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David Deltori
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:37:00 -
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Chat is still broke and ghosts still show, its annoying ..... FIX IT PLEASE instead of making new stuff that's breaking other stuff |
gino valluchi
Gino Valluchi Corp
1
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:38:00 -
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GIVE ME MY CORP HANGER BUTTON BACK ON STATION TAB GIVE ME MY SHIPS HANGER BACK GIVE ME MARKET DELIVERIES BACK
new inventory system is just so bad. As Software Engineer, i gotta say it works for windows and other operating systems, but this is not an operating system. Fire the GUI developers who dreamed this up as a good thing!
It should be an option like whether or not u see the captains quarters or ship hanger, i like the ship hanger. Simple, clean efficient.
Having the corp hangers in the unified interface also slows the ability to quickly locate things, as you have to wait for it to load all your stuff in the corp hangers. Again annoying as opposed to being right there when u clicked on corp hangers button
GIVE ME MY CORP HANGER BUTTON BACK ON STATION TAB GIVE ME MY SHIPS HANGER BACK GIVE ME MARKET DELIVERIES BACK |
David Deltori
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:38:00 -
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Dahl Schoss wrote:Commander A9 wrote:As of 24-MAY-12, chat windows are still screwed up. I'm continually seeing people in my channels as being online, when they're actually offline.
Corps members list doesn't lie.
And if you must keep this disgusting new inventory system, the Orca should also probably get its own inventory system, otherwise a lockout from an Orca will cause you to be unable to access your cargobay, your own Orca, and any can and wreck nearby because as of now it's all on the same system. Hahaha, you are moaning about the chat window not working for what? the last coupla weeks? The MAC client has been fundamentally broken since the last expansion back in october 2011. Tends to hang every 5-10 minutes if the window is larger than 1024x768.
Your problem for owning a "MAC" |
gino valluchi
Gino Valluchi Corp
1
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:40:00 -
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David Deltori wrote:Chat is still broke and ghosts still show, its annoying ..... FIX IT PLEASE instead of making new stuff that's breaking other stuff
please fix this it is annoying talking to other who are not there!! It will get people thrown out of there corp for ignoring people that are talking to them!!!! |
Ristlin Wakefield
Wakefield-Dukovsky Conglomerate
9
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:44:00 -
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I own a Mac and have played with the United Inventory with no problems at all. I'm as happy as can be.
Despite the raging going on this forum, remember that this group does not comprise the entire player base. There are many more of us who actually like the change, so don't ask CCP to change it back for your sake. However, I do agree that there should be an option to change it back for those who probably also cry over spilled milk and anything else that does not fit perfectly with their way of life. |
gino valluchi
Gino Valluchi Corp
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:45:00 -
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GodsSoldier Aideron wrote:this is so amazing to me that we actually pay for this service, they don't give a f^^$ about the feedback from the test server, they don't seem to care much about the massive negative feedback in the forums because after this list of changes they say their planning to make in the link below (with more to come) WHY NOT JUST ACCEPT ITS A FAIL AND BRING THE WORKING SYSTEM BACK??!!! or at the very least give us a simple(old) / unified(new) option in our settings? ccp you have something great here and we don't mean to sound like a bunch of spoiled ungrateful children. but if you hire someone to paint your house.. you tell them you don't want to change the color, just repaint it and repair anything broken,, then you come home and they've changed the color to florescent green. your not gonna walk around your house telling them how great of a job they've done on everything else. your gonna voice to them what your unhappy about ...THE NEW COLOR YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR OR NEEDED!! or in our case the fail inventory system i fear were gonna get stuck with like it or not! its not like you have a handful of cutomers mentioning some unhappiness with one of your changes,,, come on, its day 3 and there's what, like 40+ pages of complaints about this system,,, what more do you need to convince yourselves that this needs to be removed? not updated and altered every other day for the next 2 months,, but taken out!! if you have to revamp it to the point where its a totally different product, wtf is the point? http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=72779
i agree with everything above especially with "WHY NOT JUST ACCEPT ITS A FAIL AND BRING THE WORKING SYSTEM BACK??" " the fail inventory system i fear were gonna get stuck with like it or not! " - shameful way to do business CCP !!!
