of rage" that means Goon Boy, and all his Goon Boy friends on the CSM should be removed from the CSM as well. Using your logic. Oh wait, that's applying logic that is less than totally hypocritical and insane and you are a Goon. Sorry for asking to much of you.
Taking CCP to task for losing sight of their own best interests is one thing. Pushing for a mass unsub because you got your tower shot at by PL is another. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1561
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:07:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
So, since Goon Boy organized the "summer of rage" that means Goon Boy, and all his Goon Boy friends on the CSM should be removed from the CSM as well. Using your logic.
Oh wait, that's applying logic that is less than totally hypocritical and insane and you are a Goon.
Sorry for asking to much of you.
Taking CCP to task for losing sight of their own best interests is one thing. Pushing for a mass unsub because you got your tower shot at by PL is another.
Issler also is confusing the in game actions of a player who happens to be a member of the CSM with the CSM's official actions. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:08:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
So, since Goon Boy organized the "summer of rage" that means Goon Boy, and all his Goon Boy friends on the CSM should be removed from the CSM as well. Using your logic.
Oh wait, that's applying logic that is less than totally hypocritical and insane and you are a Goon.
Sorry for asking to much of you.
Taking CCP to task for losing sight of their own best interests is one thing. Pushing for a mass unsub because you got your tower shot at by PL is another. Issler also is confusing the in game actions of a player who happens to be a member of the CSM with the CSM's official actions.
It would be pretty funny if the entire CSM decided to move against her in game, though. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Shian Yang
181
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:10:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:So, since Goon Boy organized the "summer of rage" that means Goon Boy, and all his Goon Boy friends on the CSM should be removed from the CSM as well. Using your logic.
Oh wait, that's applying logic that is less than totally hypocritical and insane and you are a Goon.
Sorry for asking to much of you.
Taking CCP to task for losing sight of their own best interests is one thing. Pushing for a mass unsub because you got your tower shot at by PL is another.
Greetings capsuleer Zhihatsu,
Thank you, yes. That is it in essence. Capsuleer Tassik is a bit blinded by his hatred of Goonswarm federation he can't let critical thinking get in the way of a good rant. And, I suspect he has a rather pathological hatred of me after I exposed him as a repeat liar with a bad memory.
I don't expect too much of somebody that can't even check an employment history though - calling me a Goon! I should pod the little weasel for such a statement!
Regards,
Shian Yang |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:12:00 -
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Shian Yang wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:So, since Goon Boy organized the "summer of rage" that means Goon Boy, and all his Goon Boy friends on the CSM should be removed from the CSM as well. Using your logic.
Oh wait, that's applying logic that is less than totally hypocritical and insane and you are a Goon.
Sorry for asking to much of you.
Taking CCP to task for losing sight of their own best interests is one thing. Pushing for a mass unsub because you got your tower shot at by PL is another. Greetings capsuleer Zhihatsu, Thank you, yes. That is it in essence. Capsuleer Tassik is a bit blinded by his hatred of Goonswarm federation he can't let critical thinking get in the way of a good rant. And, I suspect he has a rather pathological hatred of me after I exposed him as a repeat liar with a bad memory. I don't expect too much of somebody that can't even check an employment history though - calling me a Goon! I should pod the little weasel for such a statement! Regards, Shian Yang
Goons never RP.
Capsuleer Tassik hates anyone who disagrees with him, and also makes an effort to report all posts who go contrary to his opinions. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
RAP ACTION HERO
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:13:00 -
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The most damning fact is that issler dainze is a full blown supporter of the quick and dirty social gameplay dressup only approach to wis incarna. emotes over wars, pants over ships, enemy to all of lowsec, do we really need this kind of unseemly csm just when ccp is on the right track?
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Styx Cyc
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:16:00 -
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Toasting in a 4chanSwarm Tears thread.
the tl;dr version of this thread: Pot. Kettle. Black. |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:18:00 -
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You people keep using this word. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
1561
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:32:00 -
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Styx Cyc wrote:Toasting in a 4chanSwarm Tears thread. the tl;dr version of this thread: Pot. Kettle. Black.
First, Goons are from SA, /b/tards are from /b/ Second, see above post. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
2034
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Posted - 2012.05.21 05:53:00 -
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Shian Yang wrote: Greetings capsuleer Crimson,
Irrelevant tangent.
You are more than welcome to dislike me and to voice said dislike. I will quite honestly say I dislike your smug, hypocritical attitude, your willingness to report people to the authorities and to cry for your mommy's teat whenever you find somebody disagrees with you. I fully expect that you will report this communication to CONCORD as well.
However, the dislike of some capsuleers for capsuleer Dainze, their disagreement with her policies and the articulation thereof is relevant however in the same way that complaints and discussions regarding capsuleer Mittani and other members of the Goonswarm federation was relevant both before and after the election.
In other words - capsuleers talk about their representatives in a free and open democracy and voice their opinions; both positive and negative. Just as you were voicing your opinion without trying to get discussions locked regarding the Mittani. Recall those conversations you were a part of? Where was your noble, white steed and shining suit of armour then?
