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Uriel Winston
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Posted - 2010.08.21 20:03:00 -
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/signed
all destroyers should have at least 2 Med slots, 1 mwd 1 scram. There is no point to call a ship frigate killer when it cant point it. and no they are not supposed to 1-shot frigates nor all should fly arty thrashers
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D Scan
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Posted - 2010.08.22 15:04:00 -
[182]
Agree with moar T1 hulls.
And why not have T3 go to dessies next?
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Fournone
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Posted - 2010.08.25 03:09:00 -
[183]
dest = fail, any boost is a welcome boost
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Zilberfrid
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Posted - 2010.08.25 04:15:00 -
[184]
The t3 thought I don't support. I think that should be tied to the ship size skill (frig, cruiser, bs) not to the blanket skills (destroyer, battlecruiser) ------------------------------------- I like to fly around and shoot stuff. |
Kogh Ayon
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Posted - 2010.08.25 08:33:00 -
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It is a T1 stuff anyway. T2 assault destoryer will nerf AFs and Interceptors but they are already too weak against neuts,scrambers even just some medium turrets.
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Lemmy Kravitz
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Posted - 2010.08.30 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: Lemmy Kravitz on 30/08/2010 09:05:01 I absolutely agree with this post. But I would like to see these changes applied to a new T2 varient of destroyers known as "Assault Destroyers" No ROF penalty, better pg and cpu, and all the other things you mentioned.
Also I forgot who is the drone heavy race. But who ever it is, drop thier highslots to like 2 or 3. But let em have a drone bay that can have like 8-10 small drones. or something like that.
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Uriel Winston
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Posted - 2010.08.30 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lemmy Kravitz Edited by: Lemmy Kravitz on 30/08/2010 09:05:01 Also I forgot who is the drone heavy race. But who ever it is, drop thier highslots to like 2 or 3. But let em have a drone bay that can have like 8-10 small drones. or something like that.
lol that would be the BEST destroyer, its just makes all other powerless. just think of it, 5 t2 150mm rails + 5 t2 hobs hit orbit at 10km and enjoy the fireworks.
~drones are not for destroyers~
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Glyken Touchon
Independent Alchemists
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Posted - 2010.09.01 20:18:00 -
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Supporting the idea that destroyers need to be serious ships that can actually do what the description says (cormorant is an exception in the pattern of descriptions):
Originally by: catalyst the Catalyst is touted as one of the best anti-frigate platforms out there.
Originally by: thrasher the Thrasher's tremendous turret capabilities and advanced tracking computers allow it to protect its larger counterpart from smaller, faster menaces.
Originally by: coercer the Coercer, a vessel designed specifically to seek and destroy the droves of fast-moving frigate rebels.
One idea to help the rebalancing would be to switch the role bonus from optimal to tracking. This then allows the skill bonuses to be better tailored to the individual race's needs.
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Ishtvaan
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Posted - 2010.09.02 08:52:00 -
[189]
+1
Destroyers deserve much more than only being pulled out of the hangar for salvaging issues...
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chaosjj
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Posted - 2010.09.04 12:08:00 -
[190]
signed
anyone noticed that that while this topic exists for over a YEAR! there is still not a single response from a CCP dev
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Lev Aeris
b.b.k
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Posted - 2010.09.04 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kaltooth
Originally by: Dretzle Omega Cormorant I'd prefer to fit with 8 missile slots, to be honest. Tweak them they can only effectively fit Rocket Launchers and give them a missile range boost, if you have to; that fits in with the anti-frig effect, anyways.
This would be great, but the heretic can already tell you all about the awesomeness of rockets. Soon as they fix that, then maybe we can talk about such a boat.
God please don't take anymore gunboats from the caldari, the cormorant is awesome if you know how to fit it and fly it.
If you want a pve boat, get a drake, don't put those **** weapons on a perfectly good ship.
Also, Not Supporting, Dessies are fine the way they are, you just have to know how to use them.
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William Archer
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Posted - 2010.09.08 21:44:00 -
[192]
yes to all
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Bo Tosh
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Posted - 2010.09.09 08:19:00 -
[193]
Destroyers have needed love for a long time, supported
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Den Sethos
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Posted - 2010.11.16 09:12:00 -
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Destroyers indeed lack the edge they should have over frigates, which is a shame, considering that should be their role.
I agree with the improvement on grid (not being able to fit all railguns on a Cormorant is frustrating...) as well as the removal of the penalty to rate of fire. I would consider a rebalancing of modules as profitable: remove one high slots, add a low or mid-slot, depending on the ship.
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matthiastee
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Posted - 2010.11.16 18:41:00 -
[195]
yeppers
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Antaeus Fantasy
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Posted - 2010.11.21 19:19:00 -
[196]
I think that not only destroyer upgrade is needed. but some faction destroyers too. destroyers can be much more then they are now. like medium assault ships. or stealth guard or ambush ships.
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Yhaerlin
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Posted - 2010.11.24 17:15:00 -
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I support this proposal.
