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Endeavour Starfleet
825
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Posted - 2012.05.24 09:15:00 -
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Inotaahole Really wrote:The unified inventory window is not an improvement. It adds many clicks, and time, and mouse accuracy issues. It is frustrating to use and makes using GSC's in a cargohold not worth the effort. Right now for me, the unified inventory window is causing Eve to be - not worth the effort.
So instead of whining about it do you have any ideas you think would make it better besides "Go back nao" perhaps?
The old system is not coming back. They are going to put a ton of work to make the new system better. |

Linkert
De Bier Zuiperts
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 09:28:00 -
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The new missle effects giving extreme lag when zoomed in :S
When you zoom out you cant see your missles fly like before!
Regards Linkert |

Aria Wolfe
Great Awakening
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 09:41:00 -
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So I didn't see much in this thread about the nerfing of frigates. After all these years were they really unbalanced? Now they are useless really, at least for how I like to fly.
The Inventory sux. That has been said already, but will they actually listen & change it back? I doubt it, it would have already happened.
Fanfest 2012 was lame. Just wanted to mention that.
Like others I find it difficult to want to play. The classic inventory was easy to use in station and looting wrecks/containers and with capital ships & POSes. Now it is a ***** to do anything. And NO it is not something most of us will adapt to.
Summer is here and I don't mind taking a break from eve until they fix this issue of playability or we're going to shoot up Jita!
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Buddy Dude
The Green Cross Red Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:01:00 -
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i absolutely agree that the unified inventory should be made optional, i myself prefer the old method and don't like it, period 
Missle effects are nice
noticed many glitches, hope u guys arent done and satisfied with it, because it needs more love, thx  |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
255
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:09:00 -
[785] - Quote
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112161
here 15 pages of people hating the new inventory.
put this sh*t away finally, everytime I get a rotating circle when opening my inv I wanna punch someone in the face, BECAUSE IT WORKED FINE BEFORE AND NOW IT DOESNT!
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Calumbacha
guided by voices
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:17:00 -
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CCP Please STOP SCREWING UP EVE.
Every one i know has now given up on EVE, and I don't want to be next.
A long chat with some mates in corp and we have come to the conclusion that this game is going down hill, it was so much better when I started. Launcher still sucks, New UI sucks even more, i want multiple windows god damn it. Seriously FIRE who ever thought this new UI was good.
IMPORTANT How bout from now on when you guys release ANYTHING to do with the UI in the game add a button in the general settings that reverts it back to the old settings allowing people a who think it sucks a choice. It's called freedom.
Signed once again by an unhappy CUSTOMER...........
P.S. Forcing all the locals images to load sucks even more, i don't know if i have seen the toon before. Also LAG!
P.P.S. Stupid suggestion time, make a server with an early release of EVE for us old reminiscing farts, dual MWD are the drool. OR stop messing the game up.
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Adaahh Gee
Rock jockeyz Ushra'Khan
27
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:24:00 -
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Caprican Erock wrote:Choose Randomize wrote:I must apologize to the English, Google Translator can not it just as it should. I would like to bring some new things in the right light as you see now.
First ......... Salvage - open container / wreck takes about 0.3 + - seconds longer. Call it lag. Just open the container now takes about 0.3s longer. We want to have a slower game or how.
Second .............. Item manager chapter for itself. I do not know who invented this system for storing things, ships, etc..
Before the expansion was one window, scattered as it is wanted. Cargohold, hangar, things on the station. Between the windows is simply one click could toss back and forth here and there and everywhere. The current system you can not even remember how this one does help shift + click. If I change the ship, undock, dock, jump.
Now I feel stupid imposed a window that has a lot of interactivity far. What I can see how much ISK I have? On it I photographed it and put it in a showcase? But this is one of me, I just have a dig.
Give a choice, the old system items, ships, etc.. A new system. The current system item manager email unusable for me, as it is.The current system item manager is unusable for me, as it is. Inability to store windows hangar cargohold, things on the station. So what I want and not forced upon me as one of the window at nothing.
thanks for your attention darmok and jalad at tanagra.
Temba, his arms wide |

Saan Koo
Heian Alfa X13 Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:24:00 -
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Hi
The inventory system looks like its made by someone who dossent play the game or dont own much inventory it works just as bad as microsofts filetrees thats why so many have programs like norton commander(Total commande) or have multiple windows open.
Let the left menu be optional and make it possibel to open more then 1 items or have 2 parts of the item tree open at the same time (Look at Total commander). Best would be both so you use 1 in space and the other on stations. |

Havlar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:26:00 -
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I've never been on these forums before. But Eve should seriously reconsider the suitablity of some of their staff for their jobs!!!!!
I would seriously propose that Eve offer all players a free month playing as compensation
Whoever thought of complicating the inventory and ships displays has absolutely no empathy with the players. |

