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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.07.08 20:59:00 -
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Hmm, maybe I'll just stick to building myself a carrier for now.
-/ the fighting republicans /- |
Hellvetica Agora
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Posted - 2009.07.08 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Asperoth Edited by: Asperoth on 08/07/2009 20:57:07 Don't forget that the CSAA is around 850,000 m3 in size. You have to haul it to your 0.0 build destination in a freighter.
Whats a CSAA?
And people stop knocking on my EVE door no one is getting paid for a job i can just as well do myself.
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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.07.08 22:00:00 -
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Capital Ship Assembly Array, yes, I've heard that. Would be a PITA to move to 0.0 unless you got lucky with a wormhole route. Highsec to 0.0 wormholes do open sometimes.
-/ the fighting republicans /- |
Ancallan
Petals of Derketo
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Posted - 2009.07.09 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Capital Ship Assembly Array, yes, I've heard that. Would be a PITA to move to 0.0 unless you got lucky with a wormhole route. Highsec to 0.0 wormholes do open sometimes.
I don't know to what degree the OP is willing do do things themself, but this seems like a great candidate for contracting some transport specialists. Not volunteering! Just thinking that moving it in such a way could be easier, safer, while still maintaining the DIY mentality.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Liberi Fatalius Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 02:38:00 -
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lol
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ThaDollaGenerale
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.09 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Hellvetica Agora
Originally by: Asperoth Edited by: Asperoth on 08/07/2009 20:57:07 Don't forget that the CSAA is around 850,000 m3 in size. You have to haul it to your 0.0 build destination in a freighter.
Whats a CSAA?
Quoting this for truth.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Corp 1 Allstars
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Posted - 2009.07.09 03:51:00 -
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dear lord Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Hellvetica Agora
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Posted - 2009.07.09 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale
Originally by: Hellvetica Agora
Originally by: Asperoth Edited by: Asperoth on 08/07/2009 20:57:07 Don't forget that the CSAA is around 850,000 m3 in size. You have to haul it to your 0.0 build destination in a freighter.
Whats a CSAA?
Quoting this for truth.
Don't you have to go exploit some game mechanic.
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Ulic Trask
Cascading Failure Unity Thru Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 07:00:00 -
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I would be willing to offer invention services on your hel bpc, Why just build a mothership when you can build the t2 cloaky cloaky version. In fact its so cloaky I can promise you'll never see the bpc again.
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Briana Bank5
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Posted - 2009.07.09 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ulic Trask I would be willing to offer invention services on your hel bpc, Why just build a mothership when you can build the t2 cloaky cloaky version. In fact its so cloaky I can promise you'll never see the bpc again.
This.
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Fobiah
Altruism. Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.07.09 15:59:00 -
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This thread is so liyf.
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Vladimir Tinakin
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.09 16:25:00 -
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Wow, you're not getting what people are telling you. Tell you what, just to ram home the soul-crushing realization that you're setting yourself up for massive failure, here's the full process in bite-sized pieces:
Step 0: Create an alliance. This requires Megacorp Management 5 and 1 billion isk. There are services available to create the alliance for you and then hand you control--check the sell orders subforum.
Step 1: Pick a 0.0 system. Anchoring a Capital Ship Assembly Array (hey, those letters look familiar...) requires holding at least Sov 1, which can only be done in 0.0 space. Factors to consider in what system to choose is the number of moons, the present owner, ease of access to empire space, how frequently travelled it is, etc.
Step 2: Deploy enough Large Control Towers (360 million isk each for the vanilla types) so that your alliance has more than anyone else in the system. Ideally, you'll own most of the moons to prevent anyone else from "spamming" control away from you--they'll have to destroy your towers to break your sov.
Step 3: Make sure all your towers have fuel, strontium, are armed, and have ammo loaded in all the guns. Each tower will take about 3-5 hours to set up, depending on how tough your defenses are. Make sure the claim sovereignty box is ticked.
Step 4: After 7 days, your towers will claim Sov 1 for you! You can now fly the slowest ship in eve--an utterly defenseless freighter--through pirate-riddled lowsec and 0.0 space holding your 1 billion isk CSAA. Assuming you make it, you can then anchor it at one of your control towers.
Step 5: If you've made it this far, congrats! Now all you have to do is repeat step 4 again several times more! You have two options: build the components (over 2000 of them, at 10,000 m3 each!) in empire and freighter them down, or anchor component assembly arrays and freighter in the raw minerals to build them at your tower. Either way, its a bunch more freighter trips.