Capsuleer Yang,
Yes, it seems you are indeed going off on an irrelevant tangent, especially since I only stated an example while you make it personal.
Be that as it may, I believe the feeling of 'dislike' is very mutual without having to openly state it. I'm sure you know that as long as the replies are respectful and don't break the Forum Rules, there's no cause for 'reporting'. Due to your remarks about reporting, crying for mommy's teat, white noble steed and shining suit of armor, it seems you're probably an alt of someone who was banned due to repeated forum trolling. However, that's a very thin line you're walking right now and I must say if it continues, it would be an honor to 'report' all indiscretions.
Anyway, nice try with the misdirection and Ad hominem. Since you insist on making a comparison between the two, let's review the facts.
So far there's been nothing but accusations and assumptions by a select few that Capsuleer 'Issler Dainze' has broken the rules and regulations of the EULA/TOS and should be removed from the CSM. No proof available to substantiate this as fact.
So far there's been positive proof established via Video, an apology thread and CCP Dev Blogs stating that Capsuleer 'The Mittani' did indeed break the rules and regulations of the EULA/TOS and as such, was removed from the CSM by his own resignation. Lot's of proof available to substantiate this as fact.
Now for the second part of your reply I see you once again decided to indulge yourself with some selective quoting:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:That in itself negates the validity of these threads and as such, they should all be locked and if started again, forum bans be issued to the players posting those threads.
Obviously selective quoting is an attempt to portray a statement out of context. Let's take a look at my full original statement:
Bottom line: Issler was voted into the CSM by members of this community and has not, I repeat, has not broken any rules or regulations pertaining to the EULA/TOS/NDA. That in itself negates the validity of these threads and as such, they should all be locked and if started again, forum bans be issued to the players posting those threads.
Shian Yang wrote:That is a very Ammarian attitude. Force people to follow your viewpoints and all. No wonder I dislike you so much, because you are an Ammarian control freak at heart.
Why do you betray the freedoms that Mattari have fought for for so many years, capsuleer Crimson? Political discussion, both positive and negative, has a place in our democracy, capsuleer Crimson.
Regards,
Shian Yang
Nice try again but actually I am not trying to force anyone to follow my viewpoint. Obviously that's another incorrect assumption from you. I'm merely stating facts. Also I have a very strong Minmatar attitude. Minmatar fight for freedom, truth and justice. Especially against tyranny and false doctrine perpetrated by biased individuals seeking to dominate others.
By the way, Amarrian is the correct spelling, not Ammarian. And Matari is the correct spelling, not Mattari.
Regards,
DMC
P.S.
Cosmic Fart wrote: Not bumping this thread anymore as I feel it doesn't need the attention it's already gotten.
Very sound advice which I totally agree with. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
821
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Posted - 2012.05.21 06:31:00 -
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Because they can't come up with anything better but to repeat "tears" over and over.
While they're bending over and crying ^__^/ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Shian Yang
182
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Posted - 2012.05.21 07:01:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:So far there's been nothing but accusations and assumptions by a select few that Capsuleer 'Issler Dainze' has broken the rules and regulations of the EULA/TOS and should be removed from the CSM. No proof available to substantiate this as fact.
Greetings disliked capsuleer Crimson,
If you do not threaten to report in ever few posts, nobody would think you would run for mommy's teat when things don't go your way. So, should you wish to shake that stigma - stop threatening people having a discussion.
That said, there is nothing being said relating to violations of CONCORD strictures. At least, I have not seen anyone base it on that.
What I see is people disliking the motives, approaches and actions of capsuleer Dainze and the reflection that has on the noble CSM.
A very different scenario. Perhaps you did not understand this and if I've helped you, glad to have done so.
Regards,
Shian Yang |
Lord Zim
675
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Posted - 2012.05.21 07:09:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:and Ad hominem I don't think that means what you think it does.
DeMichael Crimson wrote:So far there's been nothing but accusations and assumptions by a select few that Capsuleer 'Issler Dainze' has broken the rules and regulations of the EULA/TOS and should be removed from the CSM. No proof available to substantiate this as fact. You mean accusations and assumptions by the means of an alliance mail, which Issler has specifically endorsed as a valid copy?
Sounds like proof to me. |
Shian Yang
182
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Posted - 2012.05.21 07:11:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:You mean accusations and assumptions by the means of an alliance mail, which Issler has specifically endorsed as a valid copy?
Greetings capsuleer Zim,
There have been no proven violations of any CONCORD strictures, right?
Regards,
Shian Yang
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
821
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Posted - 2012.05.21 07:30:00 -
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Shian Yang wrote:Lord Zim wrote:You mean accusations and assumptions by the means of an alliance mail, which Issler has specifically endorsed as a valid copy? Greetings capsuleer Zim, There have been no proven violations of any CONCORD strictures, right? Regards, Shian Yang It's me. I'm the ganker. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
RAP ACTION HERO
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2012.05.21 09:08:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Because they can't come up with anything better but to repeat "tears" over and over. While they're bending over and crying ^__^/ because that's all they are capable of, repeating no u no u i said it first |
cerbus
Caldari Prime Pony Club
61
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Posted - 2012.05.21 09:41:00 -
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Issler Support Club signing in.
