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Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
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Posted - 2012.05.20 07:09:00 -
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from http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.ca/2012/05/hulkageddon-v-sec-status-as-punishment.html
For all those empire dwellers who decry suicide ganking as being punishment free, they really need to do some sec status farming. It is the most boring gaming activity I've ever engaged in. (And I've done some ******* boring **** in MMOs, I did play World of Warcraft, after all.)
Two weeks ago I podded a Mackinaw pilot. I shouldn't have. But the mood to do so struck me. So I did. Big mistake. Dropped from -2.7 security status straight to -4.54.
So I've been ratting. But I can barely stand to log in to do it. In that intervening time, I've climbed back up to -3.77. I even took a moment to train Fast Talk III. But it's still such a slow slog. (Didn't CCP mention at Fanfest the possibility of buying our sec status back? Make it happen!)
So, for those ganked, thinking we don't get punished. Remember security status loss. It's a damned ***** to restore.
And yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah. Yes, I know some folks are perfectly happy and capable of ganking in highsec with a -10.0 security status. Yes, my known alt is working on getting into an Orca (17 days left.) And a new alt is working on getting into a covops ship (12 days remaining.) At that point, I'll be less worried about security status, but I doubt I'll ever give it up entirely. I still enjoy simple easy access to highsec.
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Torneach
Emrys Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.05.20 07:10:00 -
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Your blog.
It's getting old. |
Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
50
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Posted - 2012.05.20 07:11:00 -
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awsome you know how to rat and kill defenseless ships
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1469
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Posted - 2012.05.20 07:13:00 -
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CCP should detach sec status grinding from rats and missions.... and attach it to player sec grinding.
Gank hulks to go negative on sec, gank negative sec players to get some positive sec back. |
Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
868
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Posted - 2012.05.20 07:13:00 -
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Ziranda Hakuli wrote:awsome you know how to rat and kill defenseless ships Thank you. There's a bit of pre-planning that goes into every gank. :) The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |
Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
868
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Posted - 2012.05.20 07:15:00 -
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Torneach wrote:Your blog.
It's getting old. Thanks. Yes. It's nearly 10 months old now. Cross your fingers that it lasts as long as I play. :)
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Grizilk Chanlin
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2012.05.20 08:56:00 -
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I really wish you would stop self-promoting your blog. |
Vito Antonio
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.20 09:06:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:CCP should detach sec status grinding from rats and missions.... and attach it to player sec grinding.
Gank hulks to go negative on sec, gank negative sec players to get some positive sec back. So I can just pod my -10 alts and get my sec status back up in 10 minutes? Awesome. That's what I did in UO anyway. |
ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
664
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Posted - 2012.05.20 10:44:00 -
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Grizilk Chanlin wrote:I really wish you would stop self-promoting your blog. Everyone does, you are not alone I just gotta go fast! |
ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
664
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Posted - 2012.05.20 10:46:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Torneach wrote:Your blog.
It's getting old. Thanks. Yes. It's nearly 10 months old now. Cross your fingers that it lasts as long as I play. :) 10 months of you trying to grow your ego? Feels like years I just gotta go fast! |
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knulla
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.05.20 10:50:00 -
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blogs is so 2000 and late. |
Kiandoshia
Gnampf Inc.
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Posted - 2012.05.20 12:05:00 -
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I don't want to take any sides here but throwaway alts gonna be thrown away?
It doesn't take long for 2-3 people to get alts ready to gank hulks >_> |
Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
26
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Posted - 2012.05.20 12:11:00 -
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You been using the trick of grind sec status that involves killing 1 rat per system? I understand it goes much faster that way. |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
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Posted - 2012.05.20 12:54:00 -
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Dawn Flare wrote:You been using the trick of grind sec status that involves killing 1 rat per system? I understand it goes much faster that way.
Probably can't just from system to system because of AFK cloakers. The Unified Inventory system for Inferno, which I would recommend everybody tryon SiSi, is going to be the next 'Door' for CCP. What it adds is worthless when we lose so much functionality.-á |
Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
27
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Posted - 2012.05.20 12:58:00 -
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MadMuppet wrote:Dawn Flare wrote:You been using the trick of grind sec status that involves killing 1 rat per system? I understand it goes much faster that way. Probably can't just from system to system because of AFK cloakers. Thats stupid. If you are doing it in lowsec you can do it perfectly fine in a pvp fit ship.
And if you are doing it in null, you should already know how to handle it(ignore them, you are not gonna be in system long enough for them to organize an attack)
I can't believe people are polluting every single thread with this AFK cloaker nonsense. |
Ohanka
The Lone Patrol Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.05.20 14:08:00 -
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Bad blog.
all your posts are just spam advertising. |
MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
374
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Posted - 2012.05.20 14:19:00 -
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Example: Asuka Solo wrote:CCP should detach sec status grinding from rats and missions.... and attach it to player sec grinding.