U know when customers complain in groves, the business usually fails shortly after!!!! |
GodsSoldier Aideron
1zero1 Inc.
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:52:00 -
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Tastykle wrote:Hello, just stopping by to lol @ ppl "quitting" b'cos of inventory
while your lol'ing have a good look at the server population since the patch in comparison to what it was a month ago. at some point players will get fed up and actually move to a different game. which in eves case means less people to shoot at, less people to build stuff, market prices climbing higher and higher as they are now. and an even more empty low and null sec. noobs just starting out already have a ton of **** to learn,, no way this new inventory system is gonna make it any easier. you will see server populations continue to drop, |
Dahl Schoss
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:54:00 -
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Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I own a Mac and have played with the United Inventory with no problems at all. I'm as happy as can be.
Despite the raging going on this forum, remember that this group does not comprise the entire player base. There are many more of us who actually like the change, so don't ask CCP to change it back for your sake. However, I do agree that there should be an option to change it back for those who probably also cry over spilled milk and anything else that does not fit perfectly with their way of life.
agreed, in addition, when you change any well used area of a piece of software people will hate it, even if the change is perfection, they will hate it.
Come on folks, give it time. Work with it for a while. Let CCP do what they can to make it better before screaming and throwing your dummy out of the pram. |
Nightshade Mary
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
5
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Posted - 2012.05.24 13:56:00 -
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Please give me my old inventory back. (Or at least make this one optional, like the captain's quarter is) |
Pflepsen
Elko Bail Bonds Quixotic Hegemony
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Posted - 2012.05.24 14:02:00 -
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Urgg Boolean wrote:Ayame Tao wrote:I can't drag and drop items from cargo to floating containers if they're nested in the same window. e.g.
- pop out a jet-can in space
- click on it to open it
- swear loudly that it steals focus and has replaced your cargo hold
- re-open cargo hold
- swear loudly that it has closed the previously open container
- shift-click cargo hold - move and resize window
- shift-click container - drag window onto title bar of cargo hold, dock as a nested window... cool
- drag item from cargo to container name tab in nested window... nothing.
- swear loudly
- undock nested window to a seperate window
- drag item from hold window to container window
- success!
- buy 70 inch monitor to accomodate amount of shift clicked indivdual windows required
Jet-can mining, in-space resupply and POS operations are seriously annoying with this window behaviour. :( Not to mention salvaging or anytime you have to open an array of windows. If there is some secret ways to use this new system that are highly efficient, I'd sure like to know about them. But nobody from the UI team is in here posting with any insights. By a long shot, this new inventory system is the biggest F++k up ever! impossible to use piece of crap! |
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Pflepsen
Elko Bail Bonds Quixotic Hegemony
3
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Posted - 2012.05.24 14:09:00 -
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Dahl Schoss wrote:Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I own a Mac and have played with the United Inventory with no problems at all. I'm as happy as can be.
Despite the raging going on this forum, remember that this group does not comprise the entire player base. There are many more of us who actually like the change, so don't ask CCP to change it back for your sake. However, I do agree that there should be an option to change it back for those who probably also cry over spilled milk and anything else that does not fit perfectly with their way of life. agreed, in addition, when you change any well used area of a piece of software people will hate it, even if the change is perfection, they will hate it. Come on folks, give it time. Work with it for a while. Let CCP do what they can to make it better before screaming and throwing your dummy out of the pram. Go to your pos and try to use this piece of crap! you'll pull out your hair just trying to reship and reload ammo! i want to open my sma and cha not everything hanging off my tower! PIECE OF CRAP, |
Dahl Schoss
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
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Posted - 2012.05.24 14:12:00 -
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Pflepsen wrote:Dahl Schoss wrote:Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I own a Mac and have played with the United Inventory with no problems at all. I'm as happy as can be.
