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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.22 00:01:00 -
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Derglas Servekti wrote:Dragon Outlaw wrote:Why dont we just ask CCP to RESET all of Eve? Everyone back to noob status in an NPC corp and we start all over from scratch. ...just a thought!! Well, if the goons have really won EVE, that's what we're supposed to do, isn't it? When somebody wins a game, you pack it up, set up a new game, and start going again. Of course, BOB had won EVE a few years ago, hadn't they?
Good news when a beta version is finished is that you're now about to start playing serious stuff. |
Degren
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
341
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Posted - 2012.05.22 00:07:00 -
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Smuggling technetium from CFC, Jita average price per unit.
Can meet in Jita 4-4.
Please evemail amount required and send 2 bil in advance per jump freighter (will be deducted from total purchase, just need it to cover risks).
It may take some time to deliver, please be patient. :) |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.05.22 00:21:00 -
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Degren wrote:Smuggling technetium from CFC, Jita average price per unit.
Can meet in Jita 4-4.
Please evemail amount required and send 2 bil in advance per jump freighter (will be deducted from total purchase, just need it to cover risks).
It may take some time to deliver, please be patient.
Please mail me your route and alts name so I can scout and eventually give reps if something turns out bad
Of course this service will cost you a small amount of isk, very small. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
852
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Posted - 2012.05.22 01:00:00 -
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Derglas Servekti wrote:Dragon Outlaw wrote:Why dont we just ask CCP to RESET all of Eve? Everyone back to noob status in an NPC corp and we start all over from scratch. ...just a thought!! Well, if the goons have really won EVE, that's what we're supposed to do, isn't it? When somebody wins a game, you pack it up, set up a new game, and start going again. Of course, BOB had won EVE a few years ago, hadn't they? Ah yes, BoB winning EVE. That was a golden age led by the best PvPers around.
And then bees... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
c4 t
Push Pharmaceuticals Push Interstellar Network
29
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Posted - 2012.05.22 01:08:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:Someone put in the time and effort and basically won at EVE but it wasn't me therefore CCP must remove the fruits of their labour from them.
Seems reasonable.
Actually that doesn't seem really reasonable when I give it thought. |
Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.05.22 01:09:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Like how you Immed the Gms when ppl started shooting YOU at Burn Jita? Yeah just like that. You mean "when people exploited bugs"?
Neat though, how they get instant fix by the GMs an the rest of us wait days or weeks is more the part Im talking about
Landree wrote:We have the Tech. OTEC fixes the price. We use the isk we make to fun terrorism. Isn't Eve fun!
You guys should totally run all Goons for each of the chairs next CSM. Itd be funny
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1332510#post1332510
As that guy explains, Moon Goo is passive income, and will be fixed.
Isnt that what CCP Soundwave is trying to do or is it everything except what you guys do? http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
419
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Posted - 2012.05.22 01:24:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:That's what happened in Incursions... at first they were death traps & a few put in the effort to crack them & now CCP removed the fruits of their labour from them.
yeah figuring out how to fit ships and use logistics is clearly a daunting task, much like the effort required to secure tech moons eh |
admiral root
Red Galaxy Persona Non Gratis
66
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Posted - 2012.05.22 02:26:00 -
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Will CCP technetium be posting to introduce themselves, or does the OP need to borrow some punctuation? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
852
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Posted - 2012.05.22 02:51:00 -
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admiral root wrote:Will CCP technetium be posting to introduce themselves, or does the OP need to borrow some punctuation? CCP technetium !!!!!!!!!!! you mean Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.05.22 03:28:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Like how you Immed the Gms when ppl started shooting YOU at Burn Jita? Yeah just like that. You mean "when people exploited bugs"? Neat though, how they get instant fix by the GMs an the rest of us wait days or weeks is more the part Im talking about Landree wrote:We have the Tech. OTEC fixes the price. We use the isk we make to fun terrorism. Isn't Eve fun! You guys should totally run all Goons for each of the chairs next CSM. Itd be funny https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1332510#post1332510As that guy explains, Moon Goo is passive income, and will be fixed. Isnt that what CCP Soundwave is trying to do or is it everything except what you guys do?
Everyone with half a brain has been pushing to end the tech nerf since before it was introduced. Especially Goons, and for the reasons we are now demonstrating for the galaxy. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
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Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.05.22 03:29:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:admiral root wrote:Will CCP technetium be posting to introduce themselves, or does the OP need to borrow some punctuation? CCP technetium !!!!!!!!!!! you mean
"CCP technetium !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" will be my name if i ever get to work at CCP. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
knulla
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2012.05.22 04:22:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:So now all moons are officially in the hands of the cartel that is pretty much now untouchable.
