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Tekitha
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Posted - 2012.05.21 22:23:00 -
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For the record, SOTF mandate for today was as follows ...
assist WBR in holding their home system Kamela, the reason we got involved is simple. It's no secret that WBR and SOTF run joint ops regularly, providing both subcap support and heavy cap support for each other on a regular basis, it would severely diminish our capabilites to support each other in such a way if either of us were to lose our home systems, we could not allow this to happen.
Our engagement protocol for the op was clear, we were flying mostly guardians and supporting only by way of logistics, we also had one or two combat ships who were only given the green light to shoot neutrals and minmatar that WERE NOT BLUE
No blue pilots were fired upon in Kamela by SOTF pilots today
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Tekitha
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Posted - 2012.05.22 00:03:00 -
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Horak Thor wrote: basically to all 3rd parties this is what SOTF did which was so nice to us their blues, they brought 15 guardians and multiple triage carriers into kamela, we obviously cant shoot blues meaning they removed our ability to ever contest majors, the bunker and anywhere outside mediums and minors. an agreement was hashed that we wouldnt attack kamela if wbr didnt offensively plex until dt, we then proceeded to contest sahtogas which they forgot to mention on the agreement we also cant shoot, we told them to **** off tears were had, Drunk n disordely was reset, more tears were had. when caldari need help taking your home system is it cool if we bring along a load of logi's and caps yeah? ok cool cheers bro
oh and btw wbr has had to batphone cva aaa test goons, drunk n disorderly just to hold onto kamela, pro guys real pro
As i stated in my previous post, the objective was to prevent WBR from losing Kamela, in various channels with minmatar leadership we stated that the minmatar were free to take any system they want without interference, except Kamela. If this for some reason was extended to Sahtogas then I am unsure why (I had logged off by that point). The reason I made the post was specifically to counter accusations that we "shot blues" which was simply untrue.
Additionally. I have no issue with the standings reset, not like minmatar are any use anyway ... More targets can only mean more fun.
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Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.05.22 00:46:00 -
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Juan Rayo wrote:Tekitha wrote: Additionally. I have no issue with the standings reset, not like minmatar are any use anyway ... More targets can only mean more fun.
Seems to me they are kicking Amarr butt all over the place, even with -leet- corps like WBR on the ammar side, so they might be of some use after all. I also seem to remember minnies and galls participating in lots of ops together over the years.
Not really, I can't even remember the last time we had a minmatar / gallente joint op. As for minmatar kicking Amarr butt, sure when they have huge numberes advantage they may win fights, but there is only so much that 1 good corp (WBR) can do to counter larger numbers.
@Mutnin, what does draketrain have to do with any of this? - Also no, we weren't really telling them how they can play their game, they can do whatever they want (seems they chose to reset us, fair enough) all we said is we will be helping WBR defend Kamela, the course of action they persue after that is entirely up to them. |
Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.05.22 01:09:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:
Although, I don't see SOTF helping amarr do anything but hold Kamela.
Shockingly, that is all we are trying to do ...
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Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.05.22 03:11:00 -
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Shaampoo wrote:Hi Silence Lock out wrote:Mister Kwong wrote:The fun thing to do is for the Late Night to briefly join Gallente , then proceed to take Kamela, and see if SOTF is willing to shoot them Now that would be providing nice content :) If only there was a area of space when individual alliances could take up ownership of systems independent of factions If only one Alliance could fight the owner for that space with out concord interfering I dream of a day when that is implemented
If only those paticular areas of space didn't require said allaince to have a 10,000 man napfest to even consider competing for more than the scraps of useless space
I dream of a day when that is implemented
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Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.05.22 17:16:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:I think the only thing people are really complaining about is the blue-on-blue PVP performed by SoTF.
Everything else is just same old, same old.
SOTF never fired a shot at a blue target ... Honestly, how ******* ******** are you?
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Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.05.22 18:38:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:
The actions of the Minmatar are irrelevant.
always
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Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.05.22 18:59:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Lock out wrote:chatgris wrote:
I would never have expected SOTF to actively fight a militia sov war that was contrary to the Gallente Federation's mandate (which includes attacking Amarr plexes, we go in there the button runs against the Minmatar and we get rewarded for it). That is what surprises me.
Gallente Federation's mandate ? Intergalactic summit, that way. --------> If you wanna talk about prioritising blues, getting involved in blue vs blue fights, etc. I'll be more than happy to discuss, but we couldn't care less about **** rp'ing. This isn't even Intergalactic summit. This is the core mechanics of factional warfare: these plexes you capture, these plexes you can defend. What you did prevents Gallente Militia from docking in that system too. I consider abiding by the mechanics of the faction I join basic e-honour in a video game. (I know that e-honour isn't required in this game, and is often time advertised as a weakness even by CCP, but it doesn't change my feelings about it). Anyways, I better stop posting and get back to work.
I consider helping a long standing ally holding their home system as e-honor in a video game ...
Who's to say your definition is any more relevant than mine?
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Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:26:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Then here's some advice for you: don't play factional warfare. An arbitrary CCP mechanic telling you who your friends and enemies should be is the price you pay for being a member of it. Even then, it only tells you who your allies and enemies should be, not who they are. I never said your actions were somehow against the spirit of the game or "illegal", but they're certainly counterproductive and irksome.
We don't "play factional warfare" we play eve, and FW just so happens to be the theatre that most suits our purpose. Nothing more than that, we have no interest in the goings on of FW and it's RP membership above and beyond that which affects our gameplay.
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Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.05.22 19:45:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Tekitha wrote:X Gallentius wrote:I think the only thing people are really complaining about is the blue-on-blue PVP performed by SoTF.
Everything else is just same old, same old.
SOTF never fired a shot at a blue target ... Honestly, how ******* ******** are you? LOL, because you reset us right before... Honestly, how ******* ******** are you?
the first kill appearing on our allaince killboard that was a (ex)blue minmatar corp member was at 2300 eve time. The standings reset happened at around 2130 eve time
Also it was minmatar who reset us first (understandably so) not us resetting them.
You seem misinformed friend
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Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.05.23 01:21:00 -
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Klarion Sythis wrote:I'd been considering buying an alt to play around with FW after the upcoming changes, and I know a lot of other people have been considering this as well from various parts of the game.
But every thread, article, blog, or piece of written text I've seen regarding FW comes off as the whiniest, trollingest (not a word), most biased piece of linguistic garbage I've ever seen. It makes the nullsec entities look like paragons of civility and mutual understanding.
So much for gudfites.
Trolling a FW thread for being too trolly. You sir, would fit right in.
Time to get that alt |
Tekitha
Shadows Of The Federation Drunk 'n' Disorderly
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Posted - 2012.05.24 23:11:00 -
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Since I know eve players love real world analogies so much, here's one for you.
Imagine if you will you have two good friends, let's call them Mohammad and Abdullah for arguments sake. Now, Mohammad is considerably bigger than Abdullah and these two friends have never liked each other, they constantly bicker and you generally just tolerate there disdain for each other and don't get involved.
One day a fight kicks off between the two of them, Mohammad starts beating the living crap out of Abdullah, do you ...
a) join in with Mohammad and beat Abdullah to within an inch of his life, likely leaving him crippled for months to come. b) stand idly by and watch Mohammad beat Abdullah to within an inch of his life, likely leaving him crippled for months to come. c) turn the tide of the fight and kick the crap out of your good friend Mohammad. d) put yourself inbetween your two friends and act as a deterrant to try and break up the fight and negotiate some kind of peace, or at the very least, keep abdullah out of hospital.
We chose option d, as I'm sure just about any non-sociopathic human being would.
Is that clearer? |
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