Step 5a: If you have 30 or so billion burning a hole in your wallet, you can pare down the number of freighter runs by buying a minmatar station egg and deploying it (approx 2-3 freighter trips). This will enable you to simply jump in carriers and reprocess them for components, so you just have to freighter from station to tower.
Step 6: Once all the components listed on your BPC are loaded into the CSAA, put the BPC into the array and start the job! Now you just have another few weeks to wait!
Step 7: Make sure all your towers are online, fuelled, stronted, loaded with ammo for this entire time. You need to maintain sov control over the system.
Step 8: After a few weeks pass, you can deliver the job. Congrats! I recommend anchoring a Capital Ship Maintenance Array so you can board it gracefully and not chase after it. Also, so you can fit modules on it--you can't dock a mothership. You'll need an alt to fly you jump fuel. And another alt with a cynosural field generator wherever you need to go (or the waypoints in between) so you can simply leave the system--moms can't use gates. You can leave the ship to dock and update your clone or whatever, but then anyone can jump into your ship and steal it (hopefully you have decent control tower passwords!)
Oh, and at any time, your towers can be attacked and reinforced. Reinforcing the tower with the CSAA means that the job is paused. And if the tower is destroyed, the CSAA can be unanchored/stolen or just popped, losing all material within.
If someone has sovereignty in a system, anchoring a tower means that everyone in their alliance gets a nice mail saying "x alliance has anchored a tower in y system, have a nice day".
You can't claim sov in NPC controlled space (guristas, blood raiders, angel cartel, sisters of eve, etc), so forget those systems entirely.
So if you do all this, avoid certain death at every point during the process, you too can own a mothership! |
Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.07.09 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Tinakin So if you do all this, avoid certain death at every point during the process, you too can own a mothership!
Thanks, that's very helpful info! To be fair, the OP could cut out several of those steps by joining an alliance with sovereignty. He'd have to put up and fuel a POS of his own to hold the CSAA, but presumably the alliance would already have sovereignty-claiming towers established. They'd have an intel channel and might be able to arrange a fleet to cover the freighter's trip in. He could do all the mining there in 0.0, and maybe even assemble the components themselves in an outpost.
-/ the fighting republicans /- |
Crexa
g guild Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.07.10 03:08:00 -
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I suggest you join an alliance, one with 0.0, preferably one with a sizable amount of 0.0 and are capable of defending it. Wait a couple of months to get to know them, then suggest the idea of construction to whatever corp your in, in that alliance.
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Saxton Hale
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Posted - 2009.07.10 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Capital Ship Assembly Array, yes, I've heard that. Would be a PITA to move to 0.0 unless you got lucky with a wormhole route. Highsec to 0.0 wormholes do open sometimes.
Highsec wormholes can't fit any ships large enough to carry a CSAA.
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Fobiah
Altruism. Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.07.10 18:01:00 -
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Thanks for doing what I was unwilling, Vlad.
So did the OP sell his BPC yet?
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Hellvetica Agora
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Posted - 2009.07.11 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Fobiah Thanks for doing what I was unwilling, Vlad.
So did the OP sell his BPC yet?
Pffh no i bought a nidhog one as well.
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Lord Fitz
Project Amargosa
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Posted - 2009.07.11 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Saxton Hale
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Capital Ship Assembly Array, yes, I've heard that. Would be a PITA to move to 0.0 unless you got lucky with a wormhole route. Highsec to 0.0 wormholes do open sometimes.
Highsec wormholes can't fit any ships large enough to carry a CSAA.
Except that they rebalanced freighters so they were smaller than carriers / dreads / rorquals so that they can in-fact go through some highsec wormholes. Only freighters can carry CSAAs so, yes some highsec wormholes can fit ships that can carry CSAAs. Highsec wormholes can't fit ships that aren't supposed to be in highsec, that's the reason for their design that way.
But typically you would use a jump bridge or a friendly titan bridge to get components from the edge of 0.0 or lowsec into where you're building your supercap.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.07.11 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Hellvetica Agora Pffh no i bought a nidhog one as well.
So is this confirming you have no clue?
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Caelum Mortuos
Gallente Zero G Research and Development
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Posted - 2009.07.11 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Hellvetica Agora
Originally by: Asperoth Edited by: Asperoth on 08/07/2009 20:57:07 Don't forget that the CSAA is around 850,000 m3 in size. You have to haul it to your 0.0 build destination in a freighter.
Whats a CSAA?
And people stop knocking on my EVE door no one is getting paid for a job i can just as well do myself.