Despite the raging going on this forum, remember that this group does not comprise the entire player base. There are many more of us who actually like the change, so don't ask CCP to change it back for your sake. However, I do agree that there should be an option to change it back for those who probably also cry over spilled milk and anything else that does not fit perfectly with their way of life. agreed, in addition, when you change any well used area of a piece of software people will hate it, even if the change is perfection, they will hate it. Come on folks, give it time. Work with it for a while. Let CCP do what they can to make it better before screaming and throwing your dummy out of the pram. Go to your pos and try to use this piece of crap! you'll pull out your hair just trying to reship and reload ammo! i want to open my sma and cha not everything hanging off my tower! PIECE OF CRAP,
I live in a WH, you don't have to tell me. look at my head! no hair. We need filtering on the locations tree, we need renamable pos modules, we need a cookie.
But we have only had it for a little while and this is probably the most used piece of functionality in the game. Any change is going to be hated. |
Carl Storm Rotineque
Brotherhood of Brothers
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 14:23:00 -
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Nightshade Mary wrote:Please give me my old inventory back. (Or at least make this one optional, like the captain's quarter is) All the above, enough said! |
byron yuu
Redeye Inc.
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Posted - 2012.05.24 14:25:00 -
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this still is a mess i hope ccp is really taking notes from people. we need a fix soon play is ruined for me now and my corp mates.
imagine if windows decided to make you use 1 window and only 1 window ( call it window 7) it would be the last time people would turn on there computer as it would be imposable to work with.
i know you don't want to fix this as your ideas are always better than the players, and the window is better as it has more function but we need multiple windows still even if you keep the exact setup you have for the ui but in several pinable windows. at least that would be a fast fix even if it doesn't solve the pos hanger and gun problem.. that though could be fixed with just a overview setting, as i don't need to have my guns on overview as they show up as i warp into the bubble but my hangers and labs are important for range in space. you should at least allow us to name corp hangers like we do labs so we can see them for what they are. as for mission wrecks and jet cans it would also help because we could always remove them from overview till we need to salvage and loot.
please do something soon i hate logging in just to see i can't play normal and log back off and open the forum to read others saying the same thing. i know this is here to stay but the fix is simple and you can do it with little change using multiple ui windows even if they all show the same lists and cause major lag on loading them. at least it would be a start plus who cares how many windows you open inside a station i don't use the character station walk around i use the old ship screen...... why don't you add everything into 1 big window like mail and market and contracts and assets and corp? OH that's right you do its called the game.
don't get me wrong i like this mmo more than any other and want to stay playing it (its the only one i still play for 8 years now)... you do have good ideas and i want you to keep trying to give us better game fun. THANKS for all your work so far. I just expect you to do something to fix problems you test on us even if it may take a week or 2 till you get a real working ui setup. |
GodsSoldier Aideron
1zero1 Inc.
10
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Posted - 2012.05.24 14:26:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Cyriacus Antonius wrote:Will there ever be a way to revert to the old inventory system? I'm not sold on the new one at all, regardless of changes. No, probably not. I will however go fairly far in implementing feedback that improves this piece of UI though. Feedback continues to be welcome.
guess all of us who made this suggestion got our answer... |
Quindaster
Infernal laboratory Infernal Octopus
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Posted - 2012.05.24 14:28:00 -
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What the hell CCP did with stealth boombers?!
Stealth bombers was so awesome, especially Nemesis was really good, and now after Inferno patch Nemesis looks like trash noobship. I really cannot make difference between noobships and new Nemesis, they looks same trash.
I learned on all my 15 accounts for all chars Nemesis because it was really most beautiful and simmetrical ship, and now it looks like wreck and metalscrabs of noobship.
Give to us back our Nemesis old ship and do not allow for idiots disigners to touch most beautiful ships! Let them create some new trash, and not change old nice ships!
I will accept this new **** unified inventory, I will really wait 2 minutes after every dock-undock till this new inventory **** load all my items, but I will not accept this new Nemesis. In all other race it looks like a bit same (except amarr, cos purifier now awesome **** too) but in gallente new Nemesis absolutely doen't have anything same with old model.
I want old Nemesis model back !
I even will pay 10 plex if you tell me whom I need to kill, which game designer so others will give to us old Nemesis before I will pay new 10 plex for they's head to killer !
