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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.12 21:52:00 -
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As some of you may or may not know, I've actually been playing WoW for a bit to chill off from EVE and actually give the game a chance for once.
So obviously after calling someone called healprincess fat for two hours and getting reported for telling someone that their mother was "up for rfc" (whatever the **** that is), I decided to check the official forums to see what they thought of EVE.
It was awesome.
Quote: EVE is a boring old space game where you can't even leave your boring ****pit with boring long mining sessions and boring docking procedures.
With boring spread sheets PvP like fights.
With boring sessions and boring space screens with NO physics what ever.
In fact it is SO boring they let the players gain resources without even being bored logging in.
This gives an eternal advantage of course, because you will never trap older players because they progress even when being logged out.
Boring game for boring people who think they should play a game where your avatar is nothing but a boring poststamp in the upper left corner.
Am I being soo severe ?
No I am being rather nice even. :))))
Oh wait they play their game all on one server. I am sure f they would include such trivial boring things like trees, houses, a landscape and some decent planet graphics with at least some real physical behaviour, their game would come down as a brick.
Playing in a vacuum universe with no gravity laws at all, is like playing with emptiness all around you. Sums it up quite nicely.
Boring as hell.
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EVE is the worst MMO every made in my opinion. Common example of EVE gameplay:
Spend 10 hours figuring out the controls Start up your crappy ship Get a few missions you don't understand Get told by the tutorial to mine instead of do your missions Spend 10 hours mining to get money Get killed by space pirates Lose all your cargo and ship Do it over again Get a level up and think ''woohoo, I can kill those mean pirates now'' Find out that levelling up takes days to actually do. Get bored and see what the PvP is like Mercilessly attack some poor sod mining Get blown up by space police who come from nowhere Fly your pod which goes at 1 mph to the space station for a new ship Get killed by the space station because it now sees you as hostile Get cloned and put in a new ship Leave the space station Get shot by space police *rabbles on for 20 years*
And that's the entire EVE gameplay in a nutshell.
Post the WoWest quotes bout EVE u got: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fforums.wow-europe.com%2F+%22eve+online%22
Time to level my shaman some more, nexus out~~~
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Amber Saint
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.07.12 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: Amber Saint on 12/07/2009 21:56:19 Why didn't you post the OP, its probably the best one
Quote: Needing a break from wow i tried a free trial of EVE Online and i was so mad after just 2 days that i didnt even finsh the damn trial.
It's basically a space mmog where you fly startrek like ships and npc hunt, trade, mine or mission run or build your own empires and stuff. Sounds fine and like a standard game right? Wrong..it's full of griefers....adult griefers.
I went looking for better asteroids in a slightly lower security system than i started in and within 5 seconds of me mining, pirate players warped in, killed me....and took my ore. FFS i'm just a newb in a crappy ship what was the point of that ****?
So I appear back in the station with a kill message and in the basic ship. So I fit some guns and go back this time without mining lasers so i can fight, i get to the system and ask them why they are killing newbies. They told me they didnt know and invited me to thier gang so i could warp to them for my stuff back.
I did then we started talking about the game, they were both in their late 20's and they asked my age. Before i even finished typing they locked me and killed my ship AGAIN. I escaped in my pod and warped from moon to moon trying to loose them but they kept chasing me trying to kill my pod too.
I logged off, **** it and im not going back ever. Worst thing is the developers and GM's ENCOURAGE griefing and say its part of the game!!!!!!????? People can kill and steal from you and they get a pat on the back from GM's? WTF!!
I'm all for concentual pvp but random killings and constant griefing is not fun. Dont EVER play EVE Online, it's a griefers game far beyond any reasonable limit.