Only you can't do the job yourself so....yeah
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Thenoran
Caldari 22ND Myridian Strip Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.07.12 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Hellvetica Agora
Originally by: Asperoth Edited by: Asperoth on 08/07/2009 20:57:07 Don't forget that the CSAA is around 850,000 m3 in size. You have to haul it to your 0.0 build destination in a freighter.
Whats a CSAA?
Capital Ship Assembly Array. The thing you need to build that Mothership.
Which means you need a corp, a large POS, fuel, sovereignty 4 and serious hauling power and pray it gets assembled before the POS is shot.
Try a Carrier first. ------------------------ Low-sec is like sailing along the coast of Somalia...
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NokNok
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.07.12 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: NokNok on 12/07/2009 14:06:54
Originally by: Hellvetica Agora Fail Event of the Day:
Anonymous Alliance representative charging me 12 bill to build my Hel for me.
[ 2009.07.08 03:46:38 ] Davide Montanegru > i cant disclose who i am, for safety purposes, but i will say im part of the northern coalition [ 2009.07.08 03:47:00 ] Davide Montanegru > if you dont know who we are, we have lived in safety inthe north for many years [ 2009.07.08 03:47:14 ] Davide Montanegru > we recently eradicated our only real enemy, triumvirate
The stories of our demise are grossly exaggerated Also the only NC entity who hasn't lost it's space in "many years" is Morsus Mihi.
Just a little hint, don't build your own Mothership, contact Chribba or Darknesss and just buy one. That's the safest way. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=603132
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.07.13 09:07:00 -
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Quote:
If someone has sovereignty in a system, anchoring a tower means that everyone in their alliance gets a nice mail saying "x alliance has anchored a tower in y system, have a nice day".
Yeah, and EVERYONE in the whole alliance can see that mail, not just cEOs, so enjoy having hundreds of people really interested at giving your towers a peek :D
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AltBier
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.07.13 13:12:00 -
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On a related note, I'd like to build an aircraft carrier in real life. I've started looking at scrap metal dealers to get the raw materials. Any advice?
Quote: The only honor in PVP is that which you bring with you.
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Rhohan
Minmatar Pelennor Swarm
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Posted - 2009.07.13 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: AltBier On a related note, I'd like to build an aircraft carrier in real life. I've started looking at scrap metal dealers to get the raw materials. Any advice?
Buy a used one.
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Joe Starbreaker
The Fighting Republicans
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Posted - 2009.07.14 00:22:00 -
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Hi, my name is Mahmoud and I'd like to build myself a nuclear bomb IRL. Can I do it myself? Will any of the major alliances put a stop to my designs?
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Ancallan
Petals of Derketo
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Posted - 2009.07.14 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Hi, my name is Mahmoud and I'd like to build myself a nuclear bomb IRL. Can I do it myself? Will any of the major alliances put a stop to my designs?
According to Stargate: Atlantis, yes you can!
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cillisia
Caldari Domination. THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2009.07.14 12:20:00 -
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good troll
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Tadesae
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Posted - 2009.07.14 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Hellvetica Agora
Originally by: Fobiah
Originally by: Hellvetica Agora
Naysayers who will point out that i dont have enough SP can STFU Im going to build this thing no matter what the cost.
Did someone not give you enough validation as a child? Or do you just want to build it yourself so when you lose it in your 1-man fleet, you feel the REAL loss, because you built your baby from literal-scratch?
Why put yourself through extra expense and stress when you can just buy one cheaper than doing your 1-man-HELscapade.
Win or Fail i can claim to do what no one else has done (to my knowledge). Besides im the only one i trust with my BPC and 12bil in Isk. For those of you less inclined to work you can do the WoW option and buy it.
The WOW option sounds like something you're more used to.
One of the best things about EVE is that there are so many things you can do that are VERY difficult. It always gives you something else to strive to do. That said... Those VERY Difficult things are not really intended for you to do alone or with just 3 months in the game. If its your goal to do this, plan on working for years and making some friendships with other players with similar goals.
If you want to "do it yourself", I hope you have better social skills than you've showed here because you will need to run an alliance and gain other players respect and confidence. If these things seem imposible you should either think of downscaling your plans or going back to WOW.
If you try to do this now, assuming you are as socially inept as you've come across here I give you about a 99.999999% chance of failing and ragequiting.
But seriously... Good luck!
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Ellmar
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Posted - 2009.07.14 15:14:00 -
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Just contract me the mats and 4bil and I'll build it for you.
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