Saan Koo
Heian Alfa X13 Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:37:00 -
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Hi Again
I havent read all this but why havent you fixed local and other chats or are you to busy with the inventory system  |
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Dahl Schoss
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:44:00 -
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Ok, feedback on new inventory.
And folks, please, comments like "it sucks, I'm outta here" are stupid. Take time to get used to it. Having said that, I do have a few comments.
I live in a WH, so the new inventory is a bit of a PITA for me for a number of reasons.
1) you still cannot rename POS Modules. If you COULD I could tell which one of the 10 CHAs are which.
2) There is no filtering of locations. In my list I have the pos guns, the CHAs, labs, tower, SMAs, we need a filter strip at the bottom of the list to allow me to hide all the pos guns. I don't need to SEE those in normal operation. I should not have to scroll past 15 pos guns to get to my CHAs.
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khalsou
Royal Dutch Fleet The Big Dirty
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 10:51:00 -
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hiya
been scrolling through entire thread, I see devs answering all sorts of question except the one that matters the most for most players. why the heck change the cargo/loot wreck/corp hangar/ship hangar etc?
clearly the most of eve players do not like it, I am defenatly one of them that does hate it, missiles are ok but imo not really needed to change either, I would say from all the updates I think this is by far the worse one.
As far as I can see and read on sisi already was told the change of hangar/inventory window was not a big success, so why change it anyways?
Maybe CCP should listen more to the community then to change what they think is fun, previous patch screwed up the incursion, this patch screw up the hangar/inventory... what is going to be screwed next patch?
just my 2 bits |

RFD commander
The Infinity Guys
1
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:13:00 -
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I understand some people don't like the new inventory, but hating on them missiles + launchers is plain and simply wrong! The missile launchers have to be one of the best things to grace my Vengeance! It adds some amazing aesthetics to Caldari Combat, much better than a randomly spawning missile from your hull! |

Tara Stargazer
Interstellar Friends Club SCUM.
7
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:14:00 -
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Adding my 5c
Not happy with the new UI. I had a way of having my station window, ship window, fitting tool, drone and ship cargo open all at once and setting up for a particular mission, completing the mission, returning and setting up again for the next mission or job.
I could see how much ammo i had on board at a glance, and drag more if needed, but now i have to check the ship bay first, or open it as a separate window, then return to station and etc....etc...
Really can't be bothered typing it all. As everyone else (except maybe 2 people) have said, I'm not happy with the new UI.
There are some elements of it that have potential, but overall the old UI was better.
If it hasn't already been suggested, how about putting it to a poll? |

Serenety Steel
15
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:17:00 -
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Tara Stargazer wrote: If it hasn't already been suggested, how about putting it to a poll?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112161 |

Ad'Hakim Tahous
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
79
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:20:00 -
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Nyla Skin wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote: We're all on team Super Friends, responsible for new modules, War Dec system, War Reports, and Kill Reports
So nobody is responsible for the inventory? That explains..
Not quite Nyla; nobody is being held accountable for the 'improved' inventory system. |

Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
252
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:24:00 -
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Ad'Hakim Tahous wrote:Nyla Skin wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote: We're all on team Super Friends, responsible for new modules, War Dec system, War Reports, and Kill Reports
So nobody is responsible for the inventory? That explains.. Not quite Nyla; nobody is being held accountable for the 'improved' inventory system. CCP Arrow and CCP Optimal and their team is responsible for that mess. Set them to -10 and send them the notification. If they ignore us in the forum tehy might see the protest in their mail account in eve. |

battle earl
Divine Beasts Nite's Reign
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:48:00 -
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the new inventory has made Eve un-playable if it not rolled back you i will not be renewing my 3 accounts 
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Zleon Leigh
144
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:51:00 -
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After today's DT - local looks like it may have been fixed. However, still seeing ghosts in chat channels.
Any pool up on how many releases to get back to our standing pool of bugs?
Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |

Zerania Astrandur
Oris Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 11:55:00 -
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I really like the graphics updates and the new missile/launchers! 
But the new inventory system... well... it's not that intiutive and far from efficient... to put it mildly. |
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Kssin Shirogane
Tacos For Everyone
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 12:09:00 -
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Cut and Paste functionality for inventory items do not work. |