In the Advanced Tutorial, when you get the Destroyer (Coercer) ... I did the mission... couldn't even fit a full complement of T1 Medium Lasers (small)... an AB, tried to mod for Armor Tanking.
I almost lost it.
I did it again in a Punisher, I was afraid to, an Anti-Frigate Destroyer almost lost, what chance would I have in a Frigate? It was like night and day. It's sad when something in it's description states that it is an ANTI-Frigate platform... yet loose to 1 Frigate!
I didn't even know about the "Glass Cannon" train of thought.... but even then, that fails... the Coercer is a Glass Pellet Gun!
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Tyr Aeron
Therapy. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.11.24 19:41:00 -
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I love my gank Catalyst on frigate roams, but to be out DPS'd and out ranged by Dramiels, Daredevils, and some T1 frigs is just, well, pathetic. Glass certainly, but a cannon it is not.
C'mon CCP, give destroyers some love.
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Gallion
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Posted - 2010.11.25 00:38:00 -
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Since I generally love the destroyer.
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mjolnir feaw
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.26 10:51:00 -
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As a young eve player, I tried to fly a catalyst efficiently in Missions or ratting. I really tried. But with low SP destroyer are inferior to a good T1 frig (Kessie...) and later in the game I couldn't find any fight where it would be better than a low-end cruiser. It's cheaper all-right, but I kept repairing/losing them.
I disagree with removing the high sig. A destroyer should be a frigate hunter, but unable to fight bigger ship. It's paper/rock/scissor thing, really.
Catalyst needs Grid upgrades and either removing the ROF penalty or increasing the damage bonus (why not?)
----- " There's no brave in a 5-to-1 fight. Just 5 cowards and a fool. - Perhaps. But it worked didn't it?" |
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JuanCamaney
Xatruch Tech
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Posted - 2010.11.27 20:08:00 -
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+1;
dessies NEED 2 low/mid slots minimum!!!! coercer: to tackle/get in range Corm: fit/dps
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Tyr Aeron
Therapy. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.11.28 18:07:00 -
[202]
BUMP
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Massive Dragon
HAIL DRAGONS
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Posted - 2010.11.28 22:14:00 -
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destroyers are already very strong against ceptors and frigs. i say this having been able to take my thrasher up against 5 ceptors and win comfortably.
you have SOME trouble with a few afs, but even stuff like ishkurs you can deal with just fine in a thrasher.
if any change at all is needed the coercer could use a second mid... but thats it.
not supported.
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Lubomir Penev
Sausages of Truth S I L E N T.
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Posted - 2010.11.29 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: SubLepton
Let's start with a catalyst. We have bonus to falloff, and as a class they get bonus to optimal. So if i shoot rails I will use them in optimal, so the ship bonus is simply wasted. If i use blasters, then the optimal bonus is nearly useless as it gives me only extra 200meters, which is virtually nothing. Conclusion: If it is suppose to be a blaster boat (which it probably is) Change the class bonus to 50% bonus to falloff, and the ships bonus should be changed to bonus to small hybrid turret damage.
I disagree with your points (the falloff bonus is good with rails that have lots of it), and the new VOID will make the optimal bonus a lot better with blasters, which is admittedly pretty meh now.
However your suggestion would make it a better ship.
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Lolkarma
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Posted - 2010.12.03 00:34:00 -
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Supported. CCP, where are you? The CSM voted for buffing destroyers unanimously last year. |
Alias 6322A
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Posted - 2010.12.03 01:20:00 -
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Quote: destroyers are already very strong against ceptors and frigs. i say this having been able to take my thrasher up against 5 ceptors and win comfortably. you have SOME trouble with a few afs, but even stuff like ishkurs you can deal with just fine in a thrasher. if any change at all is needed the coercer could use a second mid... but thats it. not supported.
I notice you mention Thrasher...which the OP mentioned as the one destroyer not being terrible? I personally have PvP'd a thrasher successfully and you are right in that they carry out their intended role as a fast-frigate killer. The other destroyers don't.
Support for finding a way to make Destroyers worthwhile again. (Since the Noctis will soon kill them off anyways, except as a poor-man's salvager now.)
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napolion II
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Posted - 2011.01.04 11:25:00 -
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Yea, destroyers
DESTROY, DESTROY'ers
I can't see salvagers in there any place, let me look again
If i wanted to destroy something, what ship should i use, i need something with dps, and more dps, and a pod.
Hmm, cruiser it is then
How about medium guns, or large guns and no shields or armer, that would do, oh and before hulkageddon please.
Thanks in advance.
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Henry Haphorn
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2011.01.04 18:45:00 -
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/supported
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Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.01.04 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Massive Dragon destroyers are already very strong against ceptors and frigs. i say this having been able to take my thrasher up against 5 ceptors and win comfortably.
you have SOME trouble with a few afs, but even stuff like ishkurs you can deal with just fine in a thrasher.
if any change at all is needed the coercer could use a second mid... but thats it.
not supported.
thrasher, that the prolem. Thanks for the bump dudes.
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