Gank hulks to go negative on sec, gank negative sec players to get some positive sec back.
This is an incredibly nearsighted solution. People will just farm a pods outside a clone station to get their sec status back. It becomes a free solution, what is the risk?
The Unified Inventory system for Inferno, which I would recommend everybody tryon SiSi, is going to be the next 'Door' for CCP. What it adds is worthless when we lose so much functionality.-á |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
477
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Posted - 2012.05.20 14:41:00 -
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Just for that^ CCP should [strike]not[/strike] never ever implement the "buy your sec stat back".
I mean where would the suffering be in that?
Some people have just too much money and I can imagine a Goon swarm alliance just easily putting up a fund paying the "bail out for free out of jail" for all its members that did something 'naughty'.
Ps: anyone knows the code for strike through? :o
Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |
Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
871
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Posted - 2012.05.20 14:48:00 -
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Kiandoshia wrote:I don't want to take any sides here but throwaway alts gonna be thrown away?
It doesn't take long for 2-3 people to get alts ready to gank hulks >_> I think hiding behind alts is kinda lame. Do the crime, be known for it.
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Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
871
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Posted - 2012.05.20 14:49:00 -
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Dawn Flare wrote:You been using the trick of grind sec status that involves killing 1 rat per system? I understand it goes much faster that way. Of course. Still, not that fast though. Sometimes can take 10 minutes in a belt-heavy system just to find a battleship. :) The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |
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Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
477
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Posted - 2012.05.20 14:50:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:I think hiding behind alts is kinda lame. Do the crime, be known for it.
Not in the EVE I play... Who needs television when you have EVE? EVE drama, best drama. |
Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
871
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Posted - 2012.05.20 14:53:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:I think hiding behind alts is kinda lame. Do the crime, be known for it.
Not in the EVE I play... Oh, I know everybody does it. I'm not suggesting they stop or that the game change. It's still lame. But it's not a serious problem with the game or anything.
Hiding behind alts is just not for me. Other people can do whatever the hell they want.
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
51
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Posted - 2012.05.20 14:56:00 -
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It takes ~30 minutes to get from -10 to 0...
A huge punishment. |
Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
871
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:06:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:It takes ~30 minutes to get from -10 to 0... A huge punishment. You hacking the database?
The fastest bump you're getting per kill is 0.25% (and that's if you have Fast Talk V). To get from -10.0 to 0.0 would require ~275 battleship kills. One per system.
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Widow Cain
0
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:18:00 -
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Ziranda Hakuli wrote:awsome you know how to rat and kill defenseless ships
If these people were anything but losers they would not be having a 5th year on the same ship, they choose miners because it is easy kills.
It is just lame, the first year it was kinda funny, but now it has become lame.
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Dawn Flare
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
31
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:25:00 -
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Widow Cain wrote:Ziranda Hakuli wrote:awsome you know how to rat and kill defenseless ships
If these people were anything but losers they would not be having a 5th year on the same ship, they choose miners because it is easy kills. It is just lame, the first year it was kinda funny, but now it has become lame. They originally chose miners because :bots:
The tears from those first couple bot targetting hulkageddons guaranteed that the even is now a permanent fixture, because tears are delicious. |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor Federal Consensus Outreach
907
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:25:00 -
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I'm sorry, is it now the gankers expecting sympathy for a mechanic they believe is unfair?
Oh, this is just too good. Mane 614
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Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
675
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:29:00 -
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Sec status is a joke, ***** all you want but it infact is barely a hindrance. It really should lock you out of highsec, so that even your pod can't get it...but if thats not applicable how about a higher tax added to all your transactions; basicly you pay a premium to get your gear "off the black market" and the lower you go the higer it is. This solution is better, because if you still want to get your pod back in to highsec you cannot just avoid the risk of going lower then -10...since it stops all together and is pretty risk free if you think about it. And the trading in tags...stupid ******* idea for CCP since its basicly buy sec status back unless the cost is like some of the LP store conversions...crappy...thought I think trading in aurum is a better solution ...hehe CCP needs some worthile microtransactions and I know people would pay real cash and/or use PLEX to get sec status back. |
Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
873
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:36:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:I'm sorry, is it now the gankers expecting sympathy for a mechanic they believe is unfair?
Oh, this is just too good. I never said it was unfair ... simply that it is a hefty punishment and the carebears want us to be punished. You all seem to think there's no downside to ganking in highsec.
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Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
873
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Posted - 2012.05.20 15:38:00 -
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Aqriue wrote:... but if thats not applicable how about a higher tax added to all your transactions. Alts. No hindrance at all.
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