CCP if you wont do surprise tech nerf tomorrow you suck.
If you ever "win" at what you do in EVE I hope you can agree that CCP must nerf the **** out of you. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
853
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Posted - 2012.05.22 04:23:00 -
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knulla wrote:JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:So now all moons are officially in the hands of the cartel that is pretty much now untouchable.
CCP if you wont do surprise tech nerf tomorrow you suck.
If you ever "win" at what you do in EVE I hope you can agree that CCP must nerf the **** out of you. That's not the same at all ~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.05.22 04:53:00 -
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It is a good thing I didn't miss this post or I wouldn't even have known we have a technetium cartel! Go us! It was a good thing you posted or CCP might have never even noticed.
Also, apparently defending vast swathes of internet space is considered passive income. I never even realized. |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.05.22 05:15:00 -
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JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:So now all moons are officially in the hands of the cartel that is pretty much now untouchable.
CCP if you wont do surprise tech nerf tomorrow you suck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUl9NPPMx8s Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
199
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Posted - 2012.05.22 05:17:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:Someone put in the time and effort and basically won at EVE but it wasn't me therefore CCP must remove the fruits of their labour from them.
Seems reasonable.
You control most of Null Sec?
No?
Then why do you get so much money?
Somebody place a lot of Tech II BPOs..... I mean Tech Moons..... in your area?
How nice for you. |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.05.22 05:18:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Tinnin Sylph wrote:Someone put in the time and effort and basically won at EVE but it wasn't me therefore CCP must remove the fruits of their labour from them.
Seems reasonable. You control most of Null Sec? No? Then why do you get so much money? Somebody place a lot of Tech II BPOs..... I mean Tech Moons..... in your area? How nice for you.
Funny enough, the Tech Moon rebalance took place while we were still in Delve.
Edit: So I guess technically yes, CCP did put a lot of tech moons in our area. We just didn't know we would end up there a year later. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
199
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Posted - 2012.05.22 05:29:00 -
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Zhihatsu wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Tinnin Sylph wrote:Someone put in the time and effort and basically won at EVE but it wasn't me therefore CCP must remove the fruits of their labour from them.
Seems reasonable. You control most of Null Sec? No? Then why do you get so much money? Somebody place a lot of Tech II BPOs..... I mean Tech Moons..... in your area? How nice for you. Funny enough, the Tech Moon rebalance took place while we were still in Delve. Edit: So I guess technically yes, CCP did put a lot of tech moons in our area. We just didn't know we would end up there a year later.
And this broken mechanic has not been changed in how many years?
Eve subscribers began plummeting and they still refused to change it.
The developers seem quite committed to you having a lot of money from PASSIVE INCOME.
Maybe they should have fixed that instead of wasting time with datacores.
I can't imagine why they didn't. |
Zhihatsu
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
41
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Posted - 2012.05.22 05:34:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Zhihatsu wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Tinnin Sylph wrote:Someone put in the time and effort and basically won at EVE but it wasn't me therefore CCP must remove the fruits of their labour from them.
Seems reasonable. You control most of Null Sec? No? Then why do you get so much money? Somebody place a lot of Tech II BPOs..... I mean Tech Moons..... in your area? How nice for you. Funny enough, the Tech Moon rebalance took place while we were still in Delve. Edit: So I guess technically yes, CCP did put a lot of tech moons in our area. We just didn't know we would end up there a year later. And this broken mechanic has not been changed in how many years? Eve subscribers began plummeting and they still refused to change it. The developers seem quite committed to you having a lot of money from PASSIVE INCOME. Maybe they should have fixed that instead of wasting time with datacores. I can't imagine why they didn't.
Well I suppose that is why they are working on a good system to replace it then.
The Tech bottleneck happened in Late 2009, we lost Delve shortly after that, and chilled in Syndicate. After that we crashed with our friends TCF in Dek and worked with the NC until they fell apart, then took control of Dek. Honestly, none of that was really planned in order for us to get control of all that sweet, sweet Tech. It just sort of fell into our laps as we did our thing.
We've known that the Tech bottleneck was going to be a problem, and that it wouldn't take much for a monopoly on Technetium to happen. In fact, that was one of our original arguments against it. CCP didn't listen to our advice and now look where we are at.