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Chloe Celeste
Aerospace IronWorks DRACONIAN COVENANT
2
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Posted - 2012.05.24 14:39:00 -
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When it comes to Unified Inventory this is what needs to happen to convience us to try to make it work for our style of gameplay:
* Remove the cargohold window from Unified Inventory
* Add button or link to open up the Ship Fittings from Unified Inventory instead of listed in the tree menu
* Cause the corporation hanger, ship hanger, and items hanger to spawn a seperated window by default
* Put corporation hanger names on the tabs
* Compact the header and footer sections of the seperated windows as it takes up too much space for those who have normal sized monitors and laptops.
* Last but not least, add option to turn off Unified Inventory just like the option to toggle between captain's quarters and ship spinning was introduced.
This is the will of 99% of all eve players....if anyone disagrees with me please post your comments. |
Haifisch Zahne
HZ Corp
6
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Posted - 2012.05.24 14:39:00 -
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The *ANSWER* was (and may still be if you have any users left after this fiasco) that the new Unified Inventory should have been *ASSETS*. PERIOD. |
Fedsem
86th Corp Divisoin
1
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Posted - 2012.05.24 14:42:00 -
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FW Targets cans till dock in enemy stations, so thats a fail.... 'poor coding?'
More importantly, New inventory is bad, Please give su the old way. Looting large wrecks can cause lag which will get you killed and also its a headache to loot wrecks.
New Killmails 'reports' are good, you guys didnt mess that up, SUPRISE
Fix the chat window bugs please.]
Did I mention that NEW INVETORY IS BAD and its ccp fixing something that wasnt broken at all and ionstead of this they should have fixed killmail/killreport denial via SELF DESTRUCTION
FIX WHATS NOT BROKEN AND IGNORE WHAT IS! good logic
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Cat silth
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 14:58:00 -
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oh MY god the hanger system is so poor , spend far to much time flicking to see what i have in the hanger its much better to use the assets button - make its optional , like walking on stations - hell like anyone uses that new/old feature make its optional pls |
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MineOps
Freedom-Technologies The Jagged Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:01:00 -
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This is my first time on the forums. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for this failed Inventory System. Thanks CCP. Please Bring Back the old. I'm to old to think anymore. |
Siphaanu
SchlongBong Local Down
4
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:02:00 -
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A few "feedback" points:
I would prefer a separate session for inventory window when docked and undocked, in other words, I would like the game to remember if my window was opened/closed when redocking/reundocking.
I would prefer if the game remembered what sort of icons were displayed in various inventories (big icons in ship cargohold, details in station cargohold etc.).
I would prefer if my ships in the inventory tree had some sort of small icons attached to them or were at least listed in alphabetically by type, instead of name. |
Sontar
SonTec
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:18:00 -
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The new models are very nice, and the missiles rock! Very well done.
I do find the changes to the Merlin rather surprising. As Caldari are mainly missile orientated, it seems odd that a T1 combat frigate would not even support them.
My main issue is with the new inventory system. It seems much less convenient and rather more cumbersome than the previous implementation. The actual details have been spelled out in numerous posts before; in general they align with my observations. As I also saw mentioned before, it seems an excellent compromise would be to make the inventory style a matter of player choice. This would satisfy the many people that like the new style as well as those that prefer the previous. |
Capsuleer Newton
Hedion University Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:21:00 -
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Dahl Schoss wrote:Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I own a Mac and have played with the United Inventory with no problems at all. I'm as happy as can be.
Despite the raging going on this forum, remember that this group does not comprise the entire player base. There are many more of us who actually like the change, so don't ask CCP to change it back for your sake. However, I do agree that there should be an option to change it back for those who probably also cry over spilled milk and anything else that does not fit perfectly with their way of life. agreed, in addition, when you change any well used area of a piece of software people will hate it, even if the change is perfection, they will hate it. Come on folks, give it time. Work with it for a while. Let CCP do what they can to make it better before screaming and throwing your dummy out of the pram.