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.12 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Sarpedeus on 12/07/2009 21:57:37
Quote: eve online is boring. tried it once.. not that i played it for a long time.. but.. spaceships and stuff? naah. i want elves and magic :3
that's me irl
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.12 22:05:00 -
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Quote: heres my 2 cents about EVE:
being really bored of wow this spetember,i thought i would try some other game.EVE was there with its free download+trial which really got me going
the story and background was amazing and i thought i would have lots of fun with this game.
oh how wrong i was!
i first make a ship and have to go through 3 hours of mind numbing tutorials which make almost no sense or explain things like im a baby
(you see that glowing icon on you left which has a map icon? that is your map!oh no really? i thought it was my ships toilet exaust port)-baby
(when you finish talking with an agent use you adress book to open the space station that is in the system that you bookmarked to when you talked to the agnet and you clicked his mission objectives! whait what?! i have to use which thing?)-no sense
when you finnaly do go out and try stuff for the first time,you realise the first fatal flaw of EVE. absolutely no flying control of your ship! thats right,all you do is eighter set the autopilot or doubleclick in space. you cannot turn your ship,rotate it, or make complex flying meuveours(ala star wars type space fighting) all you do is click the autopilot or you doubleclick into space,and you ship automatically goes there with full thrust(making the point of speed pointless since youre always going with maximum thrust)
PVP.is a complete joke from a newbs standpoint.altho i belive its more complex when you get those battleships and such. all i do is click my target,lock on to it,and click my turret buttons.meanwhile i try to have it whitin optimal range. thats it,it doesnt change at all.the winner is the guy who had better shields/armour or weapons.there is no dodging the hits,since youre locked on and the only modifier if you hit/get hit is the range and perhaps some modules you can install.
the skills system is both a blessing and a curse.the blessing is obvious,you can learn skills while logged of which is very nice.but the real deal is when you realise the first few skills only take 1-2 hours to learn.while the advanced ones take up to a day or more.so whats the point of sleeping over it when i wake up i still has 7 hours to go.LAME! the skills themselves really dont give you much stuff eighter.most give you some kind of uselss buff like +5% ship agility which is dumb.but most are there because you need them to upgrade you ship.for instance you cannot put shields on without knowledge about electronics.so basically its just prolonguing your playtime so you can play more while not really getting much out of it.
travel time is rediculus.when i check the EVE trade system and buy some new skill or module.i have to jump 20 times to the new system.in this time i can simply go away and go watch TV,because all the ship is doing is taking millions of years to jump from here to there.
the world is pretty bleak.there are perhaps 1000-10000 different solar systems AND THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME! each system has a sun,some planets,moons and asteroid systems. there are no black holes,no spacial anomalies,no supernovas,the first place looks like the other with the exception of the name,the security rating and the people who run it
apart from mining,fighting and researching/manufactoring there isnt much you can do.did i say isnt much? i meant YOU CAN DO ANYTHING ELSE! all the time youre in your little capsule inside you ship.you cant leave the ship and go explore space stations.
there is also the lag.which by only a small margin can make your game unplayable.unlike wow where your instants become 3 second cats.in EVE while some pirates arrive the game starts to lag and you cant run away because of it(which mans your dead)
the final thing is some of the vital game mechanics.some things made so that EVE can have more to do like escrow missions,bounties and currier mission and such are overly complex and you can barely understand whats going on,who ordered the mission,where it starts,who can take it....
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Sarpedeus
Paragon Productions
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Posted - 2009.07.12 22:05:00 -
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literally the best post ever made
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.07.12 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Awesome Possum on 12/07/2009 22:25:51 Taking a break from EVE, I tried the WOW trial. Wandering around in my level 1 night elf prostitute, I wandered into Stranglethorn Vale to skill up my flower picking and handjob skills. I was immediately killed by a lvl 900 big black dildo. Switching out my vaseline and herb pouch for uber lvl 1 knives, I went back there to kill that effer. He immediately jumped me and killed me, then proceeded to corpse camp me for 5 hours until I logged out and emorage quit the trial.
**** WOW!
edit: obligatory
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online ♥
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.07.13 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Amber Saint Edited by: Amber Saint on 12/07/2009 21:56:19 Why didn't you post the OP, its probably the best one
Quote: Needing a break from wow i tried a free trial of EVE Online and i was so mad after just 2 days that i didnt even finsh the damn trial.
It's basically a space mmog where you fly startrek like ships and npc hunt, trade, mine or mission run or build your own empires and stuff. Sounds fine and like a standard game right? Wrong..it's full of griefers....adult griefers.
I went looking for better asteroids in a slightly lower security system than i started in and within 5 seconds of me mining, pirate players warped in, killed me....and took my ore. FFS i'm just a newb in a crappy ship what was the point of that ****?