It's been broken for around 2 1/2 years. Number of calories in a cubic lightyear of ham http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=number+of+calories+in+a+cubic+lightyear+of+ham |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.05.22 05:44:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote: And this broken mechanic has not been changed in how many years?
Eve subscribers began plummeting and they still refused to change it.
Citation needed.
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Boogie Jones
The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore
20
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Posted - 2012.05.22 05:45:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote: We've known that the Tech bottleneck was going to be a problem, and that it wouldn't take much for a monopoly on Technetium to happen. In fact, that was one of our original arguments against it. CCP didn't listen to our advice and now look where we are at.
It's what happens when the one person who wanted and had the power to change it, gets removed from his chair.
You're blind if you don't see how creating this cartel will make it worth changing. -FREE XOLVE
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Lord Zim
687
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Posted - 2012.05.22 06:41:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:And this broken mechanic has not been changed in how many years? This "broken mechanic" was put into place in late 2009, after a few months of the entire playerbase which was in the know telling CCP it was making a huge mistake.
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Eve subscribers began plummeting and they still refused to change it. Wait, what? You're trying to tell us "the eve subscribers" are unsubscribing due to us having lots of tech? My, that's interesting.
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:The developers seem quite committed to you having a lot of money from PASSIVE INCOME. You mean PI?
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Maybe they should have fixed that instead of wasting time with datacores.
I can't imagine why they didn't. You know, paranoia's a hell of a disease. You should get some drugs to fix that for you. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
853
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Posted - 2012.05.22 06:54:00 -
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Boogie Jones wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote: We've known that the Tech bottleneck was going to be a problem, and that it wouldn't take much for a monopoly on Technetium to happen. In fact, that was one of our original arguments against it. CCP didn't listen to our advice and now look where we are at.
It's what happens when the one person who wanted and had the power to change it, gets removed from his chair. You're blind if you don't see how creating this cartel will make it worth changing. The best way to get something nerfed is to be obnoxious about using the hell out of it.
Like our super rifters, for example ... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Shian Yang
193
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Posted - 2012.05.22 07:39:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:The developers seem quite committed to you having a lot of money from PASSIVE INCOME.
Greetings capsuleer Tassik,
I am not familiar with the detailed operation of null security and what happens there; but to harvest from a moon are they not required to hold the space, control it and protect it against all who would take it from them? Are there not alliance level negotiations, deals being brokered and so forth that keeps diplomats busy and employed?
So to be blunt.
What the **** is so passive about it?
And if it were passive, why don't you just saunter up and grab one for yourself? It should be easy if it was "passive income", right?
No regard for you,
Shian Yang
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
421
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Posted - 2012.05.22 07:43:00 -
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Shian Yang wrote:but to harvest from a moon are they not required to hold the space nope eh |
Lord Zim
688
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Posted - 2012.05.22 07:48:00 -
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Shian Yang wrote:but to harvest from a moon are they not required to hold the space This is not correct.
Shian Yang wrote:control it and protect it against all who would take it from them? This is correct, however. |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
462
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Posted - 2012.05.22 07:50:00 -
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Doctor Benway Kado wrote: and not get him thrown off this time. Just a thought.
Yes, he was an innocent bystander. There was absolutely no reason as why he was removed in the first place.
*sarcasm off*
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Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
421
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Posted - 2012.05.22 07:55:00 -
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Killer Gandry wrote:There was absolutely no reason as why he was removed in the first place.
a bunch of publords moaning on the forums and flooding the inboxes of every halfassed gaming media site? eh |
Shian Yang
193
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Posted - 2012.05.22 07:56:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Shian Yang wrote:but to harvest from a moon are they not required to hold the space This is not correct. Shian Yang wrote:control it and protect it against all who would take it from them? This is correct, however.
Greetings capsuleer Zim,
So ... in essence you are saying it is even easier for capsuleer Tassik to capture a moon all for himself? He doesn't even need to hold the space to use it?
Incredible.
I am looking forward to him explaining how his rich source of "passive" income is paying off for him.
Friendly greetings,
Shian Yang |
Lord Zim
688
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Posted - 2012.05.22 08:02:00 -
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Shian Yang wrote:So ... in essence you are saying it is even easier for capsuleer Tassik to capture a moon all for himself? He doesn't even need to hold the space to use it? Depends on what you put in the word "control". He must "control" the space while his POS is being set up, and he must "control" the space when it's being reinforced or (more likely) right after it comes out of reinforced. We're not talking about hard mechanical control (like in the dominion suck system ... err, I mean sov system), but a much more fluid, and much more time-limited, system control through a very time-specific superiority of firepower. |
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