yeah, work with it.... double-click current active ship, ahh, cargohold opens, shift-double-click a station container, good, it retains the positions, click the double-arrow to expand the index pain, &^*&^* damnit, why does it have to reset its size again, and why doesn't it stick to the pane width that i've chosen..... now, where was i, oh yeah, the pain, i mean the pane, (^%^*&^ now i have to scroll, have 120+ fitted ships in this station.... and yeah, not seeing my tengu in my hangar window almost caused me a stroke, active ships not in hangar window? wow, can't they just put a ribbon on its icon when its active and not delete it from the list, coz technically, an active ship when docked is in hangar, ain't it? |
Yuna Yee
The Volition Project
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:26:00 -
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- love the missiles - find the new inventory system pretty annoying - everything just got so much more complicated and so much more clicking is needed now - wondering why the phantasm looks so horrably greenish now - was that intended? - the client crashes every now and then since inferno even though my internet doesn't - hope that's solved with todays patch |
MamCieZjemCie
Processor Co Rolling Thunder.
10
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Posted - 2012.05.24 15:55:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:MamCieZjemCie wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:MamCieZjemCie wrote: 2. Mission "Read Details" info don't remember position where were last time open
what? I thought I fixed this Can you tell me which agent you were talking to and which mission, please? Naan Lekspar Nojana Dyodo Peter Oskarin Yelos Girgen Yes something changed, not I am unable to open "Read Details" on all at once even, if thats how you fix it... removing it then... I won't comment it as I will end with ban. I don't totally get what you're talking about but if you would file a Bug Report it would help me very much! Best way to do so is through F12 and Bug Report button at the bottom of the window. Thanks!
Done as told to, petition tracking id is 2884006. Its just in different category.
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SeriFlamehair
Marvin Martian Space Modulators Looney Toons Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 16:11:00 -
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to whoever did the new inventory system. please pull your head out. While in dock i can see the inventory as a useful tool out in space it is totally unusable when you have multiple pos modules to deal with or even a mining op. What used to be 3 small little windows open on orca to quickly see what status of each hold was at is now a 1/4 of the screen 4 window mess. that in order to see different items when you dock requires moving the size around so you can view or having to scroll down.
You took a simple and elegant fast method of finding what i wanted into another time waster. just like adding multiple jumps to missions. Did the exact same thing.
CCP has said they was going to listen to players and fix what needed to be fixed. stop making eve (look pretty) pretty is fine. However your focus should still be on fixing what is broken. the Inventory worked perfectly adequate as it was.
Make the game manageable not a convoluted monstrosity.
New inventory is a monstrosity. Please revert back to old method while in space. or give us the option just like cq of turning the crap off. |
Ketov Aktar
Grey Wolff
5
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Posted - 2012.05.24 16:19:00 -
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First off, the missiles are great. FPS seems faster and the new Stealth Bombers are cool. That said, the chat is still broken, sound does not work correctly andit is very slow opening Inventory window,especially the corporation hanger. I do like the hangers in the Ocra now. To me seems much simpler when running multiple accts. "SHIFT" Click works for opening windows in station to transfer stuff from one to another. However, The text in the index could be brighter when the window is pinned. It is hard to read when in station mode which alot of people use because docking is much slower into CQ. (My machine is not slow either) I agree the chat needs help and could get you killed in certain places! I like to hear my lasers fire and ship explosions, but now all I hear are the LOUD modules and NPC weapons. I hope you can sort these thing out soon because I think the new inventory idea is good... just needs some tweaking. I do understand that you will not be able to make everyone happy because some fear change, but we should be able to choose how we view our stuff. Good Luck. |
Mangone
Domination. En Garde
0
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Posted - 2012.05.24 16:34:00 -
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New inventory sux.. Its basicly allrigth and i know u can open them in different windows with shift or r-click. But biggest problem with it imho is that u need to reopen them every time u undock/redock. If u dock and redock 100 times in day thats around 300-400 window opening in day just for inventory. I want to have always 2 windows open in station items and ship bay and i dont want reopen them everytime. I also want to open my cargobay/dronebay by r-cliking ship and i mean just the cargo/dronebay. I dont want to go trough invetory to open them because its silly and coplicated once u have to do it million times in day. |
MineOps
Freedom-Technologies The Jagged Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.05.24 16:35:00 -
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Anyone Else Notice. that you find yourself talking to people in corp chat. that aint there cause they logged off but still shows them as online? wtf thought that was suppose to be fixed. |
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