So I appear back in the station with a kill message and in the basic ship. So I fit some guns and go back this time without mining lasers so i can fight, i get to the system and ask them why they are killing newbies. They told me they didnt know and invited me to thier gang so i could warp to them for my stuff back.
I did then we started talking about the game, they were both in their late 20's and they asked my age. Before i even finished typing they locked me and killed my ship AGAIN. I escaped in my pod and warped from moon to moon trying to loose them but they kept chasing me trying to kill my pod too.
I logged off, **** it and im not going back ever. Worst thing is the developers and GM's ENCOURAGE griefing and say its part of the game!!!!!!????? People can kill and steal from you and they get a pat on the back from GM's? WTF!!
I'm all for concentual pvp but random killings and constant griefing is not fun. Dont EVER play EVE Online, it's a griefers game far beyond any reasonable limit.
I bet he would LOVE Walking in Stations.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Hitokiri Haven
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Posted - 2009.07.13 01:18:00 -
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Sigh, there are qqer's in every game and there are those who won't try something new. Why care so much? Eve and wow have differences, to say one is better then the other is stupid. You have wow which has different classes that are unique. In eve, however, you can cross train and eventually (if you played long enough ) you'll be able to fly anything and everything. In eve it encourages a player controlled environment where as wow allows the control to be more in the hands of the developer. who the **** cares what other people think, it only matters what you think.
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.13 01:29:00 -
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People play game radically different from what they enjoy and don't like it.. News at 11.
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Junko Togawa
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.13 02:54:00 -
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This thread is full of lulz. Moar, plz.
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Zaphod Beeblebrox42
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Posted - 2009.07.13 03:22:00 -
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"Hi, I tried EvE and it was hard so I gave up and posted a rant about it. Also, I didn't bother to learn anything about EvE and what "sandbox" meant so I went to places that got me killed an then decided to rant about that, too. OMG, I trained for thirty seconds, went back out, and these 1,2,3,4 year old players were still able to kill me! WTF is up with that? I'm going to go rant more. Also, EvE is hard." __________________ Look, a forum alt! |
FireT
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Posted - 2009.07.13 03:58:00 -
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Old WoW hardcore player here from Vanilla and BC WoW. Overall grinding into an experience bar was directly proportional to my lack of activities, hygiene and friends. (Ignore the fact that my fiancee at the time was so horrible that I started playing WoW)
Eve's ability to give me the skill training while enjoying a sunny day biking, a weekend with my family and friends will make me never ever leave Eve. Yeah I will keep getting blown up when going into low sec, but unlike WoW they can't camp my corpse till I log.
And having the ability to cross train into all 4 factions and their styles = UBERFUN. Nothing makes a game more enjoyable than having auto skill training and the ability to switch ships / fighting styles.
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Toxif
Minmatar The Hive Syndicate Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.07.13 04:10:00 -
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I'm a four year WoW vet, and I played DAoC for three years before that.
Imo, the reason EVE is hard to adjust to skill-wise is because 'leveling' is not linear, and that fact makes you forget that skilling up to "endgame" (lol) in EVE probably takes just as long as it would in WoW, just with less effort.
Let's see... I've been playing this toon (my final EVE toon, the toon I abandoned WoW for) for two months, and, after aimlessly bringing different, unrelated skills to lvl 3/4, I've finally decided on an immediate goal: I want to fly the tubeworm (Typhoon). I'm one day away from Minnie Cruisers 4; next, I'll inject Minnie BS, train up all the recommended certificate skills for the ship, also train up drone skills, and then finally train BS to 3. This'll probably occupy the next month, probably less.
Three months to fly the 'standard' t1 PvP ship (you know what I mean), and that's with me logging on sporadically because of RL. If I were to roll a new toon in WoW and only devote as much time as I can give EVE right now, it would probably take me four or five months to hit 80, run instances for gear and rep, and finally be geared enough to run Naxx - then another month before I could hope to join a chill Ulduar PuG.
My 0.02 ISK. ____________________________________________________________
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Yunii
Gallente Black Serpent Technologies
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Posted - 2009.07.13 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: Yunii on 13/07/2009 04:51:01
Originally by: Awesome Possumedit: obligatory http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online [/quote
best review EvEr
------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Arkanon I think this thread also illustrates perfectly that we neither censor nor do we try to silence our customers. |
Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2009.07.13 04:51:00 -
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I'm an old-time WoW player - right from the first month of retail through Burning Crusade, I spent up to five hours a night healing people through raids. Or tanking for raids. But for healing and tanking I had to level up two characters, do every quest twice, and run instances twice to collect healing gear for my holy priest, then tanking gear for my warrior.
Then I wanted to try something different, so I rolled a druid. So now I have three characters to level up and gear up and quest up and grind rep for...
I tried out EVE because it seemed like it would be a successor to Elite, and I was quite impressed. Even better, I found that I could be a "healer" (ie: Logistics pilot), "tank" (ie: fly a drake for L4 missions), and I could even DPS with the same character (eg: fly a vexor with railguns and sentry drones). No more levelling up three characters at once just to stay in the guild! And any time I wanted to I could just switch roles!
These days I get back into WoW, start spamming "Holy priest LFG Halls of Lightning", but noone's interested unless I'm running heroics, my guild are busy raiding end-game content which my highest level character is too low to even get into, and noone's free to help me level. I don't have the gold to switch talent spec yet, so I log off and go mine a few more missions full of asteroids while making dinner. Then as my EVE friends log on we can just throw a fleet together and smash up some NPCs in mission space for a bit, then switch to our frigates and get ourselves blown up in lowsec for the fun of it.
I love EVE.
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Toxif
Minmatar The Hive Syndicate Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mara Rinn I'm an old-time WoW player - right from the first month of retail through Burning Crusade, I spent up to five hours a night healing people through raids. Or tanking for raids. But for healing and tanking I had to level up two characters, do every quest twice, and run instances twice to collect healing gear for my holy priest, then tanking gear for my warrior.
Then I wanted to try something different, so I rolled a druid. So now I have three characters to level up and gear up and quest up and grind rep for...
I tried out EVE because it seemed like it would be a successor to Elite, and I was quite impressed. Even better, I found that I could be a "healer" (ie: Logistics pilot), "tank" (ie: fly a drake for L4 missions), and I could even DPS with the same character (eg: fly a vexor with railguns and sentry drones). No more levelling up three characters at once just to stay in the guild! And any time I wanted to I could just switch roles!
These days I get back into WoW, start spamming "Holy priest LFG Halls of Lightning", but noone's interested unless I'm running heroics, my guild are busy raiding end-game content which my highest level character is too low to even get into, and noone's free to help me level. I don't have the gold to switch talent spec yet, so I log off and go mine a few more missions full of asteroids while making dinner. Then as my EVE friends log on we can just throw a fleet together and smash up some NPCs in mission space for a bit, then switch to our frigates and get ourselves blown up in lowsec for the fun of it.
I love EVE.
I don't know why, maybe I'm just super stoned; that post made me crack up and cry at the same time. Brilliant.
Thank you. ____________________________________________________________
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:25:00 -
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I really want to play wow now. Eve is full of mean pirates and griefers.
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Herty I really want to play wow now. Eve is full of mean pirates and griefers.
Can I haz your stuff?
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Hellfury
Originally by: Herty I really want to play wow now. Eve is full of mean pirates and griefers.
Can I haz your stuff?
Contracting you my stuff now.
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.07.13 05:45:00 -
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Edited by: Herty on 13/07/2009 05:45:49 double post.......
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gheyzer
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Posted - 2009.07.13 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: Amber Saint Edited by: Amber Saint on 12/07/2009 21:56:19 Why didn't you post the OP, its probably the best one
Quote: Needing a break from wow i tried a free trial of EVE Online and i was so mad after just 2 days that i didnt even finsh the damn trial.
It's basically a space mmog where you fly startrek like ships and npc hunt, trade, mine or mission run or build your own empires and stuff. Sounds fine and like a standard game right? Wrong..it's full of griefers....adult griefers.
I went looking for better asteroids in a slightly lower security system than i started in and within 5 seconds of me mining, pirate players warped in, killed me....and took my ore. FFS i'm just a newb in a crappy ship what was the point of that ****?
So I appear back in the station with a kill message and in the basic ship. So I fit some guns and go back this time without mining lasers so i can fight, i get to the system and ask them why they are killing newbies. They told me they didnt know and invited me to thier gang so i could warp to them for my stuff back.
I did then we started talking about the game, they were both in their late 20's and they asked my age. Before i even finished typing they locked me and killed my ship AGAIN. I escaped in my pod and warped from moon to moon trying to loose them but they kept chasing me trying to kill my pod too.
I logged off, **** it and im not going back ever. Worst thing is the developers and GM's ENCOURAGE griefing and say its part of the game!!!!!!????? People can kill and steal from you and they get a pat on the back from GM's? WTF!!
I'm all for concentual pvp but random killings and constant griefing is not fun. Dont EVER play EVE Online, it's a griefers game far beyond any reasonable limit.
I bet he would LOVE Walking in Stations.
I read that with an "n" not an "l" and I bet he would
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Rock urSocksoff
Incura
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Posted - 2009.07.13 06:44:00 -
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There are people who find Eve too harsh? As someone who read C&P I find this hard to believe!
Originally by: Saluss Its a bad world in EvE and everyone wants your Retail shuttle.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.07.13 07:04:00 -
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We should all be happy to have choices brought to us by the much maligned (incorrectly) free market, and not waste time on being bitter.
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Xenophanes Colophon
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Posted - 2009.07.13 07:07:00 -
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Reading this makes me laugh. It's always funny to see what people that enjoy a drastically different type of MMO have to say about Eve. Personally, I love Eve. This is the first MMO I have actually played for more than a month. I tried WoW, hated it. I actually tried WoW after each expansion just to see if I might enjoy it "now". I didn't. Not my type of MMO. I tried Vanguard, liked it better than Eve, but not enough to keep playing it. I went back to RTS. I love RTS(real rts, not that DotA stuff). Then one day my little brother was in town and showed me Eve. I was hooked. I'm now 4 months in and actually think to turn Eve on before RoL, WC3, SC, or DoW2. The point is that the WoW players that just greatly contributed to my lols are obviously not Eve people. They should stick to their level grinding on npcs. There's a reason that Eve skill training is time based. It's so that we can PvP without having to worry about whether or not we need to go grind some npc/ camp a drop. Most grinding we might need to do is for standing to get into FW or to use a jump clone. Eve has a steep learning curve. If you aren't willing to put the time and effort in to learning the game you shouldn't comment about it being boring. Now excuse me while I go grind for my jumpclone(god I hate mission grinding).
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zaxin diadrin
Minmatar Esquires Of Questionable Intention
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Posted - 2009.07.13 07:16:00 -
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I went back to WoW for something to kill time in over the summer, I was planning on Pugging my way through dungeons.
However, after sitting through hours of random rude comments etc (although I did meet some nice people too), I kept thinking "damn, if this was EvE I would blow them up as soon as they came out of the station".
I knew then I was playing the wrong mmo.
I liked wow, I played it from release to Wotlk, taking breaks here and there to play other games, but it is just not for me any more.
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Therran Promitz
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.07.13 07:49:00 -
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I've played WoW for two years now, and EVE for about one. I love both, and it's hard to compare the two.
So I apologize on behalf of all WoW players who aren't idiots, those people who said those things about EVE are the ones who sit in the corner wearing the special hat. ___________________ Show me how it ends |
Zaphod Beeblebrox42
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Posted - 2009.07.13 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Therran Promitz I've played WoW for two years now, and EVE for about one. I love both, and it's hard to compare the two.
So I apologize on behalf of all WoW players who aren't idiots, those people who said those things about EVE are the ones who sit in the corner wearing the special hat.
the special hat __________________ Look, a forum alt! |
Hephaesteus
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.07.13 10:09:00 -
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Wow, I've missed the pvp in Eve's forums.
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Dracoknight
Griefers Anonymous Reality Unwoven
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Posted - 2009.07.13 10:11:00 -
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This thread made me ROFL...twice!
also wow is for kids who cant handle a real gaming community ____________________
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Evalyn Gerbil
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Posted - 2009.07.13 10:34:00 -
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I know sod-all about WoW. It doesn't interest me. Why? Because I cant fly a spaceship in it. I expect if I had wanted to swing a sword around and shoot spells from my fingertips I would have not enjoyed Eve much. All the rest is just details.
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