Janus Nightmare
ECP Incorporated
29
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Posted - 2012.05.24 12:19:00 -
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Here's the thing CCP:
* POS Issues: Renaming every f'ing gun at my POS is not a fix to the massively slow load times of the inventory tree, nor the mess that it creates by having 30+ menu items in the list that are totally unnecessary. That was a really, really dumb way to "fix" the issue. The problem is that I'm 50+km away from a module, yet it shows up in the tree even though I have to be within, what, 3km to interact with it. Why are my guns even there if I'm not even remotely close to them? On top of that, do you know how frickin' long it's going to take to rename everything?
* Salvaging/Looting: Give me a break already! Sure, I can shift-click to open each wreck or can's inventory box in a new window like before, but damnit, close the f'ing window after I hit Loot All. Don't reload my ship's inventory in the same window! It takes anywhere from 3 to 40 seconds for that window to reload, and the more items I loot, the longer it takes for the UI to load, and that's time where I literally can not do anything else, as even activating a module waits on the UI window to load items.
* As others have stated, return the right-click ability to quickly open cargohold, ore hold, corporate hangar, etc. It used to be click->click done. Now it's double click -> click -> scroll scroll scroll scroll scrolll oh **** I went too far scroll scroll scroll ******* finally GOD DAMNIT IT I FORGOT TO SHIFT-CLICK AND NOW I HAVE TO REOPEN MY CARGOHOLD AGAIN DAMNIT!!!!!!!!
Some suggested solutions:
1. Give us the ability to group menu items in any way, shape, or form that we desire. For example. I've got 30 POS guns or so. Let me group those guns into a menu tree named "Boomsticks!", then let me collapse those trees so that I don't see ever single gun in the tree.
2. Load only the selected container. Don't preload the entire inventory of every container within 300km, then reload them all again when I select the next container (which seems to happen about half the time, but not always, except when looting wrecks and then it happens every single time)
3. As stated above, return the right-click menu items for cargohold, corp hangar, ore hold, and so on, so that I can open them quickly, in a new, size-remembered and no tree visible window quickly and easily. That's at the very least.
4. Even better!!!!! Give us the option to drag a menu item from the UI (let's say Ore Hold) to the new neocom and create a shortcut button that's visible when I'm in my Orca, but not visible when I'm in, say, my stealth bomber. I realize that's a lot of additional coding and probably won't happen anytime soon, but god that would be so awesome and would actually compensate for not having the right-click menu items available anymore. Hell, that would be even better. (ARE YOU LISTENING TO THIS CCP SOUNDWAVE!)
Anyway, that's my two cents. Just thought I'd put that in there now that we're
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Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor Intrepid Crossing
303
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Posted - 2012.05.24 12:23:00 -
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Not sure I'd you addressed this in the 40 pages prior, but can you explain this change with more detail?
Fixed an issue where BPCs invented with decryptors would sometimes have one less production run than they should have
Seems to be some confusion on what change actually happened here. When did the "sometimes" happen?
Thanks Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! |

StarCasher
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
3
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Posted - 2012.05.24 12:29:00 -
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Unified inventory epic fail!
Put it back how it was, it wasn't broken so didn't need fixing.
Everything else cool well done.
Fix the Unified inventory, remove or at very least make optional. |

N3LLY
MUNKI.MINERS.INC
9
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Posted - 2012.05.24 12:31:00 -
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TWO DAYS OF NO GAME PLAY DO I GET A REFUND ???
UI is a big pile of poo |

Farnfax
Bob and Doug Storage Company
7
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Posted - 2012.05.24 12:32:00 -
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The new unified inventory system is terrible to work with. The older system was much much better. Please bring back the old system. |

NewGit
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2012.05.24 12:56:00 -
[807] - Quote
It seems that the majority agrees, get rid of this new system and bring back the old one that was much easier to use (and I'll bet was a lot easier on the server as it didn't have to recalculate the value of every item in every window every time something changed).
Renaming POS modules was (is) long overdue, especially as we could already name some of them, but not others for some reason.
Most everything else in this expansion seems OK, except for this unified inventory. Get rid of it, send it back the drawing board for a couple of years and give us the old system back.
Thanks and have a so-so day !
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67Marine Alpha
POOF Corp
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:07:00 -
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I dont like the way the items/ cargohold/hangar/wreck is all in the same window. they need to be separate, and they need to remain open or closed, they way they were left, and in the location they were placed.
and any open windows need to be minimized to the bottom of the screen, the way they used to be. not to a unidentified icon on the neocom |

Commander A9
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
15
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:20:00 -
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As of 24-MAY-12, chat windows are still screwed up. I'm continually seeing people in my channels as being online, when they're actually offline.
Corps members list doesn't lie.
And if you must keep this disgusting new inventory system, the Orca should also probably get its own inventory system, otherwise a lockout from an Orca will cause you to be unable to access your cargobay, your own Orca, and any can and wreck nearby because as of now it's all on the same system. If CCP wants to make changes: -rollback to old inventory system (pre-Inferno) -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -stop "fixing" what isn't "broken" |

GodsSoldier Aideron
1zero1 Inc.
6
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:25:00 -
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this is so amazing to me that we actually pay for this service, they don't give a f^^$ about the feedback from the test server, they don't seem to care much about the massive negative feedback in the forums because after this list of changes they say their planning to make in the link below (with more to come) WHY NOT JUST ACCEPT ITS A FAIL AND BRING THE WORKING SYSTEM BACK??!!! or at the very least give us a simple(old) / unified(new) option in our settings? ccp you have something great here and we don't mean to sound like a bunch of spoiled ungrateful children. but if you hire someone to paint your house.. you tell them you don't want to change the color, just repaint it and repair anything broken,, then you come home and they've changed the color to florescent green. your not gonna walk around your house telling them how great of a job they've done on everything else. your gonna voice to them what your unhappy about ...THE NEW COLOR YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR OR NEEDED!! or in our case the fail inventory system i fear were gonna get stuck with like it or not! its not like you have a handful of cutomers mentioning some unhappiness with one of your changes,,, come on, its day 3 and there's what, like 40+ pages of complaints about this system,,, what more do you need to convince yourselves that this needs to be removed? not updated and altered every other day for the next 2 months,, but taken out!! if you have to revamp it to the point where its a totally different product, wtf is the point?
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72779 |
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