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cerbus
Caldari Prime Pony Club
61
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Posted - 2012.05.21 09:43:00 -
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RAP ACTION HERO wrote:The most damning fact is that issler dainze is a full blown supporter of the quick and dirty social gameplay dressup only approach to wis incarna. emotes over wars, pants over ships, enemy to all of lowsec, do we really need this kind of unseemly csm just when ccp is on the right track?
Regardless of the rage there are still paying subscribers who support WIS even if they do it in private.
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Pyotr Kamarovi
EVE University Ivy League
6
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Posted - 2012.05.21 09:55:00 -
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I fail to see the problem here? |
Romar Agent
Ishukone Regional Headquarters
31
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Posted - 2012.05.21 10:47:00 -
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Just Alter wrote:I was reading the other thread about the mail she sent. Somebody summed up the whole problem pretty well: Ranger 1 wrote:[quote=Issler Dainze]I stand stand by it all.
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I won't stand for it from any of the other delegates, and after all of your preaching about it I certainly won't stand for it from you. This is unacceptable. How can a person be so vile? CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm. In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm. Issler should be removed too, if anybody was not convinced by these posts/letters alone then they can search these forum, the proof of issler inadequacy to be a part of the csm is clear. Didn't read the whole thread.
So, does anyone care? |
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Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us
125
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Posted - 2012.05.21 11:03:00 -
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Romar Agent wrote:Just Alter wrote:I was reading the other thread about the mail she sent. Somebody summed up the whole problem pretty well: Ranger 1 wrote:[quote=Issler Dainze]I stand stand by it all.
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I won't stand for it from any of the other delegates, and after all of your preaching about it I certainly won't stand for it from you. This is unacceptable. How can a person be so vile? CCP was able, with reason, to remove the mittani from the csm. In that way they set a precedent: people can be removed from the csm. Issler should be removed too, if anybody was not convinced by these posts/letters alone then they can search these forum, the proof of issler inadequacy to be a part of the csm is clear. Didn't read the whole thread. So, does anyone care?
Nope.
Edit: With a little reflection, I think whats happening here is the goons want us to care. Sooo...ummmm...nope. Don't care. I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Josef Djugashvilis
199
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Posted - 2012.05.21 11:13:00 -
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The more the delightful Issler gets under the skin of the goons, the more I value her contribution to Eve.
Not that I am in the least bit anti-goon, I just like that someone can bother them so much.
You want fries with that? |
Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
994
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Posted - 2012.05.21 12:07:00 -
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your face bothers me more |
Josef Djugashvilis
200
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Posted - 2012.05.21 12:12:00 -
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Blawrf McTaggart wrote:your face bothers me more
So, what do you think a good looking man should look like dearie You want fries with that? |
Lord Zim
681
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Posted - 2012.05.21 12:15:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:your face bothers me more So, what do you think a good looking man should look like dearie Without dreads and with a proper neckbeard. Duh. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
69
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Posted - 2012.05.21 12:40:00 -
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sing with me all ,,,,,,,,,,it's all a load of bollox ! it's all a load of bollox ! it's all a load of bollox ! |
Styx Cyc
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.05.21 17:36:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Styx Cyc wrote:Toasting in a 4chanSwarm Tears thread. the tl;dr version of this thread: Pot. Kettle. Black. First, Goons are from SA, /b/tards are from /b/ Second, see above post.
And again, the difference is...?. A mouthbreathing aspie is still a mouthbreathing aspie regardless of where he posts. |
Spikeflach
Echo's of Liberty Dominatus Atrum Mortis
10
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Posted - 2012.05.21 17:53:00 -
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Frankly I am intrigued by the Superiority Complex people get from being in the large alliances of eve.
Get over it.
A CSM member cannot be removed unless they do something like what The Mittani did.
Please see the word Impeachment.
Please start spending more time playing eve or making suggestions to make eve better. |
Romar Agent
Ishukone Regional Headquarters
31
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Posted - 2012.05.21 19:37:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Blawrf McTaggart wrote:your face bothers me more So, what do you think a good looking man should look like dearie Give him a break, I think that was just a goon cryout for attention |
Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
101
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Posted - 2012.05.21 20:21:00 -
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Spikeflach wrote:Frankly I am intrigued by the Superiority Complex people get from being in the large alliances of eve. Get over it. A CSM member cannot be removed unless they do something like what The Mittani did. Please see the word Impeachment. Please start spending more time playing eve or making suggestions to make eve better.
poasting in support of Issler being removed but not for the thread reason
and nom nom Goonie tears. Its OK when you guys "gray area" but when others do it you IM the GMs eh?
Or start threads like this lol
Adapt or die, HTFU, all that